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How hard would this landing be considered? Any tips on landing heavy?

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I was flying a long flight recently, but as i suddenly had to leave i reverted to another airfield, but with too much fuel onboard.

 

Now i think this was a hard landing, how hard would you call this?
Would you call it a bad landing?
Can someone give me tips on how to improve heavy landings?

 

 

Thanks in advance,

Dominique :smile:

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how much fuel?

Which Airport?

I reverted to EHAM, which was only 30 minutes after takeoff :sad:

Fuel onboard was about 80% (I didn't really check the numbers because i had to leave really soon and i just wanted to land)

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Looked like a good landing to me.

 

Every landing that you can walk away from is a good landing :-)

 

-Ray

 

p.s. unless you want to be technical correct, and if this was an emergency you would have to dump fuel and make sure the runway could handle your weight, and length needed to take off again. Refer to the A/FD

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Looked like a good landing to me.

 

Every landing that you can walk away from is a good landing :-)

 

-Ray

 

p.s. unless you want to be technical correct, and if this was an emergency you would have to dump fuel and make sure the runway could handle your weight, and length needed to take off again. Refer to the A/FD

I don't think a 737 can dump fuel, correct me if i'm wrong, but i've never had too much fuel for landing, this was the first time i landed overweight, usually i don't take a lot of fuel with me because i never have time to make flights longer than 1 hour.

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I was flying a long flight recently, but as i suddenly had to leave i reverted to another airfield, but with too much fuel onboard.

 

Now i think this was a hard landing, how hard would you call this?

Would you call it a bad landing?

Can someone give me tips on how to improve heavy landings?

 

 

Thanks in advance,

Dominique :smile:

 

Are you kidding me? Have you ever flown Southwest? SWA does not know the term "Greased Landing". SWA almost has you jump out as they slow to the gate, then they take off from "line up not gonna wait state". Don't get me wrong, I love SWA, fly them every chance I get.

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Dominique,

 

You didn't really flare on this landing - your pretty much established a slow descent and just let the plane fall onto the runway.  You want to pull back (flare) on your yoke and level out just above the runway, then allow your speed to bleed off and and very slowly place the wheels down.

 

Scott. 

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Dominique,

 

You didn't really flare on this landing - your pretty much established a slow descent and just let the plane fall onto the runway. You want to pull back (flare) on your yoke and level out just above the runway, then allow your speed to bleed off and and very slowly place the wheels down.

 

Scott.

Thank you, I was too affraid for a tailstrike, but I'll try to flare better anyways when loaded heavy :smile:

I was going roughly 160 knots, should I try to approach faster when im overloaded? Maybe I can keep my nose a bit lower than.

 

BTW, I know you. I came straight from the A2A forums to the Avsim forums :smile:

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It is hard to say if this was a hard landing or not. The 737 as well as every jet airliner has a vertical speed and a max g load limit at which the aircraft is certified to land. Everything beyond this limit is considered to be a hard landing.

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I've done much worse...

 

I wouldn't worry so much. You're going fast, and the stopping things don't work too well when the wheels aren't touching the ground. Stopping is more important than elegance. Do you know roughly what the VSI said?

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Dominique,

 

Here is a 2-minute video one of our members (flight instructor) posted a while back that does a great job demonstrating his landing technique using a Cessna Skyhawk, that can be applied to most aircraft.  I think a lot of the time flight simmers / pilots don't think to level the plane off first, as part of their flare, before finally touching down.  This step makes a big difference in getting a really soft landing.

 

 

Scott.

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Dominique,

 

Here is a 2-minute video one of our members (flight instructor) posted a while back that does a great job demonstrating his landing technique using a Cessna Skyhawk, that can be applied to most aircraft.  I think a lot of the time flight simmers / pilots don't think to level the plane off first, as part of their flare, before finally touching down.  This step makes a big difference in getting a really soft landing.

 

 

Scott.

I know, i've seen the video before :smile:

Keep in mind that I was asking about an overweight landing, not a normal landing  ^_^

I don't usually land overweight, but when i do (or need to do), i was looking for some tips so i did not have to approach at either 200 knots, strike the tail or smash down like i did in my video :smile:

About the topic moving, i don't really understand this time  :mellow:

It wasn't about the video, i just used the video as example.

 

It was about a serious question about making overweight landings in jets in FSX.

 

I'll ask about it somewhere later.

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You didn't crash so that's ok, isnt it? =)

 

Looks to me like you were flying too slow and was too close to stall. Flying too slow will make you look like you're flaring pretty far from the point where a flare is usually performed (around 50 ft). In other words: you could have increased your approach speed.

 

What was your rate of descent at touch down? Looked like it was about 300-400 FPM, which really isnt too bad.

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You didn't crash so that's ok, isnt it? =)

 

Looks to me like you were flying too slow and was too close to stall. Flying too slow will make you look like you're flaring pretty far from the point where a flare is usually performed (around 50 ft). In other words: you could have increased your approach speed.

 

What was your rate of descent at touch down? Looked like it was about 300-400 FPM, which really isnt too bad.

That was kind of a problem here - i was already going 160 knots  :wacko:

Anyways, i didn't blow up  :lol:

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