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The bar has been raised Rhode Island

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>If FS2004 itself, an entire simulation with multiple sceneries and aircraft - costs around $49 Cdn. today and a single small area, no matter how beautiful, comes out and costs around $50.00 Cdn. all by itself, you don't think that's a "tad" overpriced do you?I sure do. But just another scenery I won't buy because of that. Breaks no new ground at all.

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>I sure do. But just another scenery I won't buy because of>that. Breaks no new ground at all.you can think whatever you want. I might point out this scenery may cost $40 which is what people pay these days for 2 high-end airports. Here you get more than 2 airports and some photoreal terrain to boot. As far as the "new ground" - the weather/seasonal effects on the runways and overall blending of different effects - I have never seen it before. Before this scenery everything was delivered in seperate modules that often clashed with each other - you would get either airport or the ground (photoreal but no autogen please) but never both.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

Michael J.

>believe deserve it, but, $40 for a scenery?, smacks of greedSomehow when another $20 airport is ready for purchase (going rate for Simflyers, Flytampa or Imaginesim airports) you hear very few complaints about the pricing. Barely a squeak. But when a $40 product comes to market which delivers more than 2 airports, plus hundreds of square miles of top notch scenery, custom autogen, seasonal effects on the runways, etc - people are ready to jump off the bridge in protest. I would bet FlightScenery invested way more than 2 times the man-hours to develop their RhodeIsland scenery than for example FlyTampa put in their San Francisco. Shouldn't we consumers be a little more savy and recognize the value rather than go by absolute price? Or do we want to be like small kids that are happy to buy junk provided it is cheap?Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

Michael J.

Hmmm... the advertising rate was $45 US.. just bought it for less than $40 US. Neat!

Even though you have only 16 posts, yours makes more sense than some hysterics with many more posts who have no idea with either the "Free Market" or "Robbery" even mean.Opinions are fine, but some should consult their dictionaries before making fools of themselves.Regards,Jim

And YOU should consult something which is FAR above any opinion, dictionary or definition - MORALS!...have a nice day.John

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everybodies got to make a living... looks like this scenery delivers, sure the price is a little high. but look what you are paying for. If you don't like the idea of paying almost 50 bucks for scenery, don't buy it! On that note, in a few weeks I will be purchasing this. Looks fantastic. Would anybody share the names of smaller airlines that fly into these 3 airports? I'd like to get my AI traffic ready! Thanks

The Point there was... not the "immorality" of high price... Rather.... striking a balance between "Increase price and thus increase total revenue" minus the profit lost due to the reduction in qty sold due to high prices and thus reduction in revenue/profit vs "how much quantity increases every time price declines by a dollar and hence increasing the revenue/profit offset by the decline in profit due to low price.This optimum point is a difficult one to achieve... no doubt.Any manufacturer of a product would/should be interested in the rationale of a consumer when he/she declines a purchase. I explained how I value a product more if it enhanced other flight environment..Piggy backing off other great products. As a flight sim enthusist, I am looking at my flight sim environment in total... not in pieces. The same Airport if it was in the DFW area or in California I would have paid more than even $40. I would value it a lot more then. Simple.I was only trying to help "flight Scenary" for its to my benefit that they survive and make a profit..so they would be in a better position to build more fantastic scenaries like they did for me. I am looking at their following releases... and Except for Spokane nothing appeals to me... cause they are all Isolated airports. Isolated in the sense... there is no other vendors producing products that enhances flight environement as of date.If they were a sloppy company..I could care less about commenting. But I think they are awesome.

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

>flight environment..Piggy backing off other great products. That's so great about this hobby - we all have our priorities and preferences. You are looking for sceneries that complement your Mega sceneries and I am not hindered by and such requirements since I don't own any Mega sceneries - I personally dislike photo-real sceneries and the sharp boundaries they create. I am glad that FlightScenery folks decided to re-examine how else to develop a scenery with better blending in mind. As a matter of fact this $45 product looks to me like a much better buy than a single $20 airport. Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

Michael J.

I agree with you Mike.Especially the one you made about $20 airport alone vs this one. Absolutely ..on the mark.There is no way..I would buy a single airport alone for even $20. However, I did pay for San diego and SFO. Cause...like you said.. they enhanced my other environment. edited to add: Let me also ask you this Mike. For you it makes no difference what airport it is.. it can be an isolated airport and yet it would appeal to you. (at least thats what I understood from your post). But then don't think... it would profit "flight Scenary" if they would pick airports that enhances other vendors... then it would not only appeal to folks like me... it would also appeal to folks like you who don't care for Mega scenary. You are not losing by they picking airports that enhances other vendors products. Right?;)

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

"I sure do. But just another scenery I won't buy because ofthat. Breaks no new ground at all."BREAKS NO NEW GROUND???!!! You have no clue then. The sheer amount of detail (3d objects) and the lack of an impact on performance is something spectacular in itself. I'll give you that price might be to high for some to handle, but don't even go there on the design, this is how all scenery should be done IMO (as a senery designer), great mix of satellite textures in all seasons, full autogen placed realistically, and careful reproduction of the actual 3D environment all at NO impact on performance. I might start flying heavies as PVD is done so well and I can land with no loss to FPS. Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/mcdcvabanner.jpgCalVirAir International

Best, Michael

KDFW

I agree with Mike and Manny actually. The $40US would not be a major issue if it covered an area which I am interested in visiting like New York/Manhattan area but including the two NY airports. It does seem quite clear that this scenery does break new break in its technology of clear texture, smooth blending with the FS environment and high frame rates. The question was more perhaps of the price being worth it, especially seeing that it covers what most would consider a "secondary" area. Of course, for people who like this area and who live in the Rhode Island area, this is heaven, but image paying the cost and then what ? - will you spend all your time flying just in this area especially if you're interested in World traveling like myself?John

I love flying my "iddy biddy Jumbo"

 

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, socket 775/3GHz/1333MHz bus/6MB cache

MOBO: Asus P5E3 Deluxe WiFi-AP@n/Intel X38 chipset

RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX 1333MHz. rated 7-7-7-20, matched pair (2 x 2GB)

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MONITOR: Samsung 24", 2494HM LCD wide-screen 1920x1080

SOUND: SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS

HARD DRIVES: 1xWestern Digital WD1600JD SATA 160GB (primary/Windows XP and system boot drive)

1xWestern Digital WD3200AAJS SATA2 320GB (secondary/Flight Simulator 2004 running off WinXP Pro 32-bit, games video editing drive)

1xWestern Digital 500GB Black series SATA2 (Windows 7 64-bit: FSX is running off Win7; Windows XP Professional 32-bit)

CASE: Antec Sonata III 500W

OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit for FSX; Windows XP Pro 32-bit for other things.

>"Free Market" you say?! No! Actually, it's more like>greediness and highway robbery DISGUISED as a free market! >Please make the distinction.>>One tiny little area which is not even that beautiful as far>as world sceneries go - I'd rather pay that for Paris, or>London or Prague - now those are beautiful! Really now, Rhode>Island? Come on! It is not even worth $20.00 US!>>Johngreed? highway robbery? if someone doesn't want to pay $40 they don't. simple as that. while i wouldn't pay $40 for such a small area, it is the right of the developer to price as they wish and the consumer to buy as they wish. greed and highway robbery should be left to those products consumers have no choice but to buy, ie. gas at the pump, not entertainment add-ons for a flight simulator.

>don't care for Mega scenary. You are not losing by they>picking airports that enhances other vendors products. Right?Manny, to answer your question I am not sure how FlightScenery can "enhance" Mega Sceneries. These are two completely different animals, done completely differently. FlightScenery really enhance the whole FS since it blends well with the rest, whereas photo-real Megas are really in their separate world.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

Michael J.

Of course they enhance Mike. I take off from one of "flight Scenary" airport/scenary, travel enroute mega scenary and mega city and then land in one of Fly Tampa airport/Georender airport.... and no MS default scenary on the way.I am talking about enhancing the flight environment and enhancing the entire trip. (The trip being sufficiantly short). You got to think of the short attention span too. :)

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

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