A wonderful next project please?

 

 

IIRC PMDG has already stated they won't touch military aircraft.  Sure they had their civilian time, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Maybe some other add-on makers that do more of this stuff would be interested.  I always thought the four rear engines were wonderfully odd.

I love the VC10 but it would be a niché product and therefore PMDG are unlikely to touch it, having got burnt with the MD-11. There is also the issue of having access to aircraft given they are now all retired.

Would be nifty, but I don't think it's exactly in the line of what PMDG does.

I used the 'Addictive' version which was fine in FS9 but only a 'port over' for FSX which was a shame as it contained all the airlines that used the VC-10.  It was a joy to fly and like so many more also a shame that PMDG don't consider what we want and it was an airliner initially.

 

 

EDIT: I was forgetting, It doesn't use an FMC.

Edited October 8, 201411 yr by G7USL

I've never seen that plane before. Which (not to be rude) kinda means PMDG won't make it. I believe Robert stated they'd like to stay on the production of planes that we see every day at the airport. Not necessarily military.

 

Beautiful plane, BTW.

 

 

also a shame that PMDG don't consider what we want

 

You are one person that has shown interest in this product. I also doubt that you would be willing to pay $100+ for this product, but maybe you would. PMDG isn't going to take your word for it and assume since one out of hundreds of thousands (?) of simmers would want this aircraft then clearly it will be a best seller. PMDG is like any other company, they have to make what sells because they have to make a profit to stay alive. This is my response when people ask why there's no MD-11 v2 being created. V1 didn't even sell well, and so there's nothing good that could come from creating it from scratch again when a more popular aircraft could be created. It was a fun thread and everything until you nonchalantly added that PMDG doesn't care about their customer base.

You are one person that has shown interest in this product. I also doubt that you would be willing to pay $100+ for this product, but maybe you would. PMDG isn't going to take your word for it and assume since one out of hundreds of thousands (?) of simmers would want this aircraft then clearly it will be a best seller.

Jeremy, please don't jump down my throat for a topic I only suggested one day ago eh? It WAS only a suggestion and the video was the only one available FYI.  They was used extensively in the past for pax and was the only one that could be used in hotter countries.

 

 

Jeremy, please don't jump down my throat for a topic I only suggested one day ago eh?

 

If anything, he was only reacting to your (what I would consider) a slightly dramatic earlier post of:

 

 

also a shame that PMDG don't consider what we want

 

It's not that they don't consider what "we" want. (If they didn't, then how would they still be in business?)  It's that they don't launch an investigation simply at every suggestion in the forum.  If every one of their users submitted a ticket requesting a VC-10, I'm sure they'd do it.  As it stands, though, with an aircraft that saw limited commercial exposure, with only 54 units built...?

 

The MD-11 sold 200 units, is still relatively well used in the cargo realm, saw reasonable exposure in commercial markets, and sold like molasses on a cold day in Upstate NY for PMDG.  Heck, I'd argue half of your typical American potential buyers would have to Google what a VC-10 is, and that's not a good sign for sales.

 

 

 

They was used extensively in the past for pax and was the only one that could be used in hotter countries.

 

Sure, but so were Douglas DC-8s.  How many of those do you see flying around in the FS world?  Moreover, the DC-8 outsold the VC-10 by 500 units, and outlasted it in the commercial market by about 25 years.  Still, no decent DC-8 out there.

 

The latter statement is somewhat misleading.  The were the only aircraft in certain aircraft fleets that could be used in hotter countries.  While they had notable hot and high performance, they were not the only aircraft that could pull it off.

 

The Boeing 707-220 was available for the role three years prior.  The Convair 880 was also available three years prior, as a purpose-built hot-and-high aircraft offering.  Further still, the DC-9-20 lead it by three years and was a hot-and-high contender (it was purpose-built for SAS for short-field performance, but that translated to better hot-and-high in other areas), though it wasn't comparable in capacity (smaller).  The BAC 1-11 475 was also an option for smaller markets, though not until eight years after the VC-10.

EDIT:

 

For the record, my point wasn't to say that choosing a new product is dependent on American acceptance and intelligence.  It was a point aimed at saying "its core market was limited, and those outside of its market would have to Google it to figure out what it is."  Contrast this with Concorde, which, despite its limited market, had wide recognition; or a Boeing 747, which also has wide recognition, even by people who do not live near hubs that see them often.

a shame that PMDG don't consider what we want...

 

To be honest, PMDG does market research, Ryan has mentioned this a few times in the past. They do tend to listen to the majority, though, not the minority.

 

I was forgetting, It doesn't use an FMC.

There's no reason why that would deter PMDG from building it. (Hence, the DC-6)

A wonderful next project please?

 

As soon as I read the thread title I knew exactly what aircraft you were talking about  B)

 

I'd love to see a high fidelity VC10 in FSX.

 

As wonderful, much loved and long lived aircraft that it was, it's a British aircraft and therefore a large segment of the market have either never heard of it and/or aren't interested in it. That's why most commercial developers won't touch it.

 

Most.

 

You're probably aware of the Just Flight Canberra PR9 that was released earlier this year. If you've got it you'll know just how good it is. It was the first product of a new in-house development team at JF who are finally doing what we've been pestering JF to do for some years now - make some high fidelity British aircraft! They actually announced a VC10 which would be built to the same standard as the Canberra. Unfortunately it's been put on the back burner because of the complexity of the aircraft. Instead the team is currently working on a Tornado GR1, and once that is complete they will hopefully pick up the VC10 again.

 

 

There's no reason why that would deter PMDG from building it. (Hence, the DC-6)

...though, somewhat jokingly, I'd almost argue that the lack of an FMC would automatically cut sales in general because the community seems to be so dependent on the thing.

...though, somewhat jokingly, I'd almost argue that the lack of an FMC would automatically cut sales in general because the community seems to be so dependent on the thing.

Haha, I don't know. I think the Realair and Carenado planes are selling pretty well B)

I belive JustFligt´s internal developement team (which did the Canberra) is planning on doing a VC10. At least that´s what I´ve heared. 

Haha, I don't know. I think the Realair and Carenado planes are selling pretty well B)

 

Selling pretty well as compared to...?

 

I don't know anyone's sales numbers, but you're comparing a different market sector (GA) here.  They might be doing well for themselves with those products, but that doesn't mean that their projects would get them the same amount of profit that PMDG might get from one of their offerings.