ok guys here is the delima: I want to do long haul flights but if I do not want to give up ATC I will have to sit on a screen for 5 hrs awnsering freq changes and messeges. So any help on how to fix that problem? I have a new PMDG 747 that I REALLY want to fly

YES!

Tune the frequency but DO NOT CONTACT THE CONTROLLER.

 

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ok but when I get back and contact the controller he will be usefull right?

This may not be the answer your looking for but I fly with Radar Contact and hand the reigns to the copilot who manages the frequency changes until I get closer. RC4 is much better at ATC anyway.   

ok but when I get back and contact the controller he will be usefull right?

Yes it will, but be ware The first instructions may be vectoring instructions that are behind you, this is just FSX's way of keeping up, DO NOT answer these. If you do you'll be stuck with it. It will continue to nag you (About 3-5 times) then finally give you the correct vector with a resume normal navigation instruction. This one answer, then you should be good to go!!! Other option as stated are 3rd party ATC programs like Radar Contact, or PFE. (I use PFE). These are payware, but are more realistic then default. Both have options to turn over control of the radio to a virtual First Officer. You can take it back after you finish the acceleration, and you shouldn't miss a beat.

 

 

The first instructions may be vectoring instructions that are behind you, this is just FSX's way of keeping up, DO NOT answer these.

I agree with the first part, but the second part is wrong IIRC: You will need to answer the ATC instructions - otherwise your IFR flight plan will be cancelled - but do not follow the instructions. Just continue your route, ATC will ask you a few times to expedite your course and altitude corrections, but at some point FSX will recognize that you're on the planned track, just further one than it initially thought, and you'll get the usual approach instructions.

I HATE WHEN THEY DO THAT LOL! they made my frankfurt flight almost an hour late!

are their any good tuturiols for PFE and if so can I have a link? also, can you change the voices?

What has been said is correct about the default ATC but let me clarify. When you make and IFR flight plan you will set a maximum altitude when you make the plan. When the ATC gives you the direction to ascend to that maximum altitude that is your cue that all you need to do is acknowledge the next ATC call to change frequency but don't contact the ATC for the next frequency.

 

As you move through the ATC zones you will see the "contact ATC in your ATC menu switch through the ATC zones as you fly through them. Do not start your descent until you contact ATC near your destination airport. Make sure you don't wait too late to contact ATC or your descent will be too steep.

 

Hope they helps. I find doing this works really well on long flights. I have left my PC running all night and picked it up in the morning in a 10hour flight with no problems.

I agree with the first part, but the second part is wrong IIRC: You will need to answer the ATC instructions - otherwise your IFR flight plan will be cancelled - but do not follow the instructions. Just continue your route, ATC will ask you a few times to expedite your course and altitude corrections, but at some point FSX will recognize that you're on the planned track, just further one than it initially thought, and you'll get the usual approach instructions.

It's just the opposite with me! It never cancels it for me! It will ask me until I it gives me a resume normal navigation message, then I answer it. I've done flights from JFK to RJAA that way, no problem. If I answer one of the other vectoring requests, it will never let go, until I comply or cancels IFR. What it's actually do is vectoring you to the next waypoint, from where you started the time acceleration. If it doesn't get a response it tries the next one, and so on until it catches up with you.  That's why the vectoring direction will be different each times it asks.

I HATE WHEN THEY DO THAT LOL! they made my frankfurt flight almost an hour late!

are their any good tuturiols for PFE and if so can I have a link? also, can you change the voices?

I have been using Pro Flight Emulator (PFE) together with FDC Live Cockpit (FDC) for a number of years now and I can highly recommend them. PFE replaces the default ATC and includes many voice sets with different English accents, taxi guidance system both verbal and visual and many other improvements. FDC acts as a copilot, performing checklists ext. also has cabin crew announcements, again with different accents. You can buy them individualy or together. They have been tweaked to work together.

 

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I fly from  KJFK to PHNL and retutn to KBOS with RC4. Co -pilot handles the communication all the way with out incident.  If it is a  night flight,when I reach cruise level/ away from 100nm  shore , I give controls to FO and take a long nap :lol: . Turn back to cockpit  200 miles to TOD and land the plane. :lol:

I fly from  KJFK to PHNL and retutn to KBOS with RC4. Co -pilot handles the communication all the way with out incident.  If it is a  night flight,when I reach cruise level/ away from 100nm  shore , I give controls to FO and take a long nap :lol: . Turn back to cockpit  200 miles to TOD and land the plane. :lol:

In RC4, can you accelerate time without it getting all out of whack? In PFE, ATC continues right through acceleration, and when you come out of it, it's right where it needs to be!!

Once at altitude, I just request IFR be cancelled.  When I near my destination, I request an IFR flightplan and reload the flightplan but do not request my aircraft be moved to the point of origin.  I click no there and I'm still on my previous flightplan and ATC takes over for the descent.

 

Best regards,

Jim

I agree with all of the above, I  use a slight variation when using SID's. Don't construct an IFR plan in the FSX planner until airborne. Establish initial contact with ATC, ask for a clearance for departure in a direction, eg " Request departure to the south" (or whatever is the first SID waypoint direction) this way, ATC has established communication with you, for clearance and taxi to the active runway. I might add that if the airport is IFR  weather  then you will not get clearance from ATC. Once airborne, ATC will handover to the next controller, keep doing this and let the aircraft fly your FMC route until you've reached cruise altitude THEN construct or load your IFR flightplan, and ask ATC for IFR clearance. As your in cruise, ATC will tell you to turn and climb to your already achieved flight mode. Wait until ATC hands you over to the next controller BUT don't establish contact.

 

IF you want to fly a STAR approach at your destination and just prior to you FMC descent point, re-establish contact with ATC, then ask for descent in increments of 10,000' feet blocks so that you will always keep ahead of ATC descent requests, While flying the STAR, ATC will try and vector you the way it wants, IGNORE this, as long as you keep asking for further descent paths to coincide with your STAR, ATC will not cancel you clearance. EVENTUALLY, as you near finals ATC will tell you to contact Tower for landing instructions. An important point - prior to descent and if within range dial up ATIS to find the active Runway at your destination, you might have to change your STAR in the FMC, if ATIS is out of range then descend to an altitude that is the highest of all the STAR's available for that airport, ATIS will be received long before this point is received, so you have plenty of time to confirm/change the STAR.

 

This sounds long winded but I've made several 12 hour flights using this method, and given the shortfalls of the FSX ATC, this I believe, achieves a somewhat realistic IFR flight.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

It's just the opposite with me! It never cancels it for me!

Could be - I'm really not sure anymore now, and as I've been away from my sim for two months now, I could really be wrong.