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Hello everyone, I just installed p3dv2 and my CH products do not show up in the control setting section of P3d. All that is there is the mouse. My controls are the yoke, peddles and throttle quadrant. I have them pluged into the usb ports and I thought p3d would automatic pick them up? But no. I have the control manager and controls are calibrated through the manager. I downloaded and installed FSUIPC for v2.0 but the gui does not work. I heard other people speak of that in other threads. Latest drivers installed in all controls. Does anyone know the magic trick to import their controls into p3d? I have run out of ideas. P3D is a beautifull platform from what I can see on the ground but with no controls it is not doing me much good. Any help will be appreciated.

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Mine were detected altho I have them completely mapped in FSUIPC except the hat switch. You might try 1) see if there are any usb errors showing in device manager 2) reinstall your mobo USB drivers 3) unplug your devices, start P3D and then plug them in - see if they show. ALso check your power save settings - you might have the usb ports set to go to sleep when not used.

 

Vic

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Before I downgraded to Windows 7 my CH Eclipse (Then disappeared soon after thanks to Windows 8 joystick bug).. I also had to map it to FSUIPC (after some initial reluctance :lol: ) But it did see it..  

 

If you're not on Windows 8 though and it's still not showing up, that's strange.. 

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Make sure to get CH control manager 4.55a or greater for Win8.

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Hello everyone, I just installed p3dv2 and my CH products do not show up in the control setting section of P3d. All that is there is the mouse. My controls are the yoke, peddles and throttle quadrant. I have them pluged into the usb ports and I thought p3d would automatic pick them up? But no. I have the control manager and controls are calibrated through the manager. I downloaded and installed FSUIPC for v2.0 but the gui does not work. I heard other people speak of that in other threads. Latest drivers installed in all controls. Does anyone know the magic trick to import their controls into p3d? I have run out of ideas. P3D is a beautifull platform from what I can see on the ground but with no controls it is not doing me much good. Any help will be appreciated.

 

 

For a problem like this it's best to tell us what OS your using.

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I'm sorry, Yes, that would help. I have windows 7  64 bit, control manager 455a and all usb ports show in windows as working. Power management set to never sleep or cut off. How would you know if your FSUIPC is working? I have the v for p3dv2. It shows up in the LM  modules file but can't it to display?

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Mine were detected altho I have them completely mapped in FSUIPC except the hat switch. You might try 1) see if there are any usb errors showing in device manager 2) reinstall your mobo USB drivers 3) unplug your devices, start P3D and then plug them in - see if they show. ALso check your power save settings - you might have the usb ports set to go to sleep when not used.

 

Vic

 

 

Why not set up the hat switch through FSUIPC as well? DO NOT set it using the button controls, but instead use the Axis Assignment tab to assign the hat switch as "Send to FS as Normal Axis" and in the drop-down box select "Pan View". You can then disable controllers entirely in FSX/P3D and the hat switch on either the regular or Eclipse Yoke, Fighterstick or Pro Throttle will function exactly as it does when set through the FSX/P3D Controls Setup.

 

 

I'm sorry, Yes, that would help. I have windows 7  64 bit, control manager 455a and all usb ports show in windows as working. Power management set to never sleep or cut off. How would you know if your FSUIPC is working? I have the v for p3dv2. It shows up in the LM  modules file but can't it to display?

 

You need to install the latest version of FSUIPC, the earlier versions had a bug that would cause the FSUIPC window not to appear. Download the latest installer and patches from here: http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/

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Why not set up the hat switch through FSUIPC as well? DO NOT set it using the button controls, but instead use the Axis Assignment tab to assign the hat switch as "Send to FS as Normal Axis" and in the drop-down box select "Pan View". You can then disable controllers entirely in FSX/P3D and the hat switch on either the regular or Eclipse Yoke, Fighterstick or Pro Throttle will function exactly as it does when set through the FSX/P3D Controls Setup.

I may have to revisit that. I set it up that way originally but for some reason, either I didn't like it or it don't work properly, I forget - either way - it was easier to leave it set in FSX/P3D.

 

I'll give it another shot.

 

Thanx,

 

Vic

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I also have the CH Eclipse yoke & Pro Pedals in P3D on Win7 64 bit. They both should just show up when they are plugged in and Win7 installs the drivers. I calibrate them in CH Control Manager and then set the assignments in P3D Controls. I do not use FSUIPC to map any of my controls.

 

Do they show up in Windows Device Manager under "CH Products"? If they are not there then the OS is not seeing them. Very strange indeed.

 

Good Luck.

 

Lyn

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P3Dv2 auto-detected my CH Yoke and Pedals immediately. FSUIPC handles all my calibration needs.

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I may have to revisit that. I set it up that way originally but for some reason, either I didn't like it or it don't work properly, I forget - either way - it was easier to leave it set in FSX/P3D.

 

I'll give it another shot.

 

Thanx,

 

Vic

 

I only mention it because I know from experience how much of a PITA it is to go through the FSX/P3D controls dialog and delete all the buttons and axes from all my CH gear if the controls.xml ever ends up back at default. ^_^

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It's been my practice to make a backup copy of the controls.xml file...

 

...it's saved my bacon more than once! B)

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I would uninstall CH Control Manager.. Every joystick I've ever owned and whatever over the years I NEVER install the software they bundled with it..  Windows handles things fine and the software usually causes more problems..

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I only mention it because I know from experience how much of a PITA it is to go through the FSX/P3D controls dialog and delete all the buttons and axes from all my CH gear if the controls.xml ever ends up back at default. ^_^

When I switched to P3D2 - had to do that. Could have just disabled controls if it wasn't for the hat switch. yup, I think I'll take a look at that again JIC.

 

Vic

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It's been my practice to make a backup copy of the controls.xml file...

 

...it's saved my bacon more than once! B)

 

I'm not smart enough to have thought of doing that... but am going to do it tonight!

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Styckx, You are so correct. Last night before I read this thread this morning I thought to my self since I've tried everthing else I'll delete CH manager and try it. Sure enough, I deleted CH manager and all three controls were detected by P3D! That is weird? I was able to calibrate all three through just P3d and everything is all set. Don't know why CH software conflicts with P3d but it does for me on my system. As stated, I have windows 7 64 bit.  I won't to thank all who replied to my help request. This is a great family fliers!

 

Regards

 

Lamar Wright

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The CH manager is relatively ancient software that was supplied to provide support for older operating systems that did not have native drivers for external hardware. It is obsolete... :wacko:

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The CH drivers are OK, they don't respond to sleep/wakeup event's, not too much of a problem. Once you've got a properly installed CH Manager, you need to start the "C:\Program Files (x86)\CH Products\CMCtlCtr.exe" program each time you boot up, place a shortcut to it into your startup folder. "C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup"

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"Okay" perhaps, but also totally unnecessary...

 

...but thanks for providing the tip on how to make it work!  ^_^

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"Okay" perhaps, but also totally unnecessary...

Not sure what made you say that, I find the CH setup with CH Manager works best.

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Two reasons, actually. P3Dv2 has excellent support for CH products already, and FSUIPC has always been my go to for fine-tuning my controls. It's already present for a host of other reasons, so I may as well use its facilities rather than having yet another TSR program taking up resources... :Nerd:

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CH Manager is not a TSR program, (last time I heard about them I had DOS on a 486) but rather why would I want a .dll running in process with P3D/FSX when it's not necessary?

 

I would unplug all CH items and remove CH Control Manager with the Control Panel remove apps. Then reboot and plug all the CH items in and then install CH Control Manager 455a. Put the shortcut to CMCtlCtr.exe in the startup and make sure it's set to mapped and that the mappings have been downloaded and CMCtlCtr is set to start in mapped mode.

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Styckx, You are so correct. Last night before I read this thread this morning I thought to my self since I've tried everthing else I'll delete CH manager and try it. Sure enough, I deleted CH manager and all three controls were detected by P3D! That is weird? I was able to calibrate all three through just P3d and everything is all set. Don't know why CH software conflicts with P3d but it does for me on my system. As stated, I have windows 7 64 bit.  I won't to thank all who replied to my help request. This is a great family fliers!

 

Regards

 

Lamar Wright 

 

 

B)  So glad I could help, or well. Back up with what you figured out on your own.  :lol:

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rather than having yet another TSR program taking up resources

Other programs do not take up valuable resources from P3D/FSX but .dll's do, that's what they do.

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