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VC shadows in Majestic Dash 8 Q400

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I cant seem to find any information on this. In Prepar3D there is cockpit shadows for sure, but what about FSX DX10?

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I'm thinking like this type of cockpit shadows, not the reflection on the panels when the aircraft is turning. Do you have this?

 

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Did you read the DX10 fixer manual on enabling aircraft shadows?

Is aircraft shadows enabled in FSX? The default Maule aircraft is a good check to see if it is.

If the Maule shows interior shadows,

You have to make changed to the interior model file of the Dash-8 

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Did you read the DX10 fixer manual on enabling aircraft shadows?

Is aircraft shadows enabled in FSX? The default Maule aircraft is a good check to see if it is.

If the Maule shows interior shadows,

You have to make changed to the interior model file of the Dash-8 

 

I don't own the Majestic Dash Q400. I just want to make sure if I buy it. 

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They only work in P3D. The dash and main panel shadows don't show in FSX with Steves dx10 fixer. They work everywhere else in the cockpit like the seats for example… this is with the interior model fix.

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They only work in P3D. The dash and main panel shadows don't show in FSX with Steves dx10 fixer. They work everywhere else in the cockpit like the seats for example… this is with the interior model fix.

 

Thanks! I tried the "activate VC Shadows" function with the DX10 fixer, but it only gives me some weird shadows over the panels. 

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I think the majestic dash issue is legacy so built with fs8 sdk.

 

I would start with force vc walls from the shadow dialog leave hd shadows off initially, set ForceVCShadowMap in fsx.cfg and the tick the two shadows options in the legacy dialog and see how it goes. But remember not to leave these settings set on with other aircraft.

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Slightly of topic, if that is what the clouds look like in P3D v2.3, no thanks. Scenery is great though.

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I think the majestic dash issue is legacy so built with fs8 sdk.

 

I would start with force vc walls from the shadow dialog leave hd shadows off initially, set ForceVCShadowMap in fsx.cfg and the tick the two shadows options in the legacy dialog and see how it goes. But remember not to leave these settings set on with other aircraft.

Wait, so you're saying that you CAN get shadows working on the main panel? 

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I am a suggesting that the settings above maximise the chances of getting a legacy aircraft to work - I don't have the dash 8.

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I am a suggesting that the settings above maximise the chances of getting a legacy aircraft to work - I don't have the dash 8.

 

Did not work, sorry.

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I am a suggesting that the settings above maximise the chances of getting a legacy aircraft to work - I don't have the dash 8.

 

 

Hi again! For some reason I now get VC shadows when un-ticking the box called "Force VC Shadows". I saw someone having trouble getting VC shadows in the Piper PA-28 and this helped. So I tried it in the Majestic Dash Q400 as well and it worked. But, I'm not quite sure whether the shadows I'm observing are "correct". Seems to be a lot of stuff such as wires, spots etc moving across the whole cockpit. I can post pictures if desirable. 

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I think the majestic dash issue is legacy so built with fs8 sdk.

Steve, correct me if I'm wrong but the FSX SDK would deliver two separate model files, one for the externals and one for the VC, right?

 

If that's the case, the new Q400 (mind you, they also offer a fairly old Q300, maybe you had that one in mind) offers both and I confirm that she shows shadows in the VC with your fine fixer tool and no legacy options ticket. Just like any FSX aircraft.

 

Seems to be a lot of stuff such as wires, spots etc moving across the whole cockpit.

Try enabling 'force VC Walls', that should cure the shadows coming from the overhead buttons and dials. You can leave that enabled for all aircraft from my experience. No downside so far.

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Steve, correct me if I'm wrong but the FSX SDK would deliver two separate model files, one for the externals and one for the VC, right?

 

If that's the case, the new Q400 (mind you, they also offer a fairly old Q300, maybe you had that one in mind) offers both and I confirm that she shows shadows in the VC with your fine fixer tool and no legacy options ticket. Just like any FSX aircraft.

 

Try enabling 'force VC Walls', that should cure the shadows coming from the overhead buttons and dials. You can leave that enabled for all aircraft from my experience. No downside so far.

 

No, if you read my previous post you can see that I got VC shadows to work by UN-ticking this box. If I tick it, all VC shadows disappear.

 

I first tried this with the A2A Cherokee 180 and it worked, so I tested with the Dash Q400 as well. Its strange that I get VC shadows by unticking this box though.

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No, if you read my previous post you can see that I got VC shadows to work by UN-ticking this box.

Ok, lets clear the terms up. I spoke about 'force VC walls', your texts, as far as I can see, always tackled the 'force VC shadows' option.

 

Next, there seems to be another issue. Are you using any of those legacy options/modes Steve suggested? I think his advise was aimed at the older Q300 from Majestic and may, therefore, not apply to your Q400 which is a current FSX standard (SDK) aircraft.

 

So, in the correct context (read: no legacy mode or options active), the force VC walls option is the one disabling the shadows from the overhead buttons, as intended. It'll cause a uniform shadow from the overhead surface, which is good.

 

As for the rest of the Q400, she works just fine (I just ran a test flight) and if you don't receive this result, perhaps start over with uninstalling the Fixer and libraries.

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Ok, lets clear the terms up. I spoke about 'force VC walls', your texts, as far as I can see, always tackled the 'force VC shadows' option.

 

Next, there seems to be another issue. Are you using any of those legacy options/modes Steve suggested? I think his advise was aimed at the older Q300 from Majestic and may, therefore, not apply to your Q400 which is a current FSX standard (SDK) aircraft.

 

So, in the correct context (read: no legacy mode or options active), the force VC walls option is the one disabling the shadows from the overhead buttons, as intended. It'll cause a uniform shadow from the overhead surface, which is good.

 

As for the rest of the Q400, she works just fine (I just ran a test flight) and if you don't receive this result, perhaps start over with uninstalling the Fixer and libraries.

 

Sorry for the confusion, I meant the "force VC walls" option actually. I did what you said, and it worked - finally. Even the PA-28 casts cockpit shadows with this option now. But what does the legacy options do really? I doesn't seem to affect anything anyways...

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Good news. :smile:

 

Re: the use of legacy options, I think those apply when you have a model without a dedicated model file for the VC (the FS9 ports only have one model file) and/or some textures/materials which are not bound to the FSX standard. Details and workarounds in the manual.

 

Means that you can most likely skip all the legacy stuff for your planes if you are using somehow current ones.

 

When it comes to scenery, there could be more cases if a dev for example sticks to FS9 means due to his policy. But I think the Fixer already fixes most known elements, so maybe very old scenery, which does not benefit from simply converting the textures with the DX10 toolbox, is in need for any legacy settings.

 

As you see, it could well be that these are fairly rare cases.

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CoolIP is entirely correct.

 

Almost any aircraft built with the current FSX SDK (with a separate VC model) will have VC Shadows provided the 4 points on page 55 of the manual are true. One exception is the PMDG 737NGX which has a box around the VC which prevents shadows.

 

A legacy aircraft built with the FS8 SDK will appear grey and untextured at night without the fixer libraries installed. For these old aircraft it is still possible to have VC shadows using the legacy settings. The legacyshadow settings may interfere with shadowing on other aircraft so I suggest the creation of a separate DX10SF profile if you have any of these.

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Thats exactly what I did, and its working perfectly fine. Thanks for the input, really didn't think I could get this good looking shadows in the Q400.

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Can you post a screenshot... and maybe repeat the steps in order to get the shadows working in laymans terms?

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Can you post a screenshot... and maybe repeat the steps in order to get the shadows working in laymans terms?

 

Sure, I will do it later today np

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Hey Fi5KuS I would be great full too if you could post those steps too, :BigGrin:

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