Hi All:

 

Bought a Saitek Pro Flight Yoke a month ago. Have been using it with the TQ with out a problem. Like it a lot. I thought if one throttle quadrant is good, two ought to be better. So far, I'm not convinced. I have spent about 8 hours so far reading my FSUIPC documentation (registered copy) and a tutorial on how to program different levers (axis) for a two engine aircraft. I have not been successful in being able to assign an individual engine to a specific lever on the TQ. No problem in assigning a single lever to operate BOTH engines. I would like to assign separate levers (2) for individual engines.

 

I know this is a labor intensive task trying to give instructions on how to do this properly. If any one is adventuresome and uses SKYPE, I'd really appreciate some assistance. Drop me a PM if you can help or if you can reference some easy printed instructions, please forward me the links.

 

Best regards,

 

Chris

I just went through this whole process myself, and it definitely took a few hours for me to come to grips with FSUIPC and complex axis assignment & calibration.. and I consider myself an advanced user.

 

The first thing I would do I delete FSUIPC.ini found in the FSX\modules folder(to clear out any wonky settings that may have gotten put in there while you were working on things), then restart FSX to make FSUIPC recreate the ini file.

 

Then close FSX and open up FSUIPC.ini and change AutoAssignLetters=No (under [JoyNames]) to =Yes. This helps FSUIPC differentiate between all your different devices, especially if you happen to plug them into different USB ports sometimes.

 

Now, the main thing that tripped me up was this: under the Axis Assignment tab, click Rescan a few times until NOTHING is showing up in the Axis box. Then move the first throttle lever you want to work on. It should detect and the In/Out values will change as you move the throttle to verify it's showing the correct axis. If it is, select the "Send direct to FSUIPC calibration" radio button from the three available, then in the first checkbox, select "Throttle1". Click the Rescan button a few times until it shows NOTHING again, then move on to your next throttle lever and do the same thing except select Throttle2.. repeat for your other levers with PropPitch1 etc or whatever you so choose.

 

At that point you can move into the Calibrate tab, scroll to page 3 of 11 (the seperate throttles section) and you should see the throttle axis values change as you move the levers you assigned.. if not, the axis did not get assigned properly to Throttle1/etc and you'll have to go back to step 1 to see what you did wrong.

 

Hope that helps... I could write 5 pages on how to work with FSUIPC but I have to get back to assembling a projector screen in the basement

It's not that hard, you have something called Throttle, Throttle1, throttle 2, Throttle 3 etc. Throttle 1 would be assigned to engine 1 so if you assign and axix to throttle 1 it would control engine 1, throttle 2 would be assigned to engine 2 and so on....

 

Hope that made some sense as i'm not the best to explain things...

Thanks Molleh for the tips. Every little bit helps so I will now take your instructions and we will see what happens. I will let you know.

 

Kaboki: Yes, I knew about the "throttle" variants as I did use them in programming a twin engine AC engines to one lever. Thanks.

 

Still open to a SKYPE conversation!

 

 

Best regards,

 

Chris

I have 2 and just use the FSX settings. One mistake I kept making was not making sure to select the right controller from the drop down while setting the axis.

 

The second throttle is not the Saitek Yoke. It is the throttle.

 

Finally figured out to select my trim wheel then select the axis and when the pop up came up to move the darn thing.

 

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do.?

Now, the main thing that tripped me up was this: under the Axis Assignment tab, click Rescan a few times until NOTHING is showing up in the Axis box. Then move the first throttle lever you want to work on. It should detect and the In/Out values will change as you move the throttle to verify it's showing the correct axis. If it is, select the "Send direct to FSUIPC calibration" radio button from the three available, then in the first checkbox, select "Throttle1". Click the Rescan button a few times until it shows NOTHING again, then move on to your next throttle lever and do the same thing except select Throttle2.. repeat for your other levers with PropPitch1 etc or whatever you so choose.

 

At that point you can move into the Calibrate tab, scroll to page 3 of 11 (the seperate throttles section) and you should see the throttle axis values change as you move the levers you assigned.. if not, the axis did not get assigned properly to Throttle1/etc and you'll have to go back to step 1 to see what you did wrong.

 

+1. I have a CH yoke and this is exactly right and should work out great. I think you'll love having those levers with a twin!

I have 2 and just use the FSX settings

 

Yes that works too, but the advantage with FSUIPC is that you can have aircraft specific settings and that you can't do with FSX default configurations. If your not meaning to use the FSX ssettings in FSUIPC, then I agree.

Also an easy program to use - LINDA : http://forum.avsim.net/forum/424-linda/

 

Had an easy UI.

 

I do not use it because I run Saitek Panels and need to use SPAD.

 

Btw I LOVE my 2nd throttle.

Kaboki: Yes, I knew about the "throttle" variants as I did use them in programming a twin engine AC engines to one lever. Thanks.

 

Oh, maybe I misusnderstood abit, I thought your problem whas howto assign an individual engine to a specific lever on the TQ . Molleh explained the same thing only a helluva alot better than me

Hi All:

 

Well, I implemented all your suggestions, but still no cigar. This really has me puzzled. I first started in FSX at Controls and made sure I was working with the proper TQ (either the Yoke or the 2nd TQ). I unplugged the 2nd TQ and configured the original TQ (PS2) to the default DC-3. I was able to get all 3 axis working, but not individually for each engine.

 

I noticed something strange here. When I first connected the Yoke system last week, FSUIPC recognized it as Joy #1. After connecting the new TQ, FSUIPC is recognizing the Yoke TQ as Joy #2. I would think the new TQ would be #2, but FSUIPC is assigning it Joy #0. Can anyone explain that?

 

Another strange observation. The Yoke TQ, as mounted on my desk, is showing the axis from left to right, as throttle (black), prop (blue) and mixture (red). On the 2nd TQ, mounted next to the Yoke TQ, from left to right, black is mixture, blue is prop and red is throttle. This surely doesn't seem the way it should be, or is it?

 

Would somebody be so kind as to map out the default DC-3 using both TQ's with the left to right setup of black-black, blue-blue and red-red, and send me the FSUIPC configuration for it? I could then compare/enter it into my FSUIPC cfg and see if it worked.

 

Any other suggestions gladly accepted.

 

Thanks

 

Chris

Hmm, just scan the axis lever you want to assign and then set it to the desired FSUIPC setting eg. throttle1 and just repeat these steps for the other levers. If you want the settings only to work for a spesific plane make sure you tick the aircraft spesific checkbox and save before scanning and assigning the axis lever.

How hard could that be, or am I missing something here..

I first started in FSX at Controls and made sure I was working with the proper TQ

 

If you have FSUIPC the best thing to do is shut off controls in FSX and use ONLY FSUIPC. FSX can get confused and remap them. FSUIPC keeps it straight. Use Axis Assignment and then the left half of the page to assign them to Throttle1, Throttle2 etc.

Chris, in the world of programming zero is always the first number

0,1,2,3 etc..

Just consider 0 as number 1 and go on from there.

Here is a complete pdf tutorial for fsuipc. Its for ch products for will work with Saitek yoke,pedal,quadrant setup.

http://fsuipc.simflight.com/beta/SIMSAMURAI+FSUIPC+TUTORIAL.pdf

 

It's rather easy once you get the hang of it. Hope that helps out.

Actually, in this case Throttle1 is for the 1st engine and Throttle2 is for the second. There isn't a Throttle 0, although there is a plain "Throttle". That is what you'd use if you wanted one lever to control both engines.

 

+1 on making sure you disable controllers in FSX. If the "enable controllers" box is checked, it could cause havok.

 

Not sure why it doesn't work, but do you have your 2nd TQ plugged into your yoke or into the computer? I have both TQ's plugged into the yoke, then the yoke plugged into the computer. May not make a difference, but you mentioned something about FSUIPC saying Joystick 2. I've never seen that.

 

--Don