October 30, 201510 yr ....that I am planning on building to get smooth performance from my FS1/FSX and FS9 with 3rd party scenery and Ifly 737/747 What do you think? * ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 PCI-e 3.0 ATX Motherboard * AMD FX-4350 Vishera Quad-Core 4.2 GHz Socket AM3+ * Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 * EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti Graphic Card-2 GB GDDR5-128bit busSeagate 500GB Harddrive Either Windows XP or Windows 7 for OS.... which would you chose? Intel I7 6700 4.0 CPU Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16GB DDR4 Crucial RAM. Corsair 750 Watt PSU. EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 FTW GPU
October 30, 201510 yr Personally I would go Intel any day for flight sims over AMD. Minimum today of an i7 4790 4Ghz with DDR3 2400. Also, with prices where they are at a GTX 970 4GB video card. Windows 7 is a great choice. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 30, 201510 yr Author How about compared to these specs fppilot? AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz AM3 Quad-Core ProcessorWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard DriveKingston HyperX 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 Desktop MemoryASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 Micro ATX AMD MOBOASUS ENGT430 1GB GeForce Low Profile Video Card Intel I7 6700 4.0 CPU Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16GB DDR4 Crucial RAM. Corsair 750 Watt PSU. EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 FTW GPU
October 30, 201510 yr Are you looking at off the shelf pre-packaged systems? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 30, 201510 yr Author Are you looking at off the shelf pre-packaged systems? Building it myself. Intel I7 6700 4.0 CPU Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16GB DDR4 Crucial RAM. Corsair 750 Watt PSU. EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 FTW GPU
October 30, 201510 yr How about compared to these specs fppilot? AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz AM3 Quad-Core ProcessorWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard DriveKingston HyperX 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 Desktop MemoryASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 Micro ATX AMD MOBOASUS ENGT430 1GB GeForce Low Profile Video Card So these specs are in your signature. Are they the specs of your current system???? Before your new build? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 30, 201510 yr Don't buy AMD for flight simulation. Stick with intel. I would also buy the GTX 970 over the 750ti. Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
October 30, 201510 yr ....that I am planning on building to get smooth performance from my FS1/FSX and FS9 with 3rd party scenery and Ifly 737/747 What do you think? * ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 PCI-e 3.0 ATX Motherboard * AMD FX-4350 Vishera Quad-Core 4.2 GHz Socket AM3+ * Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 * EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti Graphic Card-2 GB GDDR5-128bit bus Seagate 500GB Harddrive Either Windows XP or Windows 7 for OS.... which would you chose? I used to be an AMD guy till I tried intel. I had an FX-8350 rig at 4.5ghz and when I switched to an intel 4790k at 4.5ghz I gained around 20fps by just switching the CPU and mobo here is a topic where I talk about my initial impressions. Basicly stay away from AMD's for FS as they are poor in single core performance and thats what counts in FS http://www.avsim.com/topic/445293-my-mini-review-of-the-new-i7-4790k-devils-canyon/ ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
October 30, 201510 yr The problem with AMD is the poor IPC , the phenom II have better IPC but not a good clocker. An I5 760 is faster in FSX !!!! If you not is a AMD fun boy go for a Intel. As Hardcore Overclocker i have some Golden Amd chip, FX4300 @8.0ghz and FX8320 @8.46ghz cpuz validated. http://
October 30, 201510 yr ....that I am planning on building to get smooth performance from my FS1/FSX and FS9 with 3rd party scenery and Ifly 737/747 What do you think? * ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 PCI-e 3.0 ATX Motherboard * AMD FX-4350 Vishera Quad-Core 4.2 GHz Socket AM3+ * Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 * EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti Graphic Card-2 GB GDDR5-128bit bus Seagate 500GB Harddrive Either Windows XP or Windows 7 for OS.... which would you chose? What's your max budget? I'm about to build a mini ITX system for my daughter, based on the Intel 6600k, you'd be surprised how cheap. But it will be powerful.
October 30, 201510 yr Author What's your max budget? I'm about to build a mini ITX system for my daughter, based on the Intel 6600k, you'd be surprised how cheap. But it will be powerful. $400 I have found everything listed NEW on Ebay except for the GPU and HD for less than$250. When I put INTEL in to the picture the price tag goes up to $600+ quickly that is prohibitive right now and for the foreseeable future . I am tired of sharing the desktop with the wife and want something that is dedicated to just FS and internet connectivity, I am looking for a performance boost over what my current system is. Currently my FS9 FPS are set at 30 and am smooth with Ifly 737/747 and FSDreamteam scenery with sliders to the right. My FSX experience is limited to 16FPS with default scenery with sliders in the middle. Intel I7 6700 4.0 CPU Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16GB DDR4 Crucial RAM. Corsair 750 Watt PSU. EVGA NVIDIA GTX1080 FTW GPU
October 30, 201510 yr Don't bother. Save some more. Either that, or get a Pentium G3258K and either an MSI H81-E33 or an Asus H81 Plus and a cheap aftermarket cooler (something like the Akasa Venom). This combo will clock to 4.2ghz without trying, and will dump all over the AMD system P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
October 30, 201510 yr Don't bother. Save some more... This - 400 bucks isn't enough to get great performance out of FSX ... MAAAYBE FS9 but doubtful. Save up 1200 bucks at least | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
October 30, 201510 yr FX-6200 and 550ti user here. You're not going to get 'orders of magnitude' gains in performance without switching to Intel. The only way to get substantial performance gains with AMD is to dial back the eye candy. However, your proposed build will give you better performance than what you've got now. If you're mostly a GA flyer, stay away from resource-intensive study sims and you're OK with keeping those sliders in the middle, you'll probably be happy especially given the price of the upgrade. If you're getting 16FPS with your current hardware I'd expect you'll probably be in the low 20's (but still diving into the teens in heavy weather or complex scenery areas) with the new build. Richard P. Kelly
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