April 23, 201313 yr Can anyone tell how is the process to setup correctly the VNAV descent? What point I need to choose to descent? What altitude? The first point with restriction? Sorry but I'm a NGX flyer! José Fco. Ibáñez /// i7 6700k (Delid) @ 4,6 Ghz /// Asrock Z170 OC Formula /// 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 /// GTX 1070 Founders Edition 8GB /// LG 27UD58 4K 27' // OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (X-Plane 10) & SAMSUNG 850 EVO SSD (P3D V3) /// Windows 10 Pro x64
April 23, 201313 yr Commercial Member I could use a bit of hand-holding when it comes to the VNAV procedure as well! I'm pretty new at using a FMC; unlike most of you who have NGX or equivalent experience, I'm graduating from GA / smaller turbo-props for the most part. Last night was my first real attempt at trying out VNAV. My previous flights have all been LNAV only, with the vertical profile being purely handled by me using ALT SEL and V/S mode. Once at cruise, I managed to get VNAV programmed in, but I wasn't quite sure as to what waypoint to pick, or what altitude to set. And then, while poring over the tutorial docs trying to see if I did it right, I passed the TOD marker without arming VNAV... :blush: I did manage to catch back up with VNAV and had it engage, which took me down to the altitude I had set, so maybe I almost did it right? The problem I then had was that I messed up entering my star in somehow, and didn't have an approach to arm on the NAV page. But I'm pretty sure that was a different mistake caused by a lack of knowledge about sids and stars and approaches and whatnot!! For consistency, I've been flying the same route on each flight, trying to match a real world DH8D Air Canada route: CYEG YEG V21 EPLUR DUNVO2 CYYC. Needless to say, I'm eagerly anticipating a proper tutorial flight!! Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
April 23, 201313 yr I got to thinking something... maybe im wrong, but I doubt a real aircraft has a sample tutorial flight when you buy it. Ive never bought a real aircraft as I was short a couple dollars, but when you buy an aircraft, to fly it you have to read all the systems manuals AND have gone through flight training. If you crash the aircraft you cant go blame the manufacturer if you didnt read up on the manufacturers recommended operations. So im not sure why we would expect AND demand a tutorial. We just dont like reading systems manuals. Myself included, but you gotta do what you gotta do and if you want to fly this bird properly, you gotta read. If you dont want to do that, then you have to wait for someone to kindly put out video tutorials. Just my 2 cents worth, and I recant anything about saying the tutorial is too simple. Just appreciate its a special aircraft to learn and in particular more manual flying. CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
April 23, 201313 yr This German video helped me very much, I do not speak German but just looking at the steps he used, I now know how to properly fly. Still am stumped with VNAV, something about my altitude in the FMS staying at one of the earlier SID altitudes so it doesn't calculate right. Here is the video, part 1 and part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKSEt4M6gA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIlNmPSfJw Thanks for this! Helped immensely. Dylan Charles "The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."
April 23, 201313 yr Commercial Member We just dont like reading systems manuals. Out of a desire to learn the FMC a bit better, I did a bit of searching and found a copy of the Universal manual online. 500 and some pages. Not exactly fun reading, but a good example of what would be required to actually learn the real thing! Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
April 23, 201313 yr I'm sure it's a great video, if only the guy had explained things a little faster!!! It helped a bit. He was very specific in his description that it was a basic FMC tutorial of the FPL page only. But I agree with you, though. You need to have a basic understanding of FMC usage prior to looking at this vid. Dylan Charles "The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."
April 23, 201313 yr Out of a desire to learn the FMC a bit better, I did a bit of searching and found a copy of the Universal manual online. 500 and some pages. Not exactly fun reading, but a good example of what would be required to actually learn the real thing! Same here - both a training manual and a reference manual... Got them loaded up on my 10" tablet and enjoying the read.. :rolleyes: Bert
April 23, 201313 yr Can you post the link to this manual? José Fco. Ibáñez /// i7 6700k (Delid) @ 4,6 Ghz /// Asrock Z170 OC Formula /// 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 /// GTX 1070 Founders Edition 8GB /// LG 27UD58 4K 27' // OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (X-Plane 10) & SAMSUNG 850 EVO SSD (P3D V3) /// Windows 10 Pro x64
April 23, 201313 yr Commercial Member Can you post the link to this manual? http://www.igs.net/~kiddbatt/DOCS/unsbs/FMS_Operators_manual.pdf Pretty sure this was the one I found, but there was probably others. Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
April 23, 201313 yr http://www.igs.net/~kiddbatt/DOCS/unsbs/FMS_Operators_manual.pdf Pretty sure this was the one I found, but there was probably others. http://www.igs.net/~kiddbatt/DOCS/unsbs/UNS_OTM_2009.pdf Bert
April 23, 201313 yr Commercial Member http://www.igs.net/~...NS_OTM_2009.pdf Nice, that one is much more user friendly than the one I linked. Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
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