November 3, 201411 yr hi everyone Im facing 2 problems since the latest service pack of the T7(sp1c). *the first one is that the auto thrust cant keep the speed on short finals it even drops to the yellow bar ( ive tested it almost 10 times in diffrent weather conditions ). *the second one is that when approaching 100-150ft agl, the the aircraft levels off (on manual flight and trim good) and i have to put a good amound of forword input to the yokes. now i assume that the t7 fbw system has a kind of flare mode but in this case it levels off at approx 100 ft agl where i sould be somewhere around 600-750 fpm Anybody having this kind of issues ? Maybe they are not issues and im doing something wrong. Please enlighten me. Thanks in advance EREK CAGRI KARTAL
November 3, 201411 yr Commercial Member Erek, Both of these sound like problems that shipped with the original v1.0 RTM that were resolved with the original version of SP1. My recommendation would be to remove the 777 entirely, delete the dlls from the /Gauges directory. Delete the saved aircraft files from the /PMDG/777X directory and then reinstall. I'm betting you have something wonky stored in an ini or config file that is causing behavior you shouldn't be seeing. Robert S. Randazzo PLEASE NOTE THAT PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at: http://forum.pmdg.com
November 3, 201411 yr Author thanks for quick response Robert, The thing is, i ve already done it yesterday. I ve removed every single pmdg files from my computer. i ve lunched a search for pmdg files in the entire computer in order to make sure that i have a complete reinstall. I have stored my pmdg copies( ngx, t7, t7-300er and all service packs) in a usb stick and the thing that i may do wrong is the istallation sequences. I know that u ve already told us what to do about ''things we sould do before installing service packs''. But im a little confuised about what i did yesterday. After i ve removed avery pmdg file from my computer i ve reinstalled the T7 Base p., the RTM version then sp1c for the -200lr/f and -300er then sp1c for -300er. I skiped the sp1 and sp1b as i ve read somewhere that the sp1c ld update either from RTM or sp1+sp1b to sp1c. Is this maybe the problem? thank you EREK CAGRI KARTAL
November 3, 201411 yr Just a quick side note Erek, did you start FSX and load the T7 then exit between each patch installation? Just trying to help. :-) David warner David Warner
November 3, 201411 yr Commercial Member Just a quick side note Erek, did you start FSX and load the T7 then exit between each patch installation? Just trying to help. :-) David warner Based on how PMDG installs stuff, this procedure won't add anything other than a lot of time. Kyle Rodgers
November 3, 201411 yr Author Just a quick side note Erek, did you start FSX and load the T7 then exit between each patch installation? Just trying to help. :-) David warner no i didnt. thanks EREK CAGRI KARTAL
November 3, 201411 yr Commercial Member no i didnt. thanks You don't need to. You'd be wasting your time by doing this. Kyle Rodgers
November 3, 201411 yr I also seem to be suffering these issues since updating to SP1C. Everything was fine before this.
November 3, 201411 yr Hi, Yep it caught me out as well. Established passing the localizer capturing ILS and all of a sudden find my air speed dropping very quickly so disconnected auto throttle and auto pilot and did a manual landing. Saved the passengers ^_^. Had speed set 161 KTS and then out of the blue she dropped like a brick. Kind regards, Rick Melcher RICK MELCHER Melbourne, Australia Frustrated armchair Pilot
November 3, 201411 yr Author tonight im going to remove every thing and reinstall the t7 untill sp1b. we ll see if it still happens. if yes, the problem is in sp1c (which i doubt). i ll let you know here EREK CAGRI KARTAL
November 3, 201411 yr What addons (besides the 777) are you guys using? Maybe it's something with the weather engine setup or FSUIPC With kind regards, Bogdan Misko.
November 3, 201411 yr Interesting. I took my first flight with sp1c last night and had this happen on approach as well. AT suddenly started to struggle maintaining speed which eventually dropped too low and gave warnings. I had to take manual control of the throttle. This was on final approach. I attributed this to some wind anomaly as it was windy (I use Active Sky Next). However, I never had this happen before with the 777 and it did seem odd. I will do another flight today to see what happens. Regards,Bob Quick
November 3, 201411 yr It would be helpful if people with A/T issues would check and report what A/T mode is showing at the top left of the PFD when the A/T problem arises. Also, I believe a full reinstall starting with the original RTM of Sept. 2013 will leave pre-SP1 panel states that need to be deleted. Check in FSX>PMDG>777X>Panelstates and see if there are any files dated before SP1, or install the RTM, delete all panel states and then install SP1C. Also, make sure you are not starting with a flight that uses a pre-SP1 panel state (including one that you might have saved after SP1 came out but is derived from a pre-SP1 panel state). Mike
November 3, 201411 yr Do you guys use ASN? I've noticed with SP1, approaches are much more choppy and dynamic (not static like default FS). Maybe this has something to do with it. I haven't experienced the issue, but I haven't auto landed in a long time. However, I was flying circuits around PHNL yesterday and it was definitely a dynamic and choppy/windy approach. Alfredo Terrero
November 3, 201411 yr Do you guys use ASN? I've noticed with SP1, approaches are much more choppy and dynamic (not static like default FS). Maybe this has something to do with it. I haven't experienced the issue, but I haven't auto landed in a long time. However, I was flying circuits around PHNL yesterday and it was definitely a dynamic and choppy/windy approach. Wow, me too. I flew this weekend at PHNL with ASN SP1b and it was nearly impossible to land. I need to find the correct settings to tune down.
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