Hey guys, I was just wondering

In real life, would they put copilot's chronometer mode to ET (elapsed time) before takeoff too, or just captain's?

I thought both would go to ET, but if I think better, they may need a chronometer for other calculations in flight. Now, I would assume that different company SOPs vary, but what's the most common one? And is there a way to return to ET without resetting it after CHR button was pressed (or CLOCK on the side panel)?

Also on the video below, after 14th second, it's shown that the hand on the clock goes smoothly, not 1 by 1. Is this something PMDG made that way due to limitations of FSX (eg FPS impact for the animation) or bug?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

In real life, would they put copilot's chronometer mode to ET (elapsed time) before takeoff too, or just captain's?

 

Why waste the extra resource to do the same exact thing?

 

 

 

but if I think better, they may need a chronometer for other calculations in flight.

 

There ya go...

 

 

 

Now, I would assume that different company SOPs vary, but what's the most common one?

 

This is going to come across wrong, but does it really matter?  It's a clock.  Use it for whatever you need it for.

I do suppose you're right, but I'm such a freak when it comes to operating the aircraft as close as they would in real life   Maybe I shouldn't worry too much.

You have two separate clocks with two separate functions, ET, and chronometer (button at edge of glareshield, grouped with PTT button and map light knob).

 

I use FO clock for block time, Cpt one for fly time and chronometers for engine start and other things.

 

What I found neat is ECL countdown time in checklist if required. 

I do suppose you're right, but I'm such a freak when it comes to operating the aircraft as close as they would in real life   Maybe I shouldn't worry too much.

 

The problem is, aviation isn't that rigid.  I know simmers all think that flying is some giant, rigid, formulaic, exact procedure, but it's not.  Whereas one airline will specify the use of both chronometers, another will not specify their use at all.  To be honest, I rarely ever touch them unless I absolutely need to use them for something (timing an IAP).

 

Some airlines are very rigid about what they tell their crews to do.  Others leave it up to the crews to use the tools at their disposal.

 

 

 

Oversaturating the crew with random tasks to do has the potential to reduce situatonal awareness, among other things.

All that is required is that the Captains clock is correct in terms of UTC, otherwise it is purely a SOP thing. Crews must note block times as it is a legal requirement for flight hours and other things like that, but running the ET for the purpose is not necessary.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

Why waste the extra resource to do the same exact thing?

 

 

There ya go...

 

 

This is going to come across wrong, but does it really matter? It's a clock. Use it for whatever you need it for.

Both clocks can do both stopwatch and elapsed time functions at the same time. If you don't set flight elapsed time on the F/O side what else are you going to use the ET function for?

 

Whether it's company procedure to do so is another matter but it might be useful to have it set on both sides.

 

 

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Neither the Tutorial 1 nor Introduction PDF's describe what are the functions other other 3 levers on the clock.  Can someone please explain?

 

Also, is it possible to get the clock to show local time instead of UTC?

 

 

Both clocks can do both stopwatch and elapsed time functions at the same time. If you don't set flight elapsed time on the F/O side what else are you going to use the ET function for?

 

I wasn't saying that you shouldn't use them both, I was simply questioning why someone would want the same exact ET on both sides.  His third sentence was "I thought both would go to ET."

 

It just seems pointless to have both of them running the whole flight on the same elapsed time.  I can definitely see having one on ET, and the other for various elapsed times for different reasons, but tying both of them up to track the same total flight time?  That just seems to be a waste.

 

 

 

Can someone please explain?

 

FCOM 10.10.62

 

 

 

Also, is it possible to get the clock to show local time instead of UTC?

 

Yes, but you'd have to set that manually.  It's not a function of the real clock in the 777.

 

 

I wasn't saying that you shouldn't use them both, I was simply questioning why someone would want the same exact ET on both sides. His third sentence was "I thought both would go to ET."



It just seems pointless to have both of them running the whole flight on the same elapsed time. I can definitely see having one on ET, and the other for various elapsed times for different reasons, but tying both of them up to track the same total flight time? That just seems to be a waste.

And I wasn't saying it should be used for that. However, assuming it's not needed for anything else, having flight elapsed time on the F/O's side might be convenient, rather than having to read the Captains.

 

What I found neat is ECL countdown time in checklist if required. 

This is one of my favorite bits. A very thoughtful feature from Boeing.

I only use the Captain's chronometer.

 

I find that, on a long haul, starting the ET at takeoff allows me to time each waypoint passed. I then check fuel remaining to the PMDG FP.

 

I have found that PMDG forecasts are remarkably accurate. Any deviations in times I can use to check for en route wind variations.

 

As Kyle remarks, this is just MY way of doing things. I do this because it gives me re-enforcement that I am in control of my flight.

Some airlines might start one at brake release and the other at takeoff. That's what I do with the 737 with FS2Crew, I start the left one at brakes off (and run it till brakes set) and the FO automatically starts his at T/O and stops it exiting the runway. As always it will differ between operators.

I personally put the left clock on when I release the parking brake and stop it after I shutdown the aircraft at the other end (block to block basically). My side (right) I start when cleared for takeoff and stop when cleaning up aircraft after landing. Don't really use the Chronometer. Only time can remember was when in holds to time them.

I personally put the left clock on when I release the parking brake and stop it after I shutdown the aircraft at the other end (block to block basically). My side (right) I start when cleared for takeoff and stop when cleaning up aircraft after landing. Don't really use the Chronometer. Only time can remember was when in holds to time them.

 

Ah yeah, to be specific I didn't mean the chronometer but rather the ET function.. oops.