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Bombardier releases CSeries photos

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Bombardier has quietly released new pictures taken in early January showing that it has attached the tail and landing gear to the first CSeries.

Photos here

 

RJ

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That is a nice size jet. Tough market to penetrate though. The Turbo Props are making a comeback so the Dash 8 will continue to do well for them.

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I doubt they will see anything out of those windows. Who builds such things? :mad:

 

It's them Canadians. They are nuts. See proof.

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I doubt they will see anything out of those windows. Who builds such things? :mad:

 

It's them Canadians. They are nuts. See proof.

 

That was funny...Canada, the best nation in the world to live.

 

Here are your instructions:

 

http://youtu.be/HOm-15621bs

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I doubt they will see anything out of those windows. Who builds such things? :mad:

 

It's them Canadians. They are nuts. See proof.

 

:LMAO:

 

Nuts maybe, but when we build things, we use batteries that start in -50c and don't melt. :lol:

Hoping to ride that wild 787 someday....

 

 

 

RJ

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I guess you have a point. Only few parts are tougher than Canadian ones.

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with some duct tape, and spray some WD40 to be sure, and we'll be flying in no time....Problem solved :ph34r:

Indestructible combo!

 

And more on topic. Those C series are an interesting setup. Side stick controls, geared fan engines. Sounds nice and modern. They'll fight against the Embraers and Superjets, huh?

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I guess you have a point. Only few parts are tougher than Canadian ones.

 

Indestructible combo!

 

:LMAO:

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Oh yea, you just nailed it. Stick one of those bad boys on the 787, with some duct tape, and spray some WD40 to be sure, and we'll be flying in no time....Problem solved :ph34r:

 

:LMAO:

 

And whats wrong with a little duck tape and WD-40 eh? :rolleyes:

I got my engineering degree in Canada and "stick" to the flowchart...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RJ

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:LMAO:

 

And whats wrong with a little duck tape and WD-40 eh? :rolleyes:

I got my engineering degree in Canada and "stick" to the flowchart...

 

Yes and what the problem is clearly that Boeing has been laying off too many Cajuns (or Acadians) or good ole Know How, and this is why the 787 keeps on failing. those Americans just don't understand the other engineers that try and make things work....LOL

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That was funny...Canada, the best nation in the world to live.

Darn it, he never did explain how to keep rice from falling though the grill! :mad:

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They can't tell, it's part of the test! -_-

 

Geez, those pictures above. That one with the 'fixed' window. :O But the Pringles booster is great.

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They can't tell, it's part of the test! -_-

 

Geez, those pictures above. That one with the 'fixed' window. :O But the Pringles booster is great.

 

Tape is often used to prevent the sealant applied between the window pane and the frame form getting wet before it's fully set. The tape is just acting as a cover, it doesn't have a structural function. And just in case anyone here doesn't know, the tape you can see in the other pictures (apart from the Pringles tube one) is called speed tape. It's a bit like duct tape, only massively more expensive and FAA certified. It's used for temporary repairs of small damages. It's only used when allowed by the aircraft's Structural Repair Manual (SRM) which is written by engineers who carefully calculate what the largest damage is you can still safely repair in this way.

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Now explain the Pringles booster! And the thing with the rice! :P

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Now explain the Pringles booster! And the thing with the rice! :P

From the picture I can't tell if the Pringles booster is on a plane. If it is call the applicable regulatory agency and never ever fly with that airline. Unfortunately I went to university to the Netherlands, not Canada, so rice slipping through the grill was not covered :P.

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Both ATR with the new 600 series and Bombardier with the Q400 are dominating the Regional markets. There are many reasons for this, I will list a few of the key ones below.

 

1. On a typical flight the turboprops burn an average of 40% less fuel

 

2. The turboprops reach the same destination with 15 minutes of the regional jet.

 

3. Both the ATR-600 and Dash-8-Q400 feature state of the art flight decks same as the major airliners.

 

4. The turboprops are now a whole lot quieter, some even find them quieter than regional jets.

 

5. The turboprops can get into airports that the regional jets can't as their minimum takeoff distance is much shorter than any regional jet including the CRJ-200

 

6. The new digital entertainment system in the cabin is on par with many basic airliner jets, making them more appealing to consumers.

 

 

 

 

To hear just how much of an improvement the latest turboprop is look at this video below, you will find it hard to believe that its a turboprop:

 

 

 

This is what the new cabin looks like in the ATR-600:

 

 

 

This is the new flight deck of the ATR-600 (the Q400 is quite similar):

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You guys are forgetting the one thing that allows us to work all day..

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Speaking about the bbq....I live in "Northern" Alberta, it gets pretty cold here -40C right now actually. However my mom is South African, and in the winter on the rare days it is above -15 in our little suburb you might smell the smell of cooking steak or chicken on the bbq ( or "brai"). When our neighbors drive by and see this women all bundled up out on the back deck cooking her steak at -20 they always take a second look lol

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I have had several people in the industry tell me, for what it's worth, that regional jets are on their way out, to be replaced by turboprops. The problem with regional jets is they they come at the high purchase cost of a jet, they have the high maintenance cost of a jet, the high fuel consumption of a jet, and with the low seating capacity of a turboprop, so it's like you get the worst of both worlds...you get all the bad things and nothing good.

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I have had several people in the industry tell me, for what it's worth, that regional jets are on their way out, to be replaced by turboprops. The problem with regional jets is they they come at the high purchase cost of a jet, they have the high maintenance cost of a jet, the high fuel consumption of a jet, and with the low seating capacity of a turboprop, so it's like you get the worst of both worlds...you get all the bad things and nothing good.

 

Very true....The other consideration is the amount of time a jet gets from A to B on a short route compared to a Turboprop, the difference is too small to make those cost increased worth while.

 

A jet will takeoff faster then a turboprop and a jet will get up to altitude and cruise faster, but the advantages end there. A jet has no advantage over a turboprop when descending and arriving at an airport.

 

On short routes a jet usually saves about ~10 minutes of time for more then double the cost. Boston to Newark is a good example of a short route. Jet will takeoff and get to altitude faster but will have to descend without much cruise time and will get stuck in busy airspace like everyone else, so it may save about 5 to 10 minutes over all.

 

Consider the passenger will get stuck in things like traffic, parking, security, the waiting at the gate, the taxi time of the aircraft and waiting for a departure, 10 minutes saved in flight time isn't even noticeable to the passenger,

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The only downside turboprops have is their perceived poor safety record. The uneducated flying public seems to think that the planes with the propellor thingies crash all the time while the jets do not. I guess they see the prop as like more moving parts, or maybe the prop makes the aircraft look like something from the 50's to them.

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In reality the turboprop design especially by P&W is extremely efficient and reliable. Their PT6 engines are featured on thousands upon thousands of aircraft world wide, many of them have over 6000 hours runtime on them. However as you stated many people seem to think that a turboprop is antiquated and therefore not as safe as a turbofan.

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