December 10, 201411 yr Moderator Anyway Wobbie, either you are extremely luck (1 in a million), or the errors have been there but you did not realize why they happened. Think you hit the nail on the head. However, if it works for you Wobbie - stay with it but please do not tell others that it makes no difference. It does, just not on your system - yet. The errors MAY not happen - it really depends on your software but given the right circumstances, it will - period. BTW, your statement that all UAC does is nag couldn't be farther from the truth. That's just the visible part. Do some research on both topics. It isn't just flight sims that have the issue. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
December 10, 201411 yr Methinks I am lucky with all my sims & computers by not having any errors & issues at all, neither our guys at our VA club. Maybe its the air here in South Africa. Lol. Anyhow, to each their own. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
December 10, 201411 yr Moderator Methinks I am lucky with all my sims & computers by not having any errors & issues at all, neither our guys at our VA club. Maybe its the air here in South Africa. Lol. Anyhow, to each their own. LOL! Just OOC - are you using the English speaking version of Windows? I don't recall anyone specifically pointing at the English version but I've seen specific language versions react differently in a lot of areas - perhaps this falls into that basket. As you said - to each their own. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
December 10, 201411 yr From my Android phone, Vic. ;-) Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
December 10, 201411 yr Moderator From my Android phone, Vic. ;-) LOL.I meant which version of windows are you running with your sim? RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
December 11, 201411 yr Lol,.. I'm using both W7 & W8.1 on my personal PC's, W7 on the sims that we have built up, & a combination of W7 on about 20 PC's at our Virtual Club. There, I just cloned an install, copied across, sorted out the registry & all has always worked. Also, never had any issues with non sim programs as well. :-) Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
December 11, 201411 yr Moderator Then, for pete's sake, don't change a thing!!! :-) Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
December 11, 201411 yr Author I will be applying the spinning clouds fix Rob and LM provided. In the mean time, can someone please tell me how to fix the tearing graphic issue I have? When I pan around I see tearing. I have Vsync enabled; and using Full Screen Mode. Do I need to add anything to the CFG, or do I need to install NVidia Inspector ? Ricky Torbe
December 11, 201411 yr I note by your font style a degree of stress may be creeping into your endeavors? The big incentive to make a leap will be a 64bit version of P3D - please wake me up when that eventuates....
December 11, 201411 yr Author I note by your font style a degree of stress may be creeping into your endeavors? The big incentive to make a leap will be a 64bit version of P3D - please wake me up when that eventuates.... Something seems to be wrong with my browser this morning. Sorry about the font size. Hey, I was reluctant to move to P3D; but honestly, let me say this... This thing is beautiful !. Yes, it's by far better than FSX- in both performance and looks. The FPS I'm getting is insanely high.. I hope I'm not doing something wrong. LoL And with the Russian Migration Tool, I'm moving all of my FSX stuff to P3D. The only thing that is bothering me a bit right now is some tearing; but I'm sure there is a fix. So, hang on; don't loose faith. Ricky Torbe
December 11, 201411 yr Methinks I am lucky with all my sims & computers by not having any errors & issues at all Wobbie, Why do you think so many 3rd party devs recommend Not installing into the default location. Some 3rd party apps written pre Vista /Win7simply cannot write to their data files to the correct locations when FSX/P3D is installed in Program Files(X86) some of these Apps no nothing about the Virtual store and so will simply fail to work as expected. The Authors of FSCommander explain it thus: For applications installed under C:\ Program Files (x86) which generate files for the outside world (= other applications), Vista and Windows 7/8.x place these file into a virtual store which other applications may know nothing about. Consequently, the other applications may look for these files in a specific folder which, however, does not contain the expected file.
December 11, 201411 yr In practice, I have not known this to ever happen. I have thrown so much & so many programs & add-ons at my PC, even FSCommander, without any problems. Also, a lot of older sophisticated addons into my P3D as well as my FSX. All my PC addons also go into my (86) default directory.. That is where they want to go. Same as on my W8 laptop. Yes, FSCommander has always worked well from its default directory! In fact, there are a lot of devs that say to drop UAC before installing. In all the years I've had my FSX, W7 & W8, without any issues at all, I'm not going to change, unless proved wrong. BTW, can you tell of any addons that you have come across that have caused issues when installed in default directories? Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
December 11, 201411 yr Thank you Christopher... Methinks this installing to other directories is actually just an urban legend perpetuated & repeated by so many guys without even trying it. ALL UAC does is Nag! Nothing else. Oh it does so much more, in fact it's never really "off" even when you turn it "off" ... you are really just reducing the warnings. The reality is that Microsoft has built themselves a very buggy construct with UAC ... it was born out of that magical word "compatibility". What can (and does happen) when UAC blocks execution of whatever it is someone is trying to execute, it can and does report "no error". In fact, many times I've debugged code that triggers an exception (error) with an error code = 0 (which is supposed to mean there is no error ... and this is with all managed code too, unmanaged good luck). Most of the time (not all the time) this ends up being a security related issue ... Microsoft in their wisdom don't like to make it easy for hackers and since hackers are programmers on a mission gone bad, Microsoft decided to return little or no information of why something was blocked ... don't give the hacker any clues, which unfortunately also means don't give honest programmers any clues either. The UAC (can't really be turned off) issue has caused some headaches for a few 3rd party products. So installing to something (another driver/directory) where the UAC is less "active" is a good idea ... simply because Windows is not perfect and is a product of human engineering. Cheers, Rob.
December 11, 201411 yr Author In practice, I have not known this to ever happen. I have thrown so much & so many programs & add-ons at my PC, even FSCommander, without any problems. Also, a lot of older sophisticated addons into my P3D as well as my FSX. All my PC addons also go into my (86) default directory.. That is where they want to go. Same as on my W8 laptop. Yes, FSCommander has always worked well from its default directory! In fact, there are a lot of devs that say to drop UAC before installing. In all the years I've had my FSX, W7 & W8, without any issues at all, I'm not going to change, unless proved wrong. BTW, can you tell of any addons that you have come across that have caused issues when installed in default directories? Wait a second guys: My questions are not being answered cause you are all worried about Wobbie. So............. ......... Wobbie, Look, Here's the thing, man. Part of the sim excitement is having to tweak and fix errors. Period. So, if you are not having any tweaking nor fixing errors, I guarantee you, you are missing the fun part, Big Time. So, send me your email and I'll ship you some errors. LoL . (But on a serious note, if you have never had any errors, that is very unusual. I just reinstalled REX4 and even those guys have a big red sign NOT to install stuff on Programs x86.) Ricky Torbe
December 11, 201411 yr I switched over to P3D and I haven't encounter any issue. I didn't use any shaders with DX10. All was smooth and stable. The only problem is that I keep coming back fo my PMDG plane. David. I switched over to P3D and I haven't encounter any issue. I didn't use any shaders with DX10. All was smooth and stable. The only problem is that I keep coming back fo my PMDG plane. David. I switched over to P3D and I haven't encounter any issue. I didn't use any shaders with DX10. All was smooth and stable. The only problem is that I keep coming back fo my PMDG plane. David. David J Guillen Intel Core i7-6850k CPU @ 4.1 O/C GeForce GTX 1080 TI l Sony 4k Ultra HD 48" Window 7/64 l 16GB RAM
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