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I7 2700K and GTX 580 vs I7 4770K and GTX Titan

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Hello i can't decide if its worth upgrading from my current I7 2700k at 5GHZ and GTX 580 to the new I7 4770k and the GTX Titan or shall i wait for Ivy Bridge Extreme or even Haswell Extreme thanks. 

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If it's just for FSX, you'd have to be close to insane to switch out a perfectly fine 5GHz setup, which is running stable, for a completely new one, which probably won't even go as high.

In other games, the TITAN will make quite a huge difference vs the GTX580. In FSX, not so much.

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If it's just for FSX, you'd have to be close to insane to switch out a perfectly fine 5GHz setup, which is running stable, for a completely new one, which probably won't even go as high.

In other games, the TITAN will make quite a huge difference vs the GTX580. In FSX, not so much.

He dont need more than 4.2 ghz with good mems to outperform a 5ghz 2700k

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Sure, but I wasn't talking about outperforming, I'm talking about bang for buck.

While the change from 3.4 to 4.2 GHz is VERY noticeable, the change from 4.2 to 5.0 is far, far less so.

And if you put some decent memory on the 2700k, it'll still give the 4770k a run for it's money. ;-)

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Been watching these 4770k threads with interest. As far as I can see from westman's post in the FSMark thread 4.7Ghz gives around 55fps. My 2700K probably gives not far short of 50fps at 4.9Ghz. You could say that the 10% is worth it but first of all you have to risk buying a chip that may never reach 4.7Ghz and even if you do you seem to need to move to water to do it.

 

Not worth it in my view.

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Sure, but I wasn't talking about outperforming, I'm talking about bang for buck.

While the change from 3.4 to 4.2 GHz is VERY noticeable, the change from 4.2 to 5.0 is far, far less so.

And if you put some decent memory on the 2700k, it'll still give the 4770k a run for it's money. ;-)

Bang for buck ;0k

 

3.4 - 5.0 no difference scale the same if the system is properly OC:ed

 

You can put in the best memorys you can find, and its way after.

 

You can read the FSMark11 tread it confirm it , search after the fastest 2700k check memspeed and timings and clock

 

Hasse

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Oh, we're talking about silly numbers showing up, and not ACTUAL performance? In that case, I'm out.

And no, the scaling with increase in CPU performance in FSX most certainly does not happen on a linear basis.

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Been watching these 4770k threads with interest. As far as I can see from westman's post in the FSMark thread 4.7Ghz gives around 55fps. My 2700K probably gives not far short of 50fps at 4.9Ghz. You could say that the 10% is worth it but first of all you have to risk buying a chip that may never reach 4.7Ghz and even if you do you seem to need to move to water to do it.

 

Not worth it in my view.

Its hard to justfy a uppgrade from 2700k to a 4770k but with 3x view setup it can be worth it. honest my uppgrade from 2700k to 3770k was a very small gain "not worth it".

 

If you get a chip that do 4.6 its on the edge but 4770k run smoother ( subjective).

 

Video card if we see to what you get in fps i should uppgrade the cpu first then the gpu

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Right thanks for your help i think im going to just upgrade the GPU to the GTX Titan and leave the rest my motherboard is an Asus Z77 Sabertooth i got 8GB of Corsair memory at 2133 MHZ but i set it to 1600 MHZ i want to be able to fly at Heathrow with most settings on max.

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My 2700K probably gives not far short of 50fps at 4.9Ghz

 

Not even close... I ran mine in FSMark11 and got right around 41-42. 

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There must be something wrong with your system or test set up. A significant number of the 2600k/2700k tests listed https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApeEiOXGIvXidG9rNUdkSi13a09fb0JPQU5CektEelE#gid=0 are in the 46 to 48 range. Possibly the 660ti not strong enough?

 

 

No there is nothing wrong with my setup. 

 

JohnFromCO 43.7 | i5-2500k | 4.70 | GTX 680 - My results were very similar to this. 

 

The 660Ti is a perfectly adequate card and has no problem with FSX. In fact, my tests showed it to be decently faster than my older GTX580 with SGSS. 

 

 

And no, the scaling with increase in CPU performance in FSX most certainly does not happen on a linear basis.

 

 

There have been plenty of tests that have shown otherwise. 100MHZ increases usually yeild 1 FPS in CPU demanding scenarios. 

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No Point in going from a 2700K 5.0Gz to the IB or Haswell.

 

The card, if you don't have anything better than GTX580 you could look at the GTX770 or the GTX780.

 

If you don't have SSDs, a an SSD or two and move your FSX and sceneries to them.

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BenCap: "The 660Ti is a perfectly adequate card and has no problem with FSX. In fact, my tests showed it to be decently faster than my older GTX580 with SGSS. "

 

Bull, read here and be more informed:

 

"What you should never do is run a 'Ti" video card or a card with a 550/560/660 tag with such processors and clock speeds."

 

http://www.simforums.com/forums/selecting-a-graphic-card-from-specifications_topic46046.html

 

It´s a disgrace all the stupid advise which goes totally unchallenged here on the worlds largest FSX forum, people really need to wake up, thank you.

 

+1

 

Nick as a PHD in Physic and Engineering..."kinda" hard to challenge ...lol

 

 

Hello i can't decide if its worth upgrading from my current I7 2700k at 5GHZ and GTX 580 to the new I7 4770k and the GTX Titan or shall i wait for Ivy Bridge Extreme or even Haswell Extreme thanks. 

 

It's a no brainer... just make sure you get high speed memory (2400Mhz +) the higher the better.

 

  http://www.simforums.com/forums/haswell-48ghz-on-air-can-it-be-done_topic46180.html

 

The new one ( i7-4960X) will be harder to play with (de-lidded) as they will use solders and not paste....can be done but you better know what you'r doing....

 

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php/305405

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Bull, read here and be more informed:
 
"What you should never do is run a 'Ti" video card or a card with a 550/560/660 tag with such processors and clock speeds."
 
http://www.simforums...topic46046.html
 
It´s a disgrace all the stupid advise which goes totally unchallenged here on the worlds largest FSX forum, people really need to wake up, thank you.

 

This post just made my day. :lol: 

 

I took the time to run tests for myself and others alike who were interested in the card. 

 

You took the time to take a spoon feeding from someone else's work then attempt to tell me I don't know what I am talking about? ^_^ 

 

I think it is you who needs to be 'wake up' because you are the one who has done nothing but be a blatant troll on an internet forum.

 

LOL - TI card is crap - over and out.

 

Oh really? Where are your tests and research? 

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Bentj

 

Single warning, given once.

 

Don't start out here this way. There are a lot of people here with a history as illustrious as Nick's who are just as, or more knowledgeable. Don't come in here acting like you have a Nick chip on your shoulder or upon the first complaint from a core member who is sober,  you will be out of here, and believe me our new ban machine won't let you back in under any name.  I don't care what you think of Ben Cap or his advice. Treat him and everyone else with respect or you will have a miserably short lifespan here.

 

So lets start this over.

 

RESET

 

Bentj

 

Welcome to Avsim. We enjoy quite a cult like following in on all things FS hardware in our hardware forums. Not only do we have, or have had, all the hot experts, we are training the next generation to replace them. We decided we won't feed the star studded fame game here anymore because the bigger the ego, the hungrier it gets, and the bigger it's appetite controls everyone. 

 

We prefer the team approach. If you join the community and show a bit of respect, you will perhaps be here long enough to earn some yourself. Talking about respect, how about an apology for the way you started and introduce yourself properly and tell us a bit about yourself, your rig, and what you would like to learn. 

 

You have not yet earned the right to bite on site like my old friend Alain.

 

Kind regards,

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"Welcome to Avsim. We enjoy quite a cult like following in on all things FS hardware in our hardware forums. Not only do we have, or have had, all the hot experts, we are training the next generation to replace them. We decided we won't feed the star studded fame game here anymore because the bigger the ego, the hungrier it gets, and the bigger it's appetite controls everyone. "

 

Edited by Spiritflyer to remove extremely offensive descriptions about himself that turned his face as red as this print!

 

You may ban me now!

Goodbye.

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You have not yet earned the right to bite on site like my old friend Alain.

 

Kind regards,

 

Check's in the mail...lol

 

 

"Welcome to Avsim. We enjoy quite a cult like following in on all things FS hardware in our hardware forums. Not only do we have, or have had, all the hot experts, we are training the next generation to replace them. We decided we won't feed the star studded fame game here anymore because the bigger the ego, the hungrier it gets, and the bigger it's appetite controls everyone. "

 

Edited by Spiritflyer to remove extremely offensive descriptions about himself that turned his face as red as this print!

 

Thank you,

 

You may ban me now!

 

Pffff, now that was wayyyy over the top.

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