February 15, 201313 yr Why would you need that information at all? I was thinking the same thing. Once the plane is in the air, the remaining runway is irrelevant. Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
February 15, 201313 yr if you're flying to SAS destinations, you can use this http://todc.sas.dk/todc/index.htm Good post 'kenz'. So I presume we also need to do a search for aircraft rego? Regards Geoff Bryce
February 16, 201313 yr RRW is 738 aircraft, its very nice tool. EDIT: Here is the same tool for vorgin atlantic (747, A330, A340). http://todc.sas.dk/t...irgin/index.htm [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
February 16, 201313 yr Good post 'kenz'. So I presume we also need to do a search for aircraft rego? Regards here you have the list NG http://www.airfleets...tive-b737ng.htm CL http://www.airfleets...active-b737.htm Kenz CHERIEF - IVAO 122933 - VATSIM 1349276 - GalleryLeonardo Maddog MD80 Procedures Handsheet for beginners
February 16, 201313 yr Why would you need that information at all? The issue is if you don't make it in to the air. More important is how much runway after V1, but the concenpt is making sure you have enough room to stop on the runway if you perform an RTO at V1. Eric Szczesniak
February 16, 201313 yr I was thinking the same thing. Once the plane is in the air, the remaining runway is irrelevant. They didn't say remaining runway once airbourne, they said runway remaining after V1. It's important to know as although you may be airbourne with plenty of runway available after V1 with two engines, it might not be sufficient if you're left with one following a failure. Jordan Forrest
February 16, 201313 yr They didn't say remaining runway once airbourne, they said runway remaining after V1. It's important to know as although you may be airbourne with plenty of runway available after V1 with two engines, it might not be sufficient if you're left with one following a failure. No they said "after Vr". [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
February 16, 201313 yr No they said "after Vr". Apologies you're absolutely right. However as v1 and vr can be very close the point still remains valid. Jordan Forrest
February 16, 201313 yr In pursuit of reality, anyone know how this part of planning is typically handled by real world commercial jet pilots? Are they doing it themselves, or is dispatch responsible for this? Simon
February 16, 201313 yr Yes but only problem PFPX : Navigraph is not supporting PFPX only works with Aerosoft !!!! http://www.topcatsim...php?topic=976.0 Robert That has now changed: https://www.facebook.com/topcatsim.flightsimsoft?ref=ts&fref=ts Gavin Barbara Over 10 years here and AVSIM is still my favourite FS site :-)
February 16, 201313 yr In pursuit of reality, anyone know how this part of planning is typically handled by real world commercial jet pilots? Are they doing it themselves, or is dispatch responsible for this? On the 777 pilots can do it themselves using the electronic flight bag. Jordan Forrest
February 16, 201313 yr Apologies you're absolutely right. However as v1 and vr can be very close the point still remains valid. I'm not sure how valid. On the NGX they are often close, but on heavier aircraft they can be quite far apart. However, runway remaining after Vr is important in terms of obstacle clearance. The more runway you have after lifting off (Vr is the closest guess for when that will be), the more time you have to climb over the flat runway before encountering obstacles. TOPCAT does take obstacle avoidance in to consideration for takeoff calculations. Eric Szczesniak Eric Szczesniak
February 16, 201313 yr Well, every sid has its own climb gradient, standard or nonstandard one, point of rotation should not be a problem as that gradient is to be applied for whole rwy. [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
February 17, 201313 yr Well, every sid has its own climb gradient, standard or nonstandard one, point of rotation should not be a problem as that gradient is to be applied for whole rwy. But not every runway has a SID. And even with a SID, the climb gradient doesn't necessarily account for fences, etc., that need to be cleared by the end of a runway. It applies for needed crossing restrictions to avoid traffic, mountains, etc. Eric Szczesniak
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