September 14, 201312 yr Commercial Member Hi PMDG, Can you add SB integration? The 777 is the only add-on aircraft I fly that doesn't have it. Best regards, Robin.
September 14, 201312 yr It's not the only one, but I agree it's pita. Hope the new client will integrate that. [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
September 15, 201312 yr What exactly do you mean by "Squawkbox integration"? SB reads the radios and transponder code from the plane. The only thing that isn't read is transponder on/off, which is also true for the NGX, and almost every plane I have ever used in FSX. Steve Caffey
September 15, 201312 yr Hi PMDG, Can you add SB integration? The 777 is the only add-on aircraft I fly that doesn't have it. Best regards, Robin. Can you point me in the direction of any FSX aircraft that DO have it? I find the following aircraft do NOT have it: PMDG 737NGX, PMDG JS41, Majestic DH8D Q400, Realair Beech Duke BE60, Wilco/Feelthere E190/E170 ERJ145/ERJ135, Carenado anything, Leonardo MadDog MD80, Realair Lancair Legacy LEG2, Aerosoft Diamond Katana, Level D 767 (In FSX, it does work in FS9), Default FSX aircraft. Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator
September 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member Can you point me in the direction of any FSX aircraft that DO have it? MJC Dash 8 does (FSX) PMDG MD-11 does (FS9 and FSX) LSH MD-82 does (FS9 and FSX) LevelD 767 does (FS9, I don't have it for X but as far as I'm aware it works there too) PMDG 737NGX does *NOT* (FSX) PMDG 777 does *NOT* (FSX) - I'm perplexed as to why it doesn't. Oversight? Bug? Something we don't know? I'm guessing that because it shares a common codebase with the NGX, it is perhaps missing by accident, rather than by design. I never flew the 737 online all that much (I had a couple of CTD due to TCAS, and before I realized running SB inside the FSX process was a serious detriment to stability; I now run SB outside of FSX but have been flying the MD-11 ever since). Edit: tested, and proven. Best regards, Robin.
September 15, 201312 yr ...iam pretty shure i posted here allready, could it be that some posts get lost because of a magic reason ? :huh: back to topic, a sqauwbox/fsinn mode c switch integration is, from my humble opinion, a long overdue feature... and it is to be fair more important than my belt switch wish ithink. i also think that pilots flying on Vatsim or Ivao have a good chance, beeing the more professional customer, fitting good into PMDG`s target group. on the other hand it seams that there is no FSX variable for it (not shure) but i think i know there was an addon plane that did that, also not shure which (long ago). ...did i read that some new online clients plan supporting the upcomming PMDG 777 SDK ? JG
September 15, 201312 yr I think what he means is that when you change freq in squawkbox (via com1 122.80 for example), the radios in the 777 do not reflect the change as they do in the NGX and any other aircraft I've flown with SB4 in FSX. I just tried to connect tonight with SB4 and change the Com to 122.80 and it didn't recognize the switch in the 777 (or vise versa if I change the freq in the 777, it doesn't change in SB4). This is huge to be able to fly online successfully within SB4. Not sure if I'm making sense to everyone here, but I'm sure that I'm making sense to those who fly online with SB4... I had a guy from our VA Friday night ditch the 777 and fly another A/C just because of this reason.... Robert Shepherd
September 15, 201312 yr I also don't like the fact that SquawkBox works with some aircraft. I have switched to FSInn, and although it doesn't switch transponder modes automatically, it is way more intuitive than the SB method. You just click on the yellow S in the top right hand corner to C, double click to Ident.(Not my image, look here) If traffic libraries is what's holding you away, use the IVAO library in FSInn!! It's amazing!And oh yes, it does detect when you change the frequency, even in the 777! Wybe Witteveen VATSIM S3 Controller | Dutch VACC
September 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member I think what he means is that when you change freq in squawkbox (via com1 122.80 for example), the radios in the 777 do not reflect the change as they do in the NGX and any other aircraft I've flown with SB4 in FSX. Huh??? In the 737NGX, and 777, switching transponder mode does NOT work, and pressing IDENT does NOT work. Tuning the radios is no problem, as the aircraft are coded to use FS, and SB uses FS for this function too, so this works in ALL aircraft without problems. It is the transponder that explictly needs to be programmed to be interoperable, as there is no FS flag for transponder state. The transponder code works though as there is an FS variable for this. Best regards, Robin.
September 15, 201312 yr I think what he means is that when you change freq in squawkbox (via com1 122.80 for example), the radios in the 777 do not reflect the change as they do in the NGX and any other aircraft I've flown with SB4 in FSX. I just tried to connect tonight with SB4 and change the Com to 122.80 and it didn't recognize the switch in the 777 (or vise versa if I change the freq in the 777, it doesn't change in SB4). This is huge to be able to fly online successfully within SB4. Not sure if I'm making sense to everyone here, but I'm sure that I'm making sense to those who fly online with SB4... I had a guy from our VA Friday night ditch the 777 and fly another A/C just because of this reason.... You don't have the com1 radio turned on at the 777 radio panel (Pedistal) There needs to be a Mic light on and the monitoring/volume button needs to be in, lit up, and turned to the right as far as it can go (single left mouse button click on the 2 buttons will do this). If you do not turn on the radio, it will simulate "Radio turned off" by tuning the highest VHF frequency it can (something like 138.97 by memory.) The picture below isn't the PMDG bird, but you can see "MIC CALL" button illuminated and the L VHF knob twisted far right. These 2 buttons need to be in this situation to be able to change frequency, because with them off, your actual VHF communications radio is off. ... you can even use VHF R as a second radio and use just the R VHF knob to "listen" to a second radio (but not transmit on 2 at a time). This way you can listen to ATIS and ATC at the same time, and respond to ATC, with the ATIS continuing to play. The MIC CALL button on the PMDG is actually just a vertical "Line" that lights up orange when it is on. All radios will turn themselves off when the power is turned off (Batt off). So a cold and dark start will have these off. This is because radios use electricity to run, and aren't magic. Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator
September 15, 201312 yr ...iam pretty shure i posted here allready, could it be that some posts get lost because of a magic reason ? :huh: ... JG Well, if you fail to follow the forum rules, that's what will happen... Name available upon request
September 15, 201312 yr Commercial Member Transponder mode and ident are set up to communicate with SB in the 777, as they were in the NGX and MD-11. There is no FSX variable for that, instead some custom FSUIPC offsets are used. These were agreed between Pete Dawson and the SB developers since the early days of SB. However, FSInn will not use these FSUIPC offsets and since it does not provide for an alternative way to communicate with FSX there is nothing we can do for FSInn. So in theory, if you've got FSUIPC (the free unregistered version would be enough) and you are using SB and not FSInn, everything should be working as expected. Since quite a few of you report it doesn't work, we will investigate this further. Last time I asked our beta testers they confirmed they had no problems but I will ask them again to look at this closely. As for COM1/COM2 issues please check the introduction manual, which explains in detail how they work and what you can do to solve any problems you may have with any 3rd party add-ons. Michael FrantzeskakisPrecision Manuals Development Grouphttp://www.precisionmanuals.com
September 15, 201312 yr Transponder mode and ident are set up to communicate with SB in the 777, as they were in the NGX and MD-11. Michael, I can confirm that for me the MD11 does change Squawkbox's transponder mode (never tried ident) but the NGX and 777 do not. Steve Caffey
September 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member Hi Michael, I tested the NGX and 777 last night and confirmed absolutely that setting the transponder mode does not work. FSUIPC is installed (it is the latest version, but not registered). Thanks for looking into this issue! B) Best regards, Robin.
September 15, 201312 yr Well, if you fail to follow the forum rules, that's what will happen... ...i can understand that, but i cant renember doing so, did i ? ...is there then a notification or headup normaly ? Hi Michael, thx for the clarification, allow me to be pleased that SB integration is about to be investigated and reviewed, is there a more complex/complede list of PMDG 777 features somwhere ? ...ithink there are simply to much features to list them all on the product page or ? JG
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