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Hi all,

 

Would like to ask you all. I'm just finished training Cessna. but I'm going to Commerical airliner.W which one should i go first? airbus or Boeing ? And what is difference of that?

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Well, first of all: There is no such thing as a PMDG Airbus (you're on the PMDG forum, Owen!) ...

 

Airbus has a range from older types (less automation) to more recent ones (high automation).

And so does Boeing.

 

Furthermore there are heavy airliners from both manufacturers and smaller ones.

 

Some models are closer to the 'steam-gauge' type, others are 'glass-cockpit'.

 

So, let's narrow things a bit:

 

Owen, what will be your kind of flying: commuting/medium range/long-distance, ...

 

Any more details of what features you'd like to see, any systems you'd like to see working or you'd want to operate yourself?

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Owen,

 

Which do you prefer in real life.. That will fulfill you the most.

 

 

Alex

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If we are talking about real world career, I suggest Airbus due to cockpit commonalities, it will be easier (less training hours required) for you to switch from 318 to 346 passing by the whole family.

 

However here are other questions to help you in your decision:

1. where are you planning to work?

2. what are the fleets of your national/local carrier(s)?

3. are you targeting a Boeing dominant airline, or an Airbus one?

4. Some airlines have their own local academies and/or provide scholarships for their newly fresh recruits (both MEA and SVA do this), so ask about the requirements.

5. and Finally as Oliver and Alex mentioned, what do you prefer?

 

if sim world, go to ngx.

 

Good luck

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Do you have the luxury of being to choose aircraft type with your knew job. Surely getting the job as airline pilot is the main aim and you will be trained on whatever type of aircraft the airline requires? Maybe I'm wrong?

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Are we talking real life, or Flight Simulator here?

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Thought real life. If it sim question then I would fly the one you like most, preferably the NGX, as then this thread might not get closed for being OT!

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I didn't even know you could decide yourself what aircraft to fly? I always thought you get a specific training for a specific aircraft and you work your way up slowly, but the airline decides which aircraft you fly. But, that's how I thought it worked...

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Hi Olli4740,

Oh. You mean some airbus are closer to the 'steam gauge' type and glass cockpit'? I would fly three of them.but will seldom to fly long distance. Yeah.sure. Could you provide me better. I'm pleasured to see you again

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I think he's talking about the sim.  There's no way you'd transition directly from Cessnas to the airlines.  You'd need time in a complex aircraft first, along with multi-engine.  While both could be Cessnas (like a C177RG, and a C310), the dominant aircraft to meet those requirements are the Piper Arrow and Seminole (at least in the States).  Plus, the terminology is all wrong.  Nobody transitioning to real world airlines would say I'm "finished training Cessna."

 

As for simming, though, it's up to you.  I personally just chose more in-depth simulations of aircraft over the simplified versions.  There used to be a really good A300/310 series out there, but it was for FS9.

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well,my first wasnt a boeing or airbus;it was fokker F100.by my experience,starting from a narrow airbus(A320)is the best choice,because of cockpit design,level of automation,airlines variaty and so on.but there are some weak points that many many boeing pilots have problem with:SideStick&Fly-By-Wire,AutoThrust

on the other hand,737NG would be great choice for starting.i suggest not going for wide bodies,because 1-airlines dont want a 0km widebody F/O; 2-not good for starting(some handling problems,long range cruise causes headackes similar to migrane for newbies and . . .)

BuT,remember!no one never knows you more than yourself! Attend to your prefer,consider airlines needings,ranges,trainings COST,your types flights and credits,And Money!(every one(including myself!)at the begining say that they just fly for their intrest on aviation,but money will become Very important after about 5 years(i dont say it will become instead of liking))

Hope you the best choices!

Regards

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Geez Lousie....is 'skool' out for summer already...or was this thread opened after 'skool' tipped out this arvo'?

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arvo'

 

...and then I learned a new term from oz.

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I'd suggest a small Airbus then. Forget about the A330 and the A340, they are long-range and heavy.

 

In the A318/319/320/321 sector don't fall for older releases (forget the Wilco/Feelthere Airbus series).

 

The Aerosoft Airbus X A320/321 (formerly named 'extended' = AXE) I do recommend (see one of the banners in my signature!).

 

There's another small Airbus around by BBS (BlackBoxSimulation). Unfortunately I can't comment on it, since I don't own it.

 

EDIT: BTW, you use the FSX sim, don't you?

 

(Robert, Ryan, sorry for this ...  ^_^ )

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Hi SVA1181,

 

Thanks,you have provided me some of questions for me. I think I would going to airbus for the real career. If sim world. ngx is better than airbus? but I'll training in FSX too



Hi Helfire,

 

Nope. getting the job as airline pilot is my main aim. But I would like to training in FSX as well. It's such a great tools for training and etc.

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Talking of realistically modeling (narrow-body) jet airliners in FSX - in order to get closer to real world operations - the PMDG 737 NGX is about the best in the competition. To get the same fidelity and system depth with an Airbus you'll have to wait until the Airbus by FlightSimLabs is out. (No release date ...)

 

The PMDG Boeing 737 NGX is out already, fully developed, latest servicepack included, highly praised - just waiting for you to take the controls ...

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Hi KriVa,

 

Better talking Flight Simulator , Do you have any experience to share with me ?



Hi Hellfire again,

 

The NGX is very nice than Airbus when fly in sim?



Hi Arjen,

 

Thanks a lot. I should have a decision to make a way out. You are a pilot ?

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Hi Scandinavian13,

 

Yes, you're right, I'm talking Sim , but it's ok for me. I have flown before it in Piper as well. it's enough for me to take.

For sim. but most of the people saying that NGX is better for sim. I don't even know that. Do you know that?

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SIMULATOR????????!!!!!! Oh,god no,are you kidding me?!i really thought he's talkin' about real life!

 

Well,i was 6 when i started to flight with MicrosoftFlight Simulator 2000.i started with 737-400 with my father's help.

If youre growing academic in FSX,i think start with Majestic Dash-8 Q400,or PMDG J41(i think you'll be more comfortable with props).dont go for airbus,because there's no any realastic airbus for FS.so after those props,F100 is a great choice.nice,easy,light,automated and very comfortable!awesome for starting jets!then go for 757 or NGX,or maybe wait for FSL A320.after some regional flights and giving yourself some emergencies,go for MD-11 or 747.after some long ranges,T7 is a great choice.

At the end of all,you'll be intrested in light aircrafts you started with!i promise you.so don't rush.enjoy every steps you take.no needing for speed!

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Hi SVA1181,

 

Thanks,you have provided me some of questions for me. I think I would going to airbus for the real career. If sim world. ngx is better than airbus? but I'll training in FSX too

 

You are welcome Owen, The best medium range airliner for FSX is now the PMDG NGX, it simulates 95% of the real one (as per PMDG). You can find on youtube some clips (tutorials) made by a real world 737 copilot, here is his channel https://www.youtube.com/user/skysurfer007/videos  .

 

No airbus of same quality is now available, you will have to wait for the Flighsim labs to release their bird. However as Oliver mentioned you can try the Aerosoft Airbus X, it not as complete as the NGX but you will learn a lot from it.

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you can try the Aerosoft Airbus X, it not as complete as the NGX.

With all of my respect,i prefer some napkins to Airbus X or Airbus X Extended

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Hi Farhadi,

 

I'll reply you tomorrow, because today i'm so busy.sorry about that. I'm going to sleep soon.good night

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Without relating respect to napkins:   rolleyes.gif

 

Owen, you will have to make up your mind:

 

- If it's all about Airbus, you're fond of, here and now, standard operations only, the Aerosoft Airbus (AXE/AAX) can be considered.

- If it has to be a high-class top-notch close-to-real-world Airbus, you'll have to wait for the FSL Airbus to be released.

- If it's about flightsimming as closely as possible to realworld flying (same category/size of aircraft), your choice could (should!) be the Boeing 737 NG(X) by PMDG.

 

 

The decision is yours ...

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Hi Farhadi,

 

I'll reply you tomorrow, because today i'm so busy.sorry about that. I'm going to sleep soon.good night

It's all ok owen,go sleep and PM me whenever you want!(PM please,thanks!)

i'm too tired too,so goodnight everybody here

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