August 27, 201411 yr I've got a coworker (actually their son) wondering about controls to fly fighter jets in FSX or XP - I like my MS FFB2 stck but they don't make that anymore.What are you guys using? I'd like to keep the price below 500 bucks but I think he could use a throttle too.The kid also mentioned he wanted to learn to fly for real at some point... I'm considering recommending a yoke and throttle quad too..and maybe pedalsI'm using Saitek combat pro pedals, FFB2 stick and CH throttle.... What do you guys like for stick or yoke setups? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 27, 201411 yr Wish there was a stick out there like the MS FFB2. Force feedback joysticks are a dead breed.
August 27, 201411 yr The kid also mentioned he wanted to learn to fly for real at some point... Let him begin flying real aircraft and then he can make a more informed decision what he wants in terms of his simulation needs, he may never get to this point anyway. Saitek yoke/pedals/quadrant is a very cost effective solution. I know RW pilots (I am one) who don't care about any fancy yokes when they are simming because though you me be getting a well made gear - all the force feedback stuff is lacking anyhow. For flying "fighter jets" - there are tons of choices, I would again look at Saitek. Michael J.
August 27, 201411 yr http://www.wraithllc.com/productdetails.html Only 4500 moneys, presuming one will do. https://www.youtube.com/user/JustaRandomSimmer Simulator Videos http://sierra-hotel.blogspot.com Aviation Picture Blog
August 27, 201411 yr Author Well he's a little young so waiting isn't a great option hehe... And 4500 bones... hmmm a bit out of the price range... just a bit - but that looks really nice! I'll go digging some more, thanks all | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 27, 201411 yr I would not hand some young kid a $500 worth of gaming controllers, even if I were Warren Buffet. Michael J.
August 28, 201411 yr Author I'm not paying for them.... anyway I think he's 12-14 I can't remember... that's a decent age to start.... probably where I started. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 28, 201411 yr Only caveat about FFB2 is the lack of buttons, which will quickly run out especially with Miljets. All that aside I've been lucky enough to obtain two units from the same city B) https://www.youtube.com/user/JustaRandomSimmer Simulator Videos http://sierra-hotel.blogspot.com Aviation Picture Blog
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August 28, 201411 yr I'm using Saitek X-55 Rhino HOTAS which recently replaced my CH Products Combat Stick and Pro Throttle - torn as to which of these to recommend - both are pretty decent. Quality of the Saitek is a bit iffy but the programming interface is refined, thought not as flexible as the CH. Features, look and feel of the Rhino are pretty nice and well priced compared to say, the Warthog. Rhino's Hall effect sensors work very well (better than CH's old reliable potentiometers). Using this with the Saitek Pro pedals. Happy enough with these, but I kind of wish I'd sprung for the Combat pedals up front. So I think I'd recommend a Saitek solution - Rhino HOTAS and Combat pedals for the 'under $500' control I/F. (don't forget TrackIR - a 'must have' in my books) [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
August 28, 201411 yr Ryan I just bought 2 MSFF sticks in immaculate as new condition on ebay for $100 Check it out there are usually some available ZORAN
August 29, 201411 yr I reckon nothing drastic is lost using Pros instead of Combats, as they're mechanically pretty much the same AFAIR. Might wanna double-check that from a SimHQ or similar review. https://www.youtube.com/user/JustaRandomSimmer Simulator Videos http://sierra-hotel.blogspot.com Aviation Picture Blog
August 29, 201411 yr I reckon nothing drastic is lost using Pros instead of Combats, as they're mechanically pretty much the same AFAIR. Might wanna double-check that from a SimHQ or similar review. I think you're right - I've read the guts are the same. The combat pedals are closer to what you'd typically see in a fighter (rather than the full foot cradle of the Pros) and I like the extra metal bits too. But given they work pretty much the same way, I'm not about to 'upgrade' for what is primarily a cosmetic difference. So I think they're cooler and therefore wish I'd gone for them initially rather than cheaping out. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
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