I have a set up similar to you and run PFPX and vPilot on the second WinXP computer.  My FSX computer is Win7.  No issues at all.  ASN is on my FSX computer.

 

 

 

That's great, thank you.  I'll play around with it this weekend and see how much I screw it up (which I will) and  bug you guys through PM.

 

 

 

 

Just load a regular FSX PLN file into ASN to get it to create a flight briefing (which also creates the WX file, or at least makes the WX file more relevant to your flight...never bothered to check more specifically).

 

After loading the plan - set it and forget it.

 

Well....that's easy.  I was overthinking it.

 

Thanks again for the responses.  

 

Chris K.

 

 

Additionally, the very fact that the computers have to communicate increases the latency as well.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Kyle. That has convinced me to move ASN to my fsx rig. 

Thanks for the detailed explanation Kyle. That has convinced me to move ASN to my fsx rig. 

 

Welcome!  Yeah, for a while I was in the die hard "MOVE ALL THE TOOLS" to my second PC.  After I realized that it wasn't saving me much (other than the convenience factor), I'm in the middle of the road.  There's probably somewhat of an improvement, but not huge (for multi-core machines), but at the same time, the limitations of the network are going to hose your performance (depending on your net setup - my house is all wireless because it's pretty old, and I can't wire it myself because it's a rental).

 

You won't regret it for the performance it'll bring you with the weather radar.

 

 

Well....that's easy.  I was overthinking it.

 

Thanks again for the responses.  

 

haha - welcome!  That's the problem with computers: it's either stupidly difficult, or stupidly easy...and it's usually the former.  I believe ASN updates the WX file as things go on.  If not, I think there's a Refresh button on the flight plan page that will probably force a refresh of the WX file, too.

 

If someone asks HiFi people and gets an answer, be sure to post it here.  I just push WX files from PFPX anyway, so I probably won't end up asking.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Kyle. That has convinced me to move ASN to my fsx rig.

 

I have no problem with "Latency". The fact that I can view  ASN. moving maps etc while not disrupting the sim at all far out ways any, if any latency! Never seen it. Benn using Active sky for years on anetwork computer and wouldn't even consider putting it on the sim machine.

I guess Kyle has issues because of his wireless setup, Wired 1Gigabit is plenty fast enough.

It is twice the speed of a single Pci 2 lane, X-plane manages to sync up the graphics from multiple PC's running a monitor each over ethernet.

 

glyn

 

 

I have no problem with "Latency". The fact that I can view  ASN. moving maps etc while not disrupting the sim at all far out ways any, if any latency! Never seen it. Benn using Active sky for years on anetwork computer and wouldn't even consider putting it on the sim machine.

 

I guess Kyle has issues because of his wireless setup, Wired 1Gigabit is plenty fast enough.

It is twice the speed of a single Pci 2 lane, X-plane manages to sync up the graphics from multiple PC's running a monitor each over ethernet.

 

glyn

 

I'm not sure what your guys' angle is, so I'll address this directly (apologize in advance for the bluntness, but I'm perceiving a little "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, so I'll step in and say 'it must just be him,' because my rig is certainly fine").

 

First, as far as networking goes,I'm S+ and F5 LTM certified.  I know a thing or two about networks, network speeds, and configuring things to be delivered to the right place, as fast as possible (most of this being related to the latter cert, of course).  I'm saying that to point out that it's not a simple issue of "this guy clearly sucks at getting the most out of his network, so ignore his suggestions, because they're amateur hour."  That couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Second, you'll note that I very intentionally made it a point to tell people I was running wirelessly, and that I am forced to do so.  Anyone with a little network knowledge should know that my pointing that out is likely related to me alluding to the fact that you'll probably get better performance when wired (but since I haven't tried, I wasn't going to say "the radar latency issue was non-existent when running wired).

 

Third - and probably most importantly - neither of you have the software that I have to be making claims about its performance on the same level I'm mentioning.  The moving map, even when running on the same computer, doesn't update at the same refresh rate that the weather radar refreshes (which are constant).  Weather radar needs a constant feed.  So, yeah, sure, the moving map is probably just fine, and the weather is also just fine, and had I done more troubleshooting I would've figured out the rain issue.  The issue is getting the weather radar data (and there's a lot of it) from ASN to the sim.  Again, wired will probably eliminate a lot of the issues I'm seeing, but I really don't see any performance loss from running it locally.

 

 

 

Since most people are referring to ASN and the 777 around here lately, I figured I'd point out the potential issue now, just in case people wanted to prepare for it.  There's no sense going through all the extra effort of networking in search of gains you're probably not going to see.  Seriously - unless you're running really old (non-multi-core) hardware, you're not going to see enough of a performance gain that it's worth going through all of that effort.

 

Again, sorry if that was a little more pointed than it needed to be, but I didn't want people looking at your posts going:

"You know what? They're right!  Kyle must be network challenged!"

...and then have them go through all of the effort of networking everything, only to find that the radar isn't performing on the level it should be.

Kyle, I am in exactly the same boat as you RE wireless. I can't re-wire house even though it is brand new (literally) and am forced to run 300mbps wifi. (with crap latency) I also don't have issues RE moving maps etc, but tried ASN via network and it was nasty. So switched back to local. I am in the process of having 100-50mbps fibre installed to replace my 15mbps ADSL, the owner has agreed to the extra wiring so I will possibly have 1gbps Ethernet from the fibre router to my PC, and will re-test then, but I don't foresee much change. Perhaps you could better explain the concepts of latency etc. to the guys on here. (I actually have my own IT business but am hopeless at teaching, if they think you are blunt, they will send the lynch mob out for me if I get started on one of my "lectures" as my employees call it.)

I'm not sure what your guys' angle is, so I'll address this directly (apologize in advance for the bluntness, but I'm perceiving a little "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, so I'll step in and say 'it must just be him,' because my rig is certainly fine").

 

 

Kyle, do you not sometimes feel you may be a bit over defensive?

Just because someone has a different experience running and setting up their hardware to you does not mean they are running you down.

Does not mean they are wrong either.

 

Why apologize in advance for being blunt ?

Just try not being blunt in the first place, just because you are a smart young guy does not mean that you can talk to folk in any manner you choose.

 

To be honest I was kind of agreeing with you about wireless perhaps not being the best method but you could not see that, prefering to see it as a put down.

 

I'll leave you to strut your stuff in this forum, most here seem to be happy to put up with your attitude but not me.

 

 

glyn

 

 

Kyle, do you not sometimes feel you may be a bit over defensive?

 

Occasionally, but then I read comments like this one, and I'm reminded precisely why:

 

 

I'll leave you to strut your stuff in this forum, most here seem to be happy to put up with your attitude but not me.

Well...I really thought I could get this sorted from the frooglesim video and other resources on the net.  This isn't related to PMDG so feel free to respond in PM.  I would appreciate any advice.

 

I'm pretty sure I got the first step correct, mapping the network drive between the FSX computer (W7) and the client (XP).  I saw on another video that I should create the same Homegroup name, so I've done that as well.

 

When I click on the network drive , Z, on the client computer I get an access denied error. (I'm trying to post a screen shot and have no idea what happened to the attach  button.  Did I not drink enough coffee this morning?  This isn't my first rodeo but sure seems like one.)

 

 

I did some searching around and tried to create additional permissions by right clicking Z and choosing properties.  When the dialogue box opens I do not get a secruity option tab.  I only get a "General Tab" that shows used and free space.  It is showing at completely free.

 

At least i warned you that I would be bugging you guys.  Thanks for any help.

 

Chris K.

 

 

I did some searching around and tried to create additional permissions by right clicking Z and choosing properties. When the dialogue box opens I do not get a secruity option tab. I only get a "General Tab" that shows used and free space. It is showing at completely free.

To change permission you cant click on Z on the other computer, you need to go back to whatever folder the Z is pointing at on the HOST computer, EG my Z drive points at C:\FSX on my main PC. Hence, to edit permission, I go via this C:\FSX folder, and you will then find permissions. Also a side note: networking between XP and Win 7 can be somewhat tricky at times even for non-FSX related issues.

Hi Wes,

 

Thanks for the help.  After I posted yesterday and I messed around with the permissions on the C: drive.  I gave access to the whole drive when I "mapped" it, not just the FSX folder but I'll double check to see if i did this accurately.

 

I've heard that about XP and 7 issues, so I might just bite the bullet and upgrade to 7.  I have an amazon gift certificate burning a hole in my pocket but W7 isn't the most exciting thing to spend your money on.

 

I'll fool around with it some more today and might PM you, so I don't create a bunch of posts in the thread.

 

Cheers, Chris K.

 

 

'll fool around with it some more today and might PM you, so I don't create a bunch of posts in the thread.

Cheers, Chris K.

Yeah I am happy to help if I can. Was thinking of doing a networking + Simconnect tutorial if there is not one already on Avsim.

I have FSX on a 27" ASUS, PFPX and ASN split on a 23" HP and AivlaSoft EFB on a 19" Dell that rotates 90 degrees for north-south flightplans. I tried ASN on a separate i3 laptop, got it talking and keeping up but whenever the laptop went to sleep it lost the handshake to the EFB DataProvider. The only way I could re-establish an aircraft aware connection was to shut EFB and DP down and restart them and reload the flightplan. When I take leave of the cockpit I bring up screen three, the EFB on my iPad through AirDisplay as a mirror. AirDisplay really shocks FPS but at least the cockpit isn't unattended. I can also bring up FSCommander on the i3 laptop via WideFS and use its moving map display. Its okay but IMO the AivlaSoft EFB just plain knocks the socks off FSCommander.

 

Has anyone had the EFB-DataProvider problem of losing handshake? What is your work around if you fixed it?

 

BTW-- With 16GB memory and a 4.6Ghz OC I never see processor loads in excess of 75% nor FSX VAS over 3.2Gb. Even with three monitors, two driven by the EVGA GTX 560ti (OC'd) and one driven by the onboard G3000 I maintain 30FPS via FRAPS,  (20FPS at KLAX, KORD and KJFK) on windowed FSX with Pseudo FullScreen enabled..

I tried ASN on a separate i3 laptop, got it talking and keeping up but whenever the laptop went to sleep it lost the handshake to the EFB DataProvider.

 

Ever thought of just changing the power options on the Laptop to "always on"

 

glyn