July 27, 201510 yr EU law gives consumers generally the right to cancel within a 14 day period without giving any reason. However there are are limitations on software.For software provided on disk, you'll loose your right to cancel if you unseal the software.For downloaded software, sellers mustn’t supply digital content, within the 14 day cancellation period, unless you have given your express consent to this happening. You must also acknowledge that once the download starts you will lose your right to cancel. If you don’t give you consent, you'll to wait until the cancellation period has ended before you can download the digital content. This is to ensure the digital content is what you want before downloading it. Also, the fact you loose you right when the download starts. I also think probably means that if the download doesn't complete then it's your problem rather than the sellers - the seller can't really be responsible for the performance of your ISP etc.UK version is here http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/3134/pdfs/uksi_20133134_en.pdf Gerry Howard
July 27, 201510 yr We've had this in Sweden for many years for physical products (with some exceptions). Time limit varies from one store to another but usually is somewhere between 10 days and 1 month. Obviously for software, DVDs/BDs/CDs and etc they have to have unbroken seal to be eligible for return. In Sweden we call it öppet köp (option to return).
July 27, 201510 yr Author Sweden is iin the EU so I assume it's effectively the same laws which are all based on EU Directive 2011/83/EU. the UK regulations were updated in 2014 Gerry Howard
July 28, 201510 yr Moderator In the U.S. I once returned an opened software box for full refund. My reason? I didn't accept the EULA, which as I pointed out was sealed inside the bloody box! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 29, 201510 yr In the U.S. I once returned an opened software box for full refund. My reason? I didn't accept the EULA, which as I pointed out was sealed inside the bloody box! What was the software? i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB
July 29, 201510 yr Moderator Does anyone actually read EULAs? (A certain episode of South Park comes to mind)
July 29, 201510 yr Does anyone actually read EULAs? (A certain episode of South Park comes to mind) I just feel sorry for the poor sods that have it as a first name....
July 29, 201510 yr Author In the U.S. I once returned an opened software box for full refund. My reason? I didn't accept the EULA, which as I pointed out was sealed inside the bloody box! And you still can in principle. The EU law extends the protection offered to consumers. It gives consumers the general right to cancel a distance or off-premises at any time in the cancellation period without giving any reason. It also makes the supplier responsible for the costs of returning goods. Ithe purpose is to give the consumer time to have second-thoughts. But, for example, there's no right to cancel newspapers, etc, or unsealed audio or video recordings, as well as unsealed software. EDIT Does anyone actually read EULAs? (A certain episode of South Park comes to mind) Does any one read the EULAs, or - Conditions of Carriage, - before buying a bus ticket, train ticket, or even an airline ticket? They still apply. Gerry Howard
July 29, 201510 yr Moderator What was the software? Honestly I don't remember now. This was many, many years ago. It may well have been a boxed copy of Netscape Navigator. In any event, "not accepting the EULA" was a valid reason for getting a refund. Now that I think on it, I do believe it was "Navigator" as I found out I could download it for free... :He He: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 30, 201510 yr Moderator I just feel sorry for the poor sods that have it as a first name.... Lol, I had no idea that was a name. Can't say I ever meet anyone named Eula, but if I do it will probably be hard not to crack a smile. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 30, 201510 yr Honestly I don't remember now. This was many, many years ago. It may well have been a boxed copy of Netscape Navigator. In any event, "not accepting the EULA" was a valid reason for getting a refund. Now that I think on it, I do believe it was "Navigator" as I found out I could download it for free... :He He: Now, that takes me back Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
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