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Well I've given it a fair go.....

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Hi All,

 

As the topic suggests I've spent, since the day of release, many hours (some of which were frustrating) trying to get the best out of P3D2  but must say that I'll be sticking with my FSX FX10 config for the foreseeable future as P3D2 simply isn't anywhere near as good. It may be down to the hardware I have, lack of Orbx V2 regions, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'll be monitoring very carefully and will certainly be dipping my toe in every now and then but for now FSX is King...for me anyway.

 

Daz

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>isn't anywhere near as good

 

Care to expand more specifically on this?

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Not really at this stage as it may be machine specific.


No. Not dumb. Just that my review may cloud other people's interest.

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Who the heck is Bloodbean? Joined 2010, 0 posts yet has the gall to vote 'Dumb'! Jeez!

 

Come on Bloodbean, come out from hiding and tell us why this guy's opinion is dumb. :angry:

 

EDIT: I've just given a 'Like' just to balance things out. :P

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Fair comment.

 

it needs a little time to find its feet but it will grow at a rapid pace over the next 12 months I'm enjoying it so far but I understand what your saying.

 

Why has the OP got a dumb vote for his two posts from Bloodbean this new feedback system is just feeding the trolls big time.

 

EDIT:: just noticed your comment Ron well said

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Thanks for that. Appreciated.

 

I've tried to be fair and balanced.

 

Perhaps over the years of expanders, tweaking, learning, I've managed to get FSX to perform the best it can on my system, especially with the excellent DX10 and SweetFX addons. I really cannot afford to replace my hardware at the moment and see no reason, whatsoever to do so. I really wanted P3D2 to be a show stopper, but for me it's not.....at the moment.

 

I shall append my rig specs to my signature but for now it's:

 

i7 920 O/C 3.36GHz

6GB RAM

GTX 470

THG2G DE

3 x Samsung T240 monitors

Win 7 64-bit

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I completely erased FSX from my system yesterday, every little remnant and crumb.  Got rid of DX10 Fixer, so long REX OD add-on, so long all of it and it feels wonderful.  I fire up P3D and it has everything I need, even the freaking clouds are awesome.  No tweaks needed, no extra clouds or water addons, no "DX11 Fixer".  AFAIK this is the future, may as well stay along for the ride.  Cause the FSX support is gone.

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I gave a 'like' too - I think it's ridiculous that someone could label a post like that as 'Dumb' ........

 

'Bloodbean' ; judging people as 'dumb' having never posted in his life      = coward!   :P

 

I definitely hope the AVSIM staff will remove the 'Dumb' vote ........ it is just artilliary for trolls.....

 

Anyhoo, to the OP, I don't know what your hardware specs are but P3D2 really needs a graphics card with ideally 2GB VRAM.     I have noticed that most of the people (like me) who are loving it, have 2GB VRAM cards.      For me, my FSX settings always had to stay conservative because I had a Mobo that would not allow CPU overclocking.   So I was always 'restrained' at stock CPU speed of 3.4Ghz.    With P3D2, that now hardly matters, and by 2GB VRAM is 'flexing it's muscles'   :smile:

 

There's nothing at all wrong with FSX (especially with DX10 running well), but I hope one day you get to enjoy the benefits of P3D2.

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We moderators have no ability to change the "voting" as it wouldn't really be fair otherwise...

 

...and we frankly have far, far more important things to worry about...

 

I installed P3D v2.0 last night, and finished the install early this morning. After a few self-inflicted mistakes (such as stupidly trying to change the default flight!), I got things working fairly well. I've simply accepted the auto-generated settings that P3D determined based on my hardware.

 

Quite honestly, I'm rather surprised that it runs at all, given my ancient GTX550Ti video card with only 1GB of VRAM!!!

 

The main reason for me installing P3D to begin with though was so that I could test out my installer script(s) for Milviz products. It's a good thing too, because I had to adjust the Registry path in the installer so that it would find Prepar3D v2...

 

The "good news" is that my installer works perfectly, as does the test package I installed. The "bad news" is that my system simply can't handle the full aircraft, textures and gauge system... :unsure:

 

While I can load and fly the supplied prop aircraft, my system will choke trying to load and run the 'default' jet aircraft, presumably because of all the "glass displays." :blush:

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We moderators have no ability to change the "voting" as it wouldn't really be fair otherwise...

 

...and we frankly have far, far more important things to worry about..

 

I was not talking about an intervention in votes;   I was talking about a tweak to the actual IPB forum configuration Bill, to remove the "Dumb" category. 

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I gave a 'like' too - I think it's ridiculous that someone could label a post like that as 'Dumb' ........

 

'Bloodbean' ; judging people as 'dumb' having never posted in his life      = coward!  

 

I definitely hope the AVSIM staff will remove the 'Dumb' vote ........ it is just artilliary for trolls.....

 

I think it's clear where the "dumbness"(?) is to be found.  

 

All the same, I'd for for leaving the "dumb" feedback button there as some posts really do deserve it. Anyway, a dumb vote to what is clearly a reasonable post says a lot more about the voter than it ever could about the poster.

 

Oh, and +1 likes for Ron.

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I was not talking about an intervention in votes;   I was talking about a tweak to the actual IPB forum configuration Bill, to remove the "Dumb" category. 

Oh I see. Perhaps it needs a "Not Dumb" to offset it. After all, the other options are mostly binary choices... ;)

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Oh I see. Perhaps it needs a "Not Dumb" to offset it. After all, the other options are mostly binary choices... ;)

 

Yes that's a good point actually Bill.  Then people could indeed offset any undue 'dumb' accusations!  :smile:

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GTX 470 is your issue.  Rest of your rig is almost identical to mine except for that I'm on windows 8.1, your cpu is actually faster than mine. I just bought the EVGA GTX760 video card 2gb DDR5 ---- and p3dv2 is running smooth with most setting 1 notch below max!

 

For me anyway it's a big improvement over my fsx performance. I assume it has to do with cpu power vs. gpu power.

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Not really at this stage as it may be machine specific.

 

 

If you think it is a machine problem or setup error then I can understand.

 

But if you are withholding your feedback because of your hardware specs, that's not just. The more feedback on all types of hardware is important, just need to lay all the info out there so one can judge accordingly.

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The more feedback on all types of hardware is important, just need to lay all the info out there so one can judge accordingly.

 

 

 




i7 920 O/C 3.36GHz

6GB RAM

GTX 470

THG2G DE

3 x Samsung T240 monitors

Win 7 64-bit

 

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no extra clouds or water addons

 

Seriously...? I've not yet installed REX because I am waiting for their surprise, but the default P3D clouds are really awful. Fake. Just like the default FSX clouds! I will also install as little as possible, but I certainly will install addon clouds!

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IMO dumb vote should only be cast when a someone asks a question that....

 

1. Can't possibly be answered...(Will P3d v4.0 have crowd sourced OSM data standard?)

 

2. The answer or response is so out of line with the majority that it warrants a "Dumb" Vote... "All Fly Tampa Airports and PMDG Aircraft suck".

 

3 When an aswer has been covered 40 billion times yet still gets asked without any attempt to use the search function... (I realy like the PMDG DC6 exactlly when will  it be released?)

 

4. when someone brings up a subject that is clearly covered in a "pinned" topic but chose not to take the time to read it... (I want to talk about P3d's EULA for a moment...)

 

5. When expectation managment has clearly not been applied...(Why can't I max my settings in XP10, my system has 4gb of ram and a GEForce 640;  isn't this suppose to be 64bit?)

 

Could go on but it's off topic and that would be "Dumb".

 

Blaze

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'Dumb' is just rude. No justification for it at all. In my opinion of course.Ron,

Ron, of course I value your opinion but this is where we disagree...

IMO this is one of the fundamental things wrong with today in that everyone is so darn worried about being "justified" or "politically correct" for whatever reason that they just wont say what they really believe for fear of being chastised by the masses;...If it's dumb well doggonit; it's probably dumb!!!

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I'm in the same boat. My FSX is loaded with addons and still runs better than default P3D at medium settings. I see everyone rave about no more stutters, but I get them more in P3D than I do in FSX. I will hang onto P3D and see what the future holds but right now, I'm a bit disappointed. 

 

I5-2500k @4.5GHz

8GB RAM

GTX 560 1GB (Probably the weak point, but I'm not dropping $200+ on a video card for P3D just yet...)

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Hi All,

 

As the topic suggests I've spent, since the day of release, many hours (some of which were frustrating) trying to get the best out of P3D2  but must say that I'll be sticking with my FSX FX10 config for the foreseeable future as P3D2 simply isn't anywhere near as good. It may be down to the hardware I have, lack of Orbx V2 regions, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'll be monitoring very carefully and will certainly be dipping my toe in every now and then but for now FSX is King...for me anyway.

 

Daz

Hey take a look at airdailyX they have a guide to install all orbx stuff into p3d

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FSX FX10 config for the foreseeable future as P3D2 simply isn't anywhere near as good.

 

I don't consider your opinion dumb, but your comment is rather incomplete.  For example, you don't say exactly what is not "as good"?

 

So you like to see AutoGen (buildings, trees, etc.) magically pop up and grow and become visible as you fly (what we see in FSX)?  This is better than P3Dv2?  For myself, and real world flying, how FSX grows/pops AutoGen is incredibly unrealistic. 

 

Here is what P3Dv2 provides:

1.  Object Instancing which is a huge performance benefit for multiple copies of objects (like trees)

2.  Particle and Effects are render by the GPU not the CPU

3.  3rd Party Developers now have direct access to the render pipeline

4.  Fully dynamic day/night lighting rather the pre-render

5.  Dynamic 3D waves

6.  Night visibility improvements

7.  Environment shadows that reflect in your VC (not just your own Aircraft)

8.  Weather - lightning can affect shadwos

9.  Shader compilation is now threaded which reduces stutters

 

... and the list of improvements in P3Dv2 goes on and on and on ... these are just scratching the surface.

 

Most of the comments I've see from folks not liking P3Dv2 is due to insufficient hardware to run it well ... but I don't see how that "problem" can be aimed at LM/P3Dv2 or make a statement that FSX is better -- it's your choice to not upgrade your hardware.  With P3Dv2 at least you can toss new hardware at and it will improve, which is not the case with FSX.

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I've not yet installed REX because I am waiting for their surprise

 

Cloud shadows? Says new sprites where they now determine exactly where a cloud sprite begins and ends for in-cloud weather effects. SO theoretically possible to place a shadow effect on the ground ...

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Well, at least today you have a choice. I can see a case if people have to run P3D with lowered settings which undercut the benefits of Dx11, perhaps Fsx might be as good or compelling... in that case. And a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. But P3Dv2 gives developers something they've never had before.. and longed for perhaps. With Dx11 it's a better foundation for modern day add-ons, which as they begin to leverage will make Fsx pale. Wait till orbx and Rex and all these folks get their teeth into P3Dv2...What will become of that bird? Enjoy Fsx... But P3Dv2 is surpassing what was possible.

 

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