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"If I had a hundred dollars" - newbie advice requested!

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Hello to all you fine X-Plane folk, thanks to the recent Steam sale, I have now become one of you. ^_^

 

I've spent the few days since the sale familiarizing myself with the sim, and with what freeware is available.  I've installed the NA region only for now, as well as CZST.  I spent some time downloading and trying out a few of the freeware aircraft available (my favorite so far being the amazing 2D C172 panel, I've never really been a fan of 2D panels before, but wow...), and then I moved on to installing some of the HD Mesh covering western Canada & south Alaska, as well as a few of the other recommended enhancements, such as Treelines & Farms, and the world2xp Canada OSM+AG download.

 

There are a few other freeware sceneries I mean to install yet, but haven't gotten around to, such as that amazing looking freeware Juneau.

 

So now, I'm looking for advice.  Let's say I have about $100 I'm willing to spend on making my X-Plane world a little more 'spiffy'.  I'm not talking about aircraft add-ons here, since I have very specific plans on what I want to buy there.  My preferences are as follows:

 

- Mainly GA flying, into and out of small airports.

- Northwestern part of North America is where I wish to stay for now.

 

So keeping those two criteria in mind, if you were me, where would you spend $100?  What's worthwhile?

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I will be following this one. I want to try out Xplane, and this could be an interesting thread.

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for what your looking for i think skymax and urbanmax are the right products for you. you should have some money left over even if you get both of those

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for what your looking for i think skymax and urbanmax are the right products for you. you should have some money left over even if you get both of those

SkyMax Pro for sure...but I (I own both) think that UrbanMaxx (which I have removed) is no longer needed if you populate Tony's W2XP files through SimHeaven

 

http://simheaven.com/

 

for not only countries, but for continents as well. I downloaded SimHeaven's W2XP file for North America (U.S. files as well as Canada)...and it has transformed it to the most plausible view-scape to date. I found that UrbanMaxx was conflicting with it...and not allowing W2XP files to be displayed properly, where cities and towns were concerned. If you are NOT going to install W2XP files (country and REGIONS...) then yes...definately UrbanMaxx is a must...  

 

So, SkyMax Pro is on the must-have list...  Other than that...your hundred dollars would be for airports and aircraft....and speaking of aircraft...having a great (Carenado for one..) Amphibian air-frame will allow you all the great marine flights within XP.40b1 Carenado puts out a great Cessna SkyWagon F185 series...

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I downloaded SimHeaven's W2XP file for North America...and it has transformed it to the most plausible view-scape to date. I found that UrbanMaxx was conflicting with it...and not allowing W2XP files to be displayed properly. If you are NOT going to install W2XP files (country and REGIONS...) then yes...definately UrbanMaxx is a must...

 

 

The W2xp osm+ag file from Simheaven is the one I was referring to, that yes, I have installed.  I thought I'd seen somewhere in the forums that UrbanMaxx conflicts with it, it might of been one of your posts. Thanks!

 

Further question:  On the Simheaven site, there's both the W2XP sceneries, as well as the OSM continent sceneries.  Do they both need to be installed? Or does the W2XP scenery replace the OSM continent scenery??

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The W2xp osm+ag file from Simheaven is the one I was referring to, that yes, I have installed.  I thought I'd seen somewhere in the forums that UrbanMaxx conflicts with it, it might of been one of your posts. Thanks!

 

Further question:  On the Simheaven site, there's both the W2XP sceneries, as well as the OSM continent sceneries.  Do they both need to be installed? Or does the W2XP scenery replace the OSM continent scenery??

They both need to be installed (by that meaning, only if you intend to fly in that country, or that region in general.  I'm sure you downloaded all of the U.S. and Canada regions files, yes?  That for sure.  I have also selected only those countries (Europe) that I have interest to fly...so that has been my M.O. ^_^  

 

You also installed the W2XP world Scenery Models (found at the bottom of the continent list, right?  This is not optional. It is required for proper display of object calls...

 

Have a blast...and welcome to XP! I think you are going to find that it is the LEAST cost of usage and ownership, you will have amongst your other sims...

 

Ses

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Further question:  On the Simheaven site, there's both the W2XP sceneries, as well as the OSM continent sceneries.  Do they both need to be installed? Or does the W2XP scenery replace the OSM continent scenery??

 

No, only install one or the other. W2XP is more detailed and might be harder on frames. Having both installed is a waste of space and increases loading times. Both block each other out

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No, only install one or the other. W2XP is more detailed and might be harder on frames. Having both installed is a waste of space and increases loading times. Both block each other out

Yes, Tony..but there is no W2XP for the U.S. and Canada, right?

 

I then correctly told him..for Europe, install the countries, for the U.S. and Canada, install the continent(s).  I think he was referring to the W2XP continent sceneries , and not the non-W2XP ones... It was those that I said must also be installed to cover N.A.

 

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Yes, Tony..but there is no W2XP for the U.S. and Canada, right?

 

Yep there is, http://simheaven.com/?page_id=3260. The problem is the lack of data in these parts of the world.

 

Remember Simheaven's OSM scenery and W2XP use the same data source (Although W2XP's is probably newer). W2XP just uses more from the available data. So it's pointless having both installed in the same area.

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Yep there is, http://simheaven.com/?page_id=3260. The problem is the lack of data in these parts of the world.

 

Remember Simheaven's OSM scenery and W2XP use the same data source (Although W2XP's is probably newer). W2XP just uses more from the available data. So it's pointless having both installed in the same area.

Gotcha...ok...

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I appreciate all the advice, I really do!  I'm running the W2XP osm-ag download available on Simheaven for Canada, so I guess I'm set for that.  I played around extensively last night checking scenery with and without the various layers, so that I could learn what the differences were!

 

(A side note:  I actually hit a small thing last night that made me shake my head when I figured it out.  I've been exploring scenery by loading at an airport, then using the 'free camera' view to zoom around and check things out.  Well, I didn't realize that the scenery loads around the aircraft, not the camera, so when I got to the limits of where the scenery objects had loaded, I thought I had major issues... took me a bit to figure that out! :blush: )

 

As for the OSM data not being complete for North America, it's actually surprising at how complete it's gotten.  It's hit or miss for sure, but some small little northern places that I thought wouldn't be mapped out have almost every building mapped!  Even my city, Edmonton, has a huge number of buildings mapped out. 

 

I've read through Tony's tutorials on adding OSM data, and I also realized something.  I've spent hours days weeks creating .agn files for FSX photoreal, largely creating building footprints through QGIS.  I think now that was very short sighted of me; I'd of been much more benefit to the flight sim community at large if I would of been contributing those building footprints to OSM.  I'm going to give some of my scenery creation workflows a major re-think....

 

I've also downloaded and set up WED.  It looks easy enough to use.  There sure are a lot of airports in X-Plane in need of work in my part of the world.  Is there any way of converting ADE work files to use in WED?

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Well, I didn't realize that the scenery loads around the aircraft, not the camera, so when I got to the limits of where the scenery objects had loaded, I thought I had major issues... took me a bit to figure that out!

 

You certainly won't be the first to do this  :Whistle: . I spent a few hours once when writing World2XPlane trying to work out why some buildings or roads weren't showing up. Turned out it was just me panning around and being too far away.

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I too recently picked up X-Plane on Steam and mainly fly in North America & Europe. I have the HDMesh V3 for the areas I fly and I have been blown away. I mainly like to fly airliners and have the excellent FF 757 & JARDesign A330 in my hanger. I flew from Innsbruck to EGGW (London Luton) last night in the 330. I spent most of the cruise looking out of the windows lol Just stunning !!!

 

All of the airports I downloaded have been free ones and I am amazed at the quality. Getting back on topic I would definitely go for Skymaxx Pro. I also just got the Carenado B1900D as I wanted to get into some more regional flying in Canada. I am really liking this plane and it fits perfectly when I don't have hours to spend flying a longer route.

 

FSX with DX10 has served me well but I have to say I have been spending more time in X-Plane, I finally have a sim that can use the hardware I invested in. Even better BAVirtual now have an ACARS client that supports X-Plane.

 

Oh happy days :) 

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Just get the Real Terra Haze plugin over at The Org

 

Holy crap.  I was thinking about Skymaxx, but those clouds shadows....  I'm not a P3D user, so I haven't had those 'til now.

 

That's an incredible plugin.

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UrbanMAXX just changes the ground textures, so it doesn't conflict with W2XP. OSM scenery just populates the scenery with facade (autogen buildings), vegetation and defines where streets, urban areas, forests, etc. are. With UrbanMAXX, you'll see more realistic ground textures in urban areas, that's. It's cheap as well, and together with SkyMaxx Pro v2, it's what I would call essential for XPX. The fantastic scenery you get from simheaven is donation ware! It's that good and its surely a lot of work to create it, so I'd encourage you to donate some money through the website. An external program I use on every XPX flight is EFASS. It is a very good flight planning tool, a moving map, source of information (about airports, airfields, etc.), injects the weather, etc. The developer doesn't seem to update the program anymore, but in its current state, it's perfectky usable and very handy!

All the best and a warm welcome to the most realistic flight simulator out there! ;-)

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Holy crap.  I was thinking about Skymaxx, but those clouds shadows....  I'm not a P3D user, so I haven't had those 'til now.

 

That's an incredible plugin.

SkyMaxx Pro has fabulous clouds...and with the new E-DSF, I had cloud shadows being displayed out upon Lake Ontario...over 25 miles away...check out my pics...and you will see them darken the lake water...amazing!

UrbanMAXX just changes the ground textures, so it doesn't conflict with W2XP. OSM scenery just populates the scenery with facade (autogen buildings), vegetation and defines where streets, urban areas, forests, etc. are. With UrbanMAXX, you'll see more realistic ground textures in urban areas, that's. It's cheap as well, and together with SkyMaxx Pro v2, it's what I would call essential for XPX. The fantastic scenery you get from simheaven is donation ware! It's that good and its surely a lot of work to create it, so I'd encourage you to donate some money through the website. An external program I use on every XPX flight is EFASS. It is a very good flight planning tool, a moving map, source of information (about airports, airfields, etc.), injects the weather, etc. The developer doesn't seem to update the program anymore, but in its current state, it's perfectky usable and very handy!

All the best and a warm welcome to the most realistic flight simulator out there! ;-)

Yeah..it does...run UrbanMaxx and W2XP textures at North Bay Ontario...check out the blotcheness and incomplete W2XP objects. Now...remove UrbanMaxx from the folder...and fire up the same airport and a fly over of the town...and you have proper W2XP streets, populated by the great home objects, and not truncated in the towns and cities.  UrbanMaxx sure does inhibit the W2XP object calls and placements.  Again....do an A/B test at North Bay, Ontario, Canada...fly over downtown, and the water front....and you'll see a massive difference....

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WOW!  This thread is also just for me as I just installed x-plane 10 and am as I write this downloading the World1xplane files for France.

 

I just had one to many problems with the FSX blurries (and I am sure you know what I mean).  I either want to find another sim to replace it, or I may give up a 20 year hobby and passion.

 

Would look forward to any suggestions for GA planes, either payware or free downloads.

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WOW!  This thread is also just for me as I just installed x-plane 10 and am as I write this downloading the World1xplane files for France.

 

I just had one to many problems with the FSX blurries (and I am sure you know what I mean).  I either want to find another sim to replace it, or I may give up a 20 year hobby and passion.

 

Would look forward to any suggestions for GA planes, either payware or free downloads.

I'd start with two...payware:

 

1:  Carenado SkyMaster C337 high-wing for exceptional tour and G.A. duty.  Dual push/pull prop, in-line beam, great handling...10 star all -round.

 

2: For water, tunda, ski all of it...also Carenado's SkyWagon C185F v3.0 package.  You need the base plane, and then you pick up the Extension Package for it, that gives you Ski, Amphib, Float, Tundra out-fitting.

 

There are other great options by other Dev's for turbo-single and multi, Big Iron, commuter...and others that have these planes will chime in....but for G.A....you have many with Carenado...Baron 58, Saratoga, 208B Caravan, the Cessna 510 Mustang...on and on...I have a stable full of 'em! :)

 

Have fun...

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Well, I would say for Amphibian and small GA stuff I would now say: Get teh new DHC-2 Beaver from SoulMadeSim.

 

Other good GA Planes would b the vFlyteAir Piper Arrow III

 

Or if you want to get near A2A Quality (not quite in the form of graphics) you could buy the Carenado CT210 and the Reality Expansion Pack from simCoders that pushes the CT210 from a rather mediocre plane to a wholöe new level. But I would probably still wait till they had more time for updates.

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Just to prove you made a good decision  :-)  .....

 

Enroute from EGCC to LEAL in the excellent FF 757

 

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And the return trip today in the awesome Jardesign A330

 

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a330_4_zpsgcgbv7kp.png

 

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Just to prove you made a good decision  :-)  .....

 

Enroute from EGCC to LEAL in the excellent FF 757

 

757RR-300_1_zpsnagptoae.png

 

757RR-300_4_zps4puglsdp.png

 

757RR-300_1_zpsnagptoae.png

And the return trip today in the awesome Jardesign A330

 

a330_2_zpsjip2btj8.png

 

a330_4_zpsgcgbv7kp.png

 

a330_3_zpssnnswnqd.png

Simply stunning snaps...totally life-like!

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I've flown many virtual aircrafts, but never airliner. Now I want to start with them. And I don't really know what plane to buy. I want it to have 3d cockpit, good textures and that it would be good step for beginners. I've read some of reviews and end up with deciding whether to put FlightFactor Airbus A350-900 in shopping basket? Price 50 $ is acceptable. Any suggestions? 

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I've flown many virtual aircrafts, but never airliner. Now I want to start with them. And I don't really know what plane to buy. I want it to have 3d cockpit, good textures and that it would be good step for beginners. I've read some of reviews and end up with deciding whether to put FlightFactor Airbus A350-900 in shopping basket? Price 50 $ is acceptable. Any suggestions? 

 

I also considered the FF A350 too, the lack of support  of SIDS/STARS put me off. This is supposed to be addressed in a future release but I'm not sure if to date it has been done.

 

As you will see from my post above I have both the FF 757  & JARDesign A330. They are both great aircraft and very in depth so it will take some time time to master them both. I would say that the A330 is a little easier to learn. The flight model is fantastic and it is a dream to hand fly. So much so I find myself engaging autopilot much later on departure and disengaging much sooner on arrival. I even hand flew the entire SID into runway 33R at CYYZ recently, something I have never done before in eith FSX or P3D

 

Just my 2 cents worth ....

Simply stunning snaps...totally life-like!

Thank You  B)

 

All freeware mesh (HDMesh V3)

 

I was a bit daunted at first when starting with X-Plane as out of the box it is a very baron simulator. A little research online and so much freeware now makes this a very nice place to be. At last my purpose built flight sim rig can really shine.

 

The X-Plane community is fantastic too.

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You frequent X-Plane users correct me if I'm wrong but as I read the "If I had a hundred dollars" title, I was thinking that one doesn't actually need to spend many dollars (well, except for the base sim of course) for entering the the XP spheres and get a lot of fun out of it.

 

The reason being that most parts to enhance XP come as free or donation ware (worth spending there) while only special locations and planes would require you to get some payware.

 

So you can literally stay with the base for the longest time while flying Real Terra Haze over excellent W2XP scenery and now even get some 25.000 airports up to good default standards.

 

Perhaps this "cheap" entry level is the element blocking some payware devs to join the game but, from a starter's perspective, it's actually awesome and also leaves you with some money to spend on lets say optional things. Pretty neat. :smile:

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