P3D V2.0 update is now on the Prepar3D website!

[bonchie 2,305]

They talk about all these usage for "Training" and not personal entertainment use, but do they define what they consider as "Training"?  Where do we draw the line?

 

People who are serious about FS (most of us here I believe) in general can call everything we do "training", even VFR flights around scenic areas, it's part of "recovery training" you could call.  But to people outside us "playing" FS is just seeing us "gaming" and for leisure use only.

 

So are there clear cut definitions to what LM considers training?

 

PS: It's a shame it's not available for Linux :(

 

You won't be buying it for training, nor will most here.

 

You'll be buying it for simulation. See the check mark next to that under the pro license?

 

Simple. Any further questions should be directed at Prepar3D developers. 

[Brenchen 51]

That's why AVSIM don't want us to discuss P3D EULA/license stuff: It brings up some very uncomfortable questions ...

 

I thought that was a fair and genuine question, and by asking that shows I respect the EULA.  But if it's not encouraged, then I'll leave it there...

[Mazo 40]

OK, here it is again. What is not understood by this simple, clear and concise statement from Tom? What??

 

Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:44 PM

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Any more discussion of the Lockheed P3D EULA here are banned. We have had it. If you have questions about the EULA, want more clarity, or want to arm chair lawyer jawbone it, the take it to the LOCKHEED P3D forums. They have answered the question a thousand times. If you are having angst about it, go ask them directly. Do not do it here.

 

Messages posted about the EULA will be immediately deleted AND the poster will be suspended. Do not go there again.

Tom Allensworth

 

Lyn

[Squishy 0]

Like anyone (except for ultra-hardcore-simmers or very wealthy individuals) are going to spend $200 on 'FSXI / FSX SP3'.

[styckx 1,872]

Here we go again...

 

Yup. Threads like this should be shut down and enforced like the EULA discussion. ALL QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO LM..   

[bonchie 2,305]

Like anyone (except for ultra-hardcore-simmers or very wealthy individuals) are going to spend $200 on 'FSXI / FSX SP3'.

 

People spend 80 dollars for single aircraft. 

 

I'm gonna guess most FSXers on here can swing $199 for a new platform still being developed. 

[vr-pilot 11]

Here we go again...

Yes, but I think to a certain degree this discussion doesn't come from out of the nothing.

There is room for misunderstanding/misinterpretation.

The frequent recurrence is for sure not caused by clear definitions presented to a "less clear" public.

 

So J van E really hit the nail on the head:

 

 

 

Everyone can use P3D for training, simulation, learning so everyone can buy the Professional license. For other licenses you have to qualify (although they leave that up to you).

 

That is what everyone who followed this topic thoroughly through months knows by now. But for those who didn't, the subject is as confusing in the beginning as it was for most of us...

[Arwen 289]

Like anyone (except for ultra-hardcore-simmers or very wealthy individuals) are going to spend $200 on 'FSXI / FSX SP3'.

 

I'm not wealthy by any stretch, And I'm not an "ultra-hardcore simmer." 

 

But I am honest.

[ChaoticBeauty 6,692]

Maybe I'm not seeing something right, but with everyone abusing the Academic license, I won't be surprised if they just raise the price and drop it. I am also surprised to see so many people being openly dishonest. I would hope LM could join with what Adobe, Microsoft, and others do by requiring a validated .edu email to prove you are an academic, undergraduate student. 

 

Hasn't it been abused already a lot with Prepar3D 1.x? I'm sure not many in here have purchased the Professional Licence (and many won't for Prepar3D 2.0) even if they only qualify for that, and I'll have to agree with this. $200 is simply too much. You could buy a new MSFS version for $60 and get not only an upgraded engine but also new aircraft and updated scenery. In Prepar3D 2.0, $200 only gets you an upgraded engine with some more new aircraft, while still including the same 2006 scenery and old aircraft with no updates. This is why I'd prefer to see FS11 happen instead of this.

[Jean-Paul 167]

Guys

 

Which licence you choose is between you and LM. Publically boasting on Avsim about buying the cheapest licence even if you know perfectly well that you are not in the right category won't turn you into a hero and will also lead to a lock of this thread.

 

Consider yourselves warned

[jose88 50]

Does PMDG NGX and 777 run in P3D?

 

 

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[Don t moderate me this way 882]

I'm not wealthy by any stretch, And I'm not an "ultra-hardcore simmer." 

 

But I am honest.

 

 

Thank you, Arwen.

[mgh 89]

Guys

 

Which licence you choose is between you and LM. Publically boasting on Avsim about buying the cheapest licence even if you know perfectly well that you are not in the right category won't turn you into a hero and will also lead to a lock of this thread.

 

Consider yourselves warned

That is the case.

[mganz121 159]

........ This is why I'd prefer to see FS11 happen instead of this.

 

But there will NOT be a FS11. I'm sure you have been around this forum long enough to know that Microsoft have dropped the franchise TWICE now. They are out of the flightsim business and as I said last year, I think that is good for this hobby.

 

Does PMDG NGX and 777 run in P3D?

 

 

Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S con Tapatalk Pro

 

Now you just surely want to stir the pot?????  :lol:  :lol:

[Brenchen 51]

OK, here it is again. What is not understood by this simple, clear and concise statement from Tom? What??

 

Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:44 PM

POPULAR

Any more discussion of the Lockheed P3D EULA here are banned. We have had it. If you have questions about the EULA, want more clarity, or want to arm chair lawyer jawbone it, the take it to the LOCKHEED P3D forums. They have answered the question a thousand times. If you are having angst about it, go ask them directly. Do not do it here.

 

Messages posted about the EULA will be immediately deleted AND the poster will be suspended. Do not go there again.

Tom Allensworth

 

Lyn

 

OK That's fair enough, not too difficult to understand if one sees it on the 4th Oct.  So I won't make anymore of related comments again now that I see it on the 20th Nov.