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Just curious about Win 10 install.  Did you do a clean install of OS or did you install over top of Win 7 or 8? 

 

I have my FSX on a separate SSD but I'm assuming we need to do a fresh install of FSX and addons.   Dreading that.....

 

 

 

 

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You don't HAVE to clean install.

 

As a matter of fact, you MUST upgrade to get W10 registered to your W7/8.1 key first before you can clean install.

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I did an update install and did not have to re-install a single thing but video drivers.

 

I rolled back to Win 7 and did not have to re-install a single thing but video drivers.

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But wouldn't clean install be better in terms of performance? 

 

What do you think about this video? 

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But wouldn't clean install be better in terms of performance? 

 

 

A completely clean install is almost always the best solution to be sure there are no remnants from the prior installation.  It is the completely "pure" path and will give the best performance.  But, considering how mature and complex some people's sim installations are, I can fully understand taking the upgrade path.

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I did an update install and did not have to re-install a single thing but video drivers.

 

I rolled back to Win 7 and did not have to re-install a single thing but video drivers.

 

so jim, why did you roll back to Win 7?    just curious

 

Thanks for the advice.  Well I plan to move from FSX boxed to FSX SE so a reinstall is in my future anyway. 

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Things did not seem to work well on day 1 so I rolled back.

 

I re did things on day 2, worked a bit slower this time and now everything works and looks great. I have removed the roll back files so it is now Win 10 for me.

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I have removed the roll back files so it is now Win 10 for me.

 

 

Jim, do you mean the:

 

"$Windows.~BT"  and "$Windows.~WS"  hidden folders on your system folder ?

 

BTW: I used the ( very handy )  free version of "Speccy" to determine my new windows 10 Pro key, to be used in any future clean install...

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Yes, those folders no longer are on my system. I did not manually delete them, but I let Win 10 clean them up for me.

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Yes, those folders no longer are on my system. I did not manually delete them, but I let Win 10 clean them up for me.

 

Ah! Ok, using the Windows Disk Cleanup and it's "system files" option, right ?

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Win 10 was just about as I expected. I tried to upgrade from Win 8.1 twice and it got all the way through to the end of the installation and then it just rolled back to Win 8.1. I won't  try it anymore until I'm forced to build a new system and use it.

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Jay - There's a consistent problem for folks upgrading to Windows 10 who have Orbx products installed.  There's an unused "TODO" file in one of the Orbx sub-directories that causes a data migration error during the upgrade.  Here's a link to the post here at Avsim where @DylanM explains what he discovered.  Very simple fix and the Windows 10 upgrades are restored.  I have no idea if that was your error, but thought I would post.

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Nope, my error had a totally different error code. I've given up on Win 10 for now. I've never had a problem before when installing either a new or upgraded OS. This is nature's way of warning me not to upgrade. Besides everything online says there is zero advantage to upgrading to Win 10. When p3d 3.0 comes out and takes advantage of DX12, I might do a clean install of Win 10

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Nope, my error had a totally different error code. I've given up on Win 10 for now. I've never had a problem before when installing either a new or upgraded OS. This is nature's way of warning me not to upgrade. Besides everything online says there is zero advantage to upgrading to Win 10. When p3d 3.0 comes out and takes advantage of DX12, I might do a clean install of Win 10

I gave up on Win 10 for the time being after reading that the Win 8  Saitek Pro Flight drivers are all that is available and there are a bunch of complaints online that they don't work properly in Win 10. The way that Mad Catz/Saitek tech support works is that it might be 6 months before they figure out that they need to release new drivers. 

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 I had problems with the Saitek systems when using Windows 8.1.The controllers sometimes would not show in the menu. They work just fine in Windows 10.

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Oh no, Win 10 fixed something. Think the world is going to end now.

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Win 10 was just about as I expected. I tried to upgrade from Win 8.1 twice and it got all the way through to the end of the installation and then it just rolled back to Win 8.1. I won't  try it anymore until I'm forced to build a new system and use it.

Heh heh, I tricked those old sneaky devils at MS. I disconnected all my USB devices and the install went perfectly. It must have been a driver issue somewhere. So far I haven't noticed anything new and exciting about Windows 10. Or bad for that matter.

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Jay - There's a consistent problem for folks upgrading to Windows 10 who have Orbx products installed.  There's an unused "TODO" file in one of the Orbx sub-directories that causes a data migration error during the upgrade.  Here's a link to the post here at Avsim where @DylanM explains what he discovered.  Very simple fix and the Windows 10 upgrades are restored.  I have no idea if that was your error, but thought I would post.

Doug Thank You very much for this simple yet very valuable info.I was getting VERY fustrated trying to upgrade.This should be made a sticky in this forum IMHO

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I installed W10 on my Windows 8.1 laptop, an ISO version of W10. It did not recognise my 2nd monitor & there was no start menu. It also wanted a W10 key!. I rolled back to W8.1 with no problems.

 

I then installed on my W7 laptop. No key required but screen resolution was 1024x768.

I'm currently downloading display drivers as we speak. I will check & report back later.

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I installed W10 on my Windows 8.1 laptop, an ISO version of W10. It did not recognise my 2nd monitor & there was no start menu. It also wanted a W10 key!. I rolled back to W8.1 with no problems.

 

I then installed on my W7 laptop. No key required but screen resolution was 1024x768.

I'm currently downloading display drivers as we speak. I will check & report back later.

When you upgrade from W7 or W8.1, you don't get a W10 key. Your computer is simply "authorised" to run W10. Setup puts this information on your BIOS.

 

Everyone who upgraded from W7 or W8.1 has the same product key for W10, whether it's the Home or Professional edition. It seems MS wants to move away from product keys and into hardware activation.

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Well, upgrading from my W8.1 laptop, fully updated & legal, using the ISO, it did ask for a key, installed, then said the key had been used too many times.

I had to search for a 'generic' key.

 

My W7 update is working well, once I updated the graphics.

 

So, my W8.1 is a bit of a mystery then! I still have my reservation icon lurking on the bottom right!

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Well, upgrading from my W8.1 laptop, fully updated & legal, using the ISO, it did ask for a key, installed, then said the key had been used too many times.

I had to search for a 'generic' key.

 

My W7 update is working well, once I updated the graphics.

 

So, my W8.1 is a bit of a mystery then! I still have my reservation icon lurking on the bottom right!

When upgrading, you're not supposed to put in a product key. Just click "Skip". Also, you're not supposed to use an ISO. Just use the Media Creation Tool.

 

Forget about the reservation icon. Use the Media Creation Tool.

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Ok, I'll try again. I did use the Media Creation Tool, but not the option to upgrade the PC, but the other option to upgrade other PC's.

 

I'll try a bit later today. Many thanks.

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