August 9, 201312 yr I'm writing this topic for a member who already started one but in french, so he asked if I could post another one but in english. He bought Mega scenery earth (almost the entire country) and started up at an airport, and got the out of mem error. He doesnt get this with other photo scenery such as France VFR ect. My first advice was to have him defrag but he did that already so I asked him about his tweaks and said he had "Himemfix=1 et bufferpools=0" so I had him change his BP settings to =50000000 (read it in a forum and worked for me). His specs: I4770 sur CM Gigabyte, 32 Go RAM, Nvidia 680 GTX, dernier pilotes à jour, Win 7 X64 Thanks for helping out
August 9, 201312 yr He probably shouldn't activate every state he has, because even if you don't fly there, it leaves some memory footprint. Bufferpools tweak doesn't have anything to do with OOM's as far as I can tell, it just tells FSX to either buffer frames first or send them directly to the graphics card. If he has a higher LOD_RADIUS value, it might help to lower that, or tell him to make the switch to DX10. There is an extensive How-to in the DX10 subsection on the AVSim forums. DX10 has better memory handling and allows for more add-ons to be active. Mark
August 9, 201312 yr Author He probably shouldn't activate every state he has, because even if you don't fly there, it leaves some memory footprint. Bufferpools tweak doesn't have anything to do with OOM's as far as I can tell, it just tells FSX to either buffer frames first or send them directly to the graphics card. If he has a higher LOD_RADIUS value, it might help to lower that, or tell him to make the switch to DX10. There is an extensive How-to in the DX10 subsection on the AVSim forums. DX10 has better memory handling and allows for more add-ons to be active. Thanks ill pass on the message. btw, I know BP has nothing to do with OOMs however I did read in a forum post to switch the usepools number and it worked, so kinda strange.
August 9, 201312 yr Mark is correct. You will definitely get an OOM if all MSE V2 scenery is activated. He should download and run SceneryConfigEditor and activate only the scenery he will be flying over (he should not deactivate default scenery). Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
August 9, 201312 yr This 4 steps should solve OOM errors: 1.apply microsoft patch to increase heap limitation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246 2.Like Jim said, download SceneryConfigEditor and every time before you start FSX - use it to enable only scenery which will be used for next flight. That means 2-3 airports and maximum 2 continents. Disable all other scenery, especially photoscenery and other payware scenery 3.in fsx.CFG, set TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD to maximum 2048, never above 4.If you use REX, in REX options select DXT optimized textures where you can P.S.In Windows 7 / 64bit, don't change default paging file, leave it to system managed Zeljko Budovic
August 9, 201312 yr Set bufferpools to 0 and i got a better result. Everyone has different results of course. LOD Radius of 6.5 works great too.
August 10, 201312 yr Mark is correct. You will definitely get an OOM if all MSE V2 scenery is activated. He should download and run SceneryConfigEditor and activate only the scenery he will be flying over (he should not deactivate default scenery). Best regards, Jim "SceneryConfigEditor" +1 ZORAN
August 10, 201312 yr Commercial Member Never got an OOM with MSE and I have all states enabled and LOD-RADIUS on 8.0 too! My system is not as slick either. i5 at 3.6Ghz, 16Gb RAM GTX670 card. What other add-ons does he have loaded at the same time? DeanManager - PC Aviator AustraliaRetailing Sim DVD Software, Downloads, Hardware and Accessories
August 10, 201312 yr This 4 steps should solve OOM errors: 1.apply microsoft patch to increase heap limitation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947246 2.Like Jim said, download SceneryConfigEditor and every time before you start FSX - use it to enable only scenery which will be used for next flight. That means 2-3 airports and maximum 2 continents. Disable all other scenery, especially photoscenery and other payware scenery 3.in fsx.CFG, set TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD to maximum 2048, never above 4.If you use REX, in REX options select DXT optimized textures where you can P.S.In Windows 7 / 64bit, don't change default paging file, leave it to system managed agreed. I have most mega scenery earth. and if I set the texture_max_load to 4096 it will nearly always oom. If I keep it at 2048 then it will normally be ok.
August 10, 201312 yr Never got an OOM with MSE and I have all states enabled and LOD-RADIUS on 8.0 too! My system is not as slick either. i5 at 3.6Ghz, 16Gb RAM GTX670 card. What other add-ons does he have loaded at the same time? Yikes! I have a hard time believing this. How many States do you have installed? You can have 10-20 installed and FSX will run okay but not all of the States enabled. I can replicate my problem 100% of the time with just 34 States enabled (only MSE V2 States are enabled plus a commercial departing/arriving airport). I have my settings set exactly as recommended by the MegaSceneryEarth team. Can you tell us how many States you have enabled? I have seen in past posts you have made that you install a MSEV2 product when there is a problem to see if you can find a solution. I really, really am having a hard time believing your post. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
August 12, 201312 yr Commercial Member Yikes! I have a hard time believing this. How many States do you have installed? You can have 10-20 installed and FSX will run okay but not all of the States enabled. I can replicate my problem 100% of the time with just 34 States enabled (only MSE V2 States are enabled plus a commercial departing/arriving airport). I have my settings set exactly as recommended by the MegaSceneryEarth team. Can you tell us how many States you have enabled? I have seen in past posts you have made that you install a MSEV2 product when there is a problem to see if you can find a solution. I really, really am having a hard time believing your post. Best regards, Jim I have had them all installed at once. At the moment I have 40 there. Note these are installed over a couple of different drives (perhaps that makes a difference?) When are you getting OOM errors? Is it just random or when you cross over a state border? Do you get any particular error message or log, and if so, what are the log details? DeanManager - PC Aviator AustraliaRetailing Sim DVD Software, Downloads, Hardware and Accessories
August 13, 201312 yr My first advice was to have him defrag but he did that already so I asked him about his tweaks and said he had "Himemfix=1 et bufferpools=0" so I had him change his BP settings to =50000000 (read it in a forum and worked for me). For the i7 4770 configuration, I like the following link - http://www.simforums.com/forums/gtx-780-settings-discussion-haswell-revealed_topic46112_page1.html. Please note the various recommended Bufferpool settings. Best regards, Jim When are you getting OOM errors? Is it just random or when you cross over a state border? Do you get any particular error message or log, and if so, what are the log details? I consider myself a computer expert but I will reactivate every MSE scenery and post the error message (doesn't an OOM mean you have run out of memory? Is there another message that says you have run out of memory?). Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
August 13, 201312 yr When are you getting OOM errors? Is it just random or when you cross over a state border? Do you get any particular error message or log, and if so, what are the log details? Activated all MSE States (40). Took about 15 minutes for fsx to load! No OOM but here is fsuipc.log showing free memory is very low. I quit before any CTD. As you can see my FPS were actually quite good. I loaded FSDT KORD for a flight to KSTL. Default weather loaded in the PMDG 737NGX. If I do not activate all the MSE Scenery and activate only what I will be using for a particular flight, absolutely no problems. My fsx settings are set as recommended by the MSE developers. No tweaks. My display driver settings are at the default for FSX. ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.90 by Pete Dowson *********Running inside FSX on Windows 7Module base=6A640000User Name="jimyoung"User Addr="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"FSUIPC4 Key is providedWIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 141 System time = 13/08/2013 08:42:32 141 FLT path = "C:\Users\Jim\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 422 Trying to connect to SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 ... 437 FS path = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\" 515 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 515 SIM1 Frictions access gained 515 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 515 G3D.DLL fix attempt installed ok 515 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 515 Trying to use SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07 1404 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 1404 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1404 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1420 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT 1420 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR 24867 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-700NGX WL\B737-700WL.AIR 451701 System time = 13/08/2013 08:50:03, Simulator time = 07:42:33 (12:42Z) 451701 Aircraft="Boeing 737-7H4NGX Southwest Airlines (Nevada One) Winglets" 453059 Starting everything now ... 453059 AES Link established 874901 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 889861 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 946849 AES version 2.30 active at airport KORD (default vehicles deleted) 1050324 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 164 secs = 19.5 fps 1192363 C:\Users\Jim\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR KORD-KSTL.PLN 1291096 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 98 secs = 20.1 fps 1684328 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 260 secs = 24.9 fps 1689257 Weather Mode now = Real World 1877722 **** WARNING! 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Free memory is very low! 2898749 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 2903132 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1208 secs = 23.3 fps 2911775 System time = 13/08/2013 09:31:03, Simulator time = 08:09:55 (13:09Z) 2911775 *** FSUIPC log file being closedAverage frame rate for running time of 1757 secs = 23.0 fpsG3D fix: Passes 19654, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 6, Separate instances 2Memory managed: 790 Allocs, 790 Freed********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! 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August 13, 201312 yr Commercial Member Hmmm, hard to tell much from that, apart from it reporting your free memory as low. What is the cause? Does it give you this same or similar repeating low memory messages without the NGX aircraft selected? Say with a default plane? And then what about with a default plane, and only a few MSE states activated? Just trying to narrow the possibilities here using a scientific method DeanManager - PC Aviator AustraliaRetailing Sim DVD Software, Downloads, Hardware and Accessories
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