April 27, 201313 yr There seems to be a lot of nice twin engine TurboProps either available now or in the works. My problem though is that I use a stick and single throttle quadrant. I lot of the ground manuver capability seems to be related to splitting the throttles. So... I'm in the market for an addon with the most realistic FDE and engine response in a single engine GA TurboProp. Regards, Slim
April 27, 201313 yr There aren't many that I'm aware of. The only one I own is Carenado's P46T Malibu JetProp conversion, and I actually quite like it. It's not perfect, but within the limits of what FSX allows, and keeping in mind that a few things didn't get modeled (like proper response when the ice door is opened) I think it's pretty good and I've been strangely attracted to the plane ever since picking it up. Scott
April 27, 201313 yr Author That is an aircraft I've been interested in. I've shied away from Carenado purchases so far as most of the posts I've read (with the exception of their Skymaster) seem to indicate that they are better with eye candy than FDE realism. Slim
April 27, 201313 yr I've shied away from Carenado purchases so far as most of the posts I've read (with the exception of their Skymaster) seem to indicate that they are better with eye candy than FDE realism. Most (all?) of their later FDE's have been done by Bernt Stolle (and a few older ones reworked by him) and are very good. Systems are still hit or miss, and the more complex the aircraft, the more likely there are to be missing pieces. In the case of the JetProp, there are certainly some things that aren't perfect, and there are a few mods you'll want to check on from the Malibu forum, but on balance it's a good plane. Like many of Carenado's newer planes, I think it could border on being great if they'd fix/implement that last 5%. Scott
April 27, 201313 yr Not much out there yet with deep systems. Marcel Felde is working on a PC-6 over at Aerosoft, tho it might still be a ways out. Aerosoft has done some great turboprop modeling. Cheers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
April 27, 201313 yr Author Carenado's c337 actually works well with one throttle Hadn't thought of that. With centerline thrust I guess it wouldn't matter. BAT-21 here I come! Marcel Felde is working on a PC-6 I love the PC-6. A real workhorse. I have the FSD one and I'm anxiously awaiting Marcel's but I was really thinking more cabin class 230knot cruise type of situation. Slim
April 27, 201313 yr Hadn't thought of that. With centerline thrust I guess it wouldn't matter. Well, doesn't matter nearly as much, anyway. Proper takeoff procedures for the 337 call for leading with the rear engine and then following with the front - this due to the number of incidents with pilots not realizing the rear engine was not running. BTW, the 337 is my favorite piston GA plane. Unique, slightly funky, great VC visibility and quite well done. With the centerline thrust it's easy to fly single engine as well - just find a place to land as its performance on one is pretty bad. :-) Scott
April 27, 201313 yr As Scott mentions, the 337 is a piston, not a turbine. Great airplane, though. I don't have 337 time but I've got 182 time and flies like a heavier faster version of that...very real. Kicked around by bumps...stable...great views. Be the Danny Glover. BTW, I can't say I'm really aware of a twin that *needs* split throttles (cept, maybe engine out procedures?). It may be slightly more interesting with split throttles but that would be it. The best GA Twin turbine IMO is the RealAir Turbine Duke. I can't not fly it. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
April 27, 201313 yr Well if you want a fast plane for your throttle set up, if you don't mind the thrill of properly managing a big V-12 instead of a turboprop, the Accusimmed A2A Civil P-51 is tops. It is challenging to learn but very rewarding once mastered. CHeers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
April 27, 201313 yr The Carenado TBM will be out soon. Not sure if the G1000 will be any good but at least it will be pretty. There is also the F1 PC-12. Chris Magnus HR Manager Air Jamaica Virtual Airlines and Cargo (http://www.airjamaicavirtualairlinesandcargo.org)
April 27, 201313 yr Nobody mentioned the RealAir Legacy...... Great airplane but he's asking about a turbine. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
April 27, 201313 yr PILATUS PC-12 by Flight 1 is a super aircraft. It is fast, nice to look at, and has all the modern instruments that make it a great flyer. Neal Howard
April 27, 201313 yr Author PILATUS PC-12 by Flight 1 is a super aircraft. I've been intrigued by the R/W PC-12 but I was afraid the Flight 1 version was getting a little long in the tooth by now. BTW, I can't say I'm really aware of a twin that *needs* split throttles I fly the MilViz Baron as well as the BT-67, Milton's Twin Beeches and Howard 500 and it seems that ground handling would be greatly facilitated by splitting the throttles. Isn't that how you R/W Multi rated pilots do it?
April 27, 201313 yr I use a Saitek standard 3 lever quadrant. I use FSUIPC for my throttle assignments. For twins I use Throttle/prop levers for Engine 1/2. Then depending if turbine or piston, I use the mixture lever for either both prop pitch or both mixture.(which ever I would use most frequently for that particular aircraft) Then I use one of the rocker switches on the throttle quadrant for the other. It isn't a perfect setup, but it works fine. Cheers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
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