So any of you (Iris Dynamics, Brunner, Flight Illusion) coming to FSweekend (http://www.fsweekend.com/index.php) to show your product? I am on the market for a ffb yoke however nobody has reviews for their product (apart from their owns). Is it so poor that your customers have nothing good to tell? Why are you hiding your products? I am close to gave up the idea and invest the money in more hours and sim with a joystick - which I believe is what I get to fly in the future real word. 

Hi,

We are not going to be coming there this time. not sure about the other guys. I have used all the units ours brunners and flight Illisions, although I doubt that I can be a trusted source of information all things considered. I also don't want to say bad things about the competition. If you have a very spefic question about any unit I can give you my experiance. We have a few units in customers hands and they are giving us feedback on a regular basis which has already caused a few improvements. We are producing units at the moment and there will be a lot more units out to customers very soon, so hopefully you will get some independant reviews.

Yes please, I would like to hear your experiences on Brunner and other ffb yokes very much. Given you're in direct competition with them you automatically earn out trust. Brunner and others been selling their units for quite a while. When I asked the first one for any customer feedback - our customers prefer to stay confidential was the response. So I checked the referee links on their website- waste of time. Then I asked about the return policies and agreed if I change my mind I pay for postage, then placed the order and got charged 155 euro postage and transaction charge on top of 1499 euro for E yoke. Well since fs weekend is this weekend I decided to come over and ask ppl about Brunner etc who appears not attending either. Very spooky business selling ffb yokes to simmers...

Well guys I'm back from fsweekend Lelystad and have some good news on ffb yokes if you are interested. First I would recommend it to anyone who never been there before visit the nxt year show - you will get many chances to put your hands on the craziest (best in the world) set ups you may only envision and discuss them with the authors - people who are at the top of simming and left no stone unturned. Flight Illusion was there (big respect to you guys!!!) with all three ffb yokes from their range. Brunner and Iris were not there probably because their product was not ready to go public, in beta or other development - they are off the market for me. But there was Roland - the genius - a professional engineer! I saw his full motion sim on YouTube before (www.simprojects.nl) but this time I could test it myself. No competition. Needless to say we want an ffb yoke to make us a better real world pilot. All we ask for is if we pull the yoke then trim it then continue hands off the yoke stays where we left it. Trimming is the essence of flying - nothing is more important to learn about flying yet many new pilots can not do it properly, do not bother and realise they missed the whole point after they move on to instrument rating, so the money is wasted and they have to start learning to fly from the beginning. Sims did not sim it either. Untill now. Roland’s set up does it with a smile on my grumpy face. To cut long story short I've learnt that ffb yoke is just a big piece of hardware. To make it work as described above it needs brains - a software that can live with fsx, the trim, etc. A useless or not properly configured soft will render any hardware useless. That is the challenge for all ffb yoke scientists right now. The MS FSX adds to the problem. Who wants to spend 1k on the hardware and the rest of his life configuring it and troubleshooting? I say, one needs to choose ffb yoke by 1. Software performance (pull-trim-hands off-doesn’t move a dot) 2. Price 3.Deflection range 3. Forces 4. Looks. I can only recommend Roland’s. Although he is still tuning the software - he is ahead in the game. He is Einstein of the flight simming and has no intention to make a business from it. Instead he offered me to contact a person (who was developing the software side) who can recreate his ffb yoke set up for the fractions of the cost of the Brunner Eco unit.

Well guys I'm back from fsweekend Lelystad and have some good news on ffb yokes if you are interested. First I would recommend it to anyone who never been there before visit the nxt year show - you will get many chances to put your hands on the craziest (best in the world) set ups you may only envision and discuss them with the authors - people who are at the top of simming and left no stone unturned. Flight Illusion was there (big respect to you guys!!!) with all three ffb yokes from their range. Brunner and Iris were not there probably because their product was not ready to go public, in beta or other development - they are off the market for me. But there was Roland - the genius - a professional engineer! I saw his full motion sim on YouTube before (www.simprojects.nl) but this time I could test it myself. No competition. Needless to say we want an ffb yoke to make us a better real world pilot. All we ask for is if we pull the yoke then trim it then continue hands off the yoke stays where we left it. Trimming is the essence of flying - nothing is more important to learn about flying yet many new pilots can not do it properly, do not bother and realise they missed the whole point after they move on to instrument rating, so the money is wasted and they have to start learning to fly from the beginning. Sims did not sim it either. Untill now. Roland’s set up does it with a smile on my grumpy face. To cut long story short I've learnt that ffb yoke is just a big piece of hardware. To make it work as described above it needs brains - a software that can live with fsx, the trim, etc. A useless or not properly configured soft will render any hardware useless. That is the challenge for all ffb yoke scientists right now. The MS FSX adds to the problem. Who wants to spend 1k on the hardware and the rest of his life configuring it and troubleshooting? I say, one needs to choose ffb yoke by 1. Software performance (pull-trim-hands off-doesn’t move a dot) 2. Price 3.Deflection range 3. Forces 4. Looks. I can only recommend Roland’s. Although he is still tuning the software - he is ahead in the game. He is Einstein of the flight simming and has no intention to make a business from it. Instead he offered me to contact a person (who was developing the software side) who can recreate his ffb yoke set up for the fractions of the cost of the Brunner Eco unit.

 

What you describe is exactly what the Iris yoke does. Have you even seen the demo videos showing the controller software at work?

 

They are into production now. So yes, there is 'competition'

Not to mention more cost competitive with a crucial hat switch for simulators...

On video... they all do it. Thank you very much.

Will the iris yoke be able to mount to for example a home flight deck chair like the one volair makes? It apparently has mounting points for the saitek yoke.

 

Please pictures

http://www.volairsim.com/#2963

Will the iris yoke be able to mount to for example a home flight deck chair like the one volair makes? It apparently has mounting points for the saitek yoke.

 

Please pictures

http://www.volairsim.com/#2963

Yes,

 

Mounting details on this thread of Iris forums

 

https://forums.irisdynamics.com/showthread.php?tid=40

Hi Chad.

Will the yoke also respond with feedback (shake) for stall, turbulence, bumps and touchdown?

or its only for realistic trim

 

Thanks

So if we did the $100 pre-order, how do we convert to a normal order?  I don't think we got the 25 for discount but I would like to order regardless.

Thank you!

So if we did the $100 pre-order, how do we convert to a normal order?  I don't think we got the 25 for discount but I would like to order regardless.

Thank you!

 

If you get it, pls post a video showing how it works with stall, turbulence etc. Dont want to spend only for trim. thanks.

You only get effects for whatever sim you are using provides. If none - then you get generic effects. From what I read you can get more FFB using FSforce in FSX and P3D.

Any reviews on this product yet? anyone receive a unit yet???

 

Jim

Count me in, hopefully we get the avsim discount...   B)

Looks like they are now shipping! If anyone on this thread gets one first, it would be great to see a first impressions video.

 

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