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Hello Pilots. just downloaded v3.1 and was wondering what is a good mesh to use with v3.1 ?   I used FS Genisis with FSX and P3Dv2.5. I was not great but just ok in my opinion.  I've read about Pilots mesh and also I understand the free mesh is even better. Any ideas?

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Just use the Freemesh.  It's awesome and the price cannot be beat.

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Thanks Greggy, that is what I've read, most people using it say it is great.

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+1 for FreeMeshX. 

 

Very easy to use, can install it anywhere (I have it on a 3.0 external drive to save space on my SSD), visually very impressive, no effect on performance, excellent value for money.

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Hey Ian,

 

I was looking at the free mesh. Am currently using FS Global, but am looking for an alternative. The global money has been spent.

 

I no longer use FTX Vector, so I no longer have the elevation correction tool in their configurator.

 

FreeMeshX have said on their website that they don't intend to create one. Fair enough. Can't beat the price. Have you noticed elevation mismatches with free mesh?

 

Thanks

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I am just interested in the US NA part right now so do I just download the part I need and the installer installs it in P3D?

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Having once been an FSGenisis subcriber, I have most of Justin's old mesh.  I did also download and install the FreeMeshX and, for the price;-) its definitely a FANTASTIC deal.  However, I've gone back to the old FSG mesh, as in most places, it is without doubt, better looking imho.

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Hey Ian,

 

I was looking at the free mesh. Am currently using FS Global, but am looking for an alternative. The global money has been spent.

 

I no longer use FTX Vector, so I no longer have the elevation correction tool in their configurator.

 

FreeMeshX have said on their website that they don't intend to create one. Fair enough. Can't beat the price. Have you noticed elevation mismatches with free mesh?

 

Thanks

 

Hi Graham

 

No, I've not noticed any elevation issues personally.

 

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but there is a FreeMeshX forum in the freeware developers section of AVSIM? I've had a quick look, most issues seem to be people struggling to download. I did see reference to a couple of elevation queries. Daniel (the developer) indicated it would be fixed with version 1.06. Can't beat that for freeware service.

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FreeMeshX is great!  Works and looks fantastic, and as others have said, can't beat the price.

 

Improvement over stock is night and day, but I can't compare to FS Global as I haven't tried it.

 

I think you might run into a random elevation issue occasionally, but that's the nature of trying to accurately model such huge areas using the MS database for airports.  I noted one in the FreeMeshX forum here and Daniel was quick to respond.

 

I see no more issues with FreeMeshX however than I do that are Vector related... bound to be something whacky occasionally.

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Ian,be77solo,

 

Thanks for the info.

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I am just interested in the US NA part right now so do I just download the part I need and the installer installs it in P3D?

 

I am just interested in the US NA part right now so do I just download the part I need and the installer installs it in P3D?

So, Just download and install into P3DV3.1 ?

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Yes, just download NA and add to your Scenery Library.

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I also use FreemeshX - it is great.

 

Has anyone had a problem with the Asia region though?  For some reason, every time I download the Asia packs I encounter an issue with opening the zipfiles.

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+1 for FreeMeshX. 

 

Very easy to use, can install it anywhere (I have it on a 3.0 external drive to save space on my SSD), visually very impressive, no effect on performance, excellent value for money.

 

Hi guys

I have P3D and FSX on the same SSD drive with Freemesh installed on FSX. Can I just use this mesh for P3D by adding the Freemesh installed on FSX into my P3D library?

 

Many thanks

John

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So I've always wondered how does one fix mesh issues with their payware airports if you use this? Or is this just for people that use default airports only?

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So I've always wondered how does one fix mesh issues with their payware airports if you use this? Or is this just for people that use default airports only?

 

I have a combination of payware and freeware airports and haven't encountered any mesh issues to date. If you do happen to haveany problems, there is good support on their site.

Hi guys

I have P3D and FSX on the same SSD drive with Freemesh installed on FSX. Can I just use this mesh for P3D by adding the Freemesh installed on FSX into my P3D library?

 

Many thanks

John

 

Not 100% sure as i have never tried this, however I have my folder on a separate 3.0 external hard-drive to save space on my SSD. This works no problem so as your folder is contained on the same SSD i doubt you'll have any problem either. Just go to your Addon Scenery menu in P3D and point it to the folder in FSX where the files are stored.

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Can I just use this mesh for P3D by adding the Freemesh installed on FSX into my P3D library

 

I would hazard a guess and say that you can.

Another +1 for FreemeshX its a huge improvement over default and I have not seen any issues with it at all.

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I am just interested in the US NA part right now so do I just download the part I need and the installer installs it in P3D?

 

Well, I'll tell you now that you would have to wait for USA improvements. North America only does Canada and Greenland at the moment until the USA expansion is out.

 

The USA expansion is special and uses a much higher LOD, and for that reason I have to be extra careful with it and mitigate the plateau/pit issue that occurs with high-resolution terrain.

 

No use releasing something if it makes airports look screwy.

 

However, there are good U.S. meshes for sale if you'd prefer to get one sooner :)

 

Hi guys

I have P3D and FSX on the same SSD drive with Freemesh installed on FSX. Can I just use this mesh for P3D by adding the Freemesh installed on FSX into my P3D library?

 

Many thanks

John

 

 

Yes. That works fine. That's how I do it.

 

I also use FreemeshX - it is great.

 

Has anyone had a problem with the Asia region though?  For some reason, every time I download the Asia packs I encounter an issue with opening the zipfiles.

 

Make sure you're only extracting the first volume only, and that all four volumes are in the same folder. 7-Zip will automatically extract the other volume when it extracts the first volume.

 

Cheers for the kind comments, folks. I'd never thought I'd see 80,000+ downloads of FreeMeshX. It was just a side project for myself.

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Thanks Daniel, I did not know that about USA portion. I'll probably just get some payware Mesh.

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So Daniel let me ask,

 

Are you actually going through airports and correcting the plateau/valley effect for each airport? 

 

I see some simmers here stating they are seeing no issues with your mesh.  I would be in amazement if  the 1,000's of airports were being adjust to your mesh resolution? 

 

Definitely want to try your mesh when it comes out for the USA.  Currently using Genesis 10m mesh for entire USA which looks superb except for airports where there a cliffs and valleys.

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So Daniel let me ask,

 

Are you actually going through airports and correcting the plateau/valley effect for each airport? 

 

I see some simmers here stating they are seeing no issues with your mesh.  I would be in amazement if  the 1,000's of airports were being adjust to your mesh resolution? 

 

Definitely want to try your mesh when it comes out for the USA.  Currently using Genesis 10m mesh for entire USA which looks superb except for airports where there a cliffs and valleys.

 

Hi Clutch,

 

No, I don't go through each airport and hand correct it. That would be just too much work for this man.

 

I think the FreeMeshX Global mesh has been working well because of the airport, river, and lake elevation corrections that comes with FTX Vectors. FTX Vectors is designed to work only with SRTM based mesh sets, and FreeMeshX Global is for the most part, SRTM-based. They just work so well together hand in hand.

 

However, with the USA expansion, the mesh resolution is going to be 10-m, and that is a huge upgrade from the stock 38-m. With that comes a tradeoff. There is so much variation in the higher-res terrain, little ups and downs that just don't work well with the flat airport limitation in FSX/P3D airports. Some airports will have one end raised on a plateau, and the other end will be in a valley. Definitely a pain the butt. If I were to release the USA expansion as now, it will make the mountains beautiful, but at the cost of making the airports ugly. Even with FTX Vector corrections. I could get away with it in the Global release. But it's not an optimal method for the USA. So I have to work on an alternative solution, and that's why FMX - USA is taking its time.

 

ORBX can hand blend in their airports in their FTX regions and airports. But we don't have the resources for that. So we will have to get creative. I'm trying to work ways in which the airports surroundings are blended in with the surrounding terrain with some success. If I can just put some more time in it, I can really get the ball rolling!

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Here's a nice review Pilots! FSGlobal Mesh 2010 on AVSim that explains the level of detail (LOD):

 

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0210/Pilots/FSGlobal.htm

 

I think that it's an overgeneralization to say that terrain mesh never affects performance. That really depends on the mesh used, the mesh setting in the sim UI and the geographic location of the aircraft. In a flat area of the US for example, most 3rd party meshes won't provide any additional resolution over the default mesh. 3rd party meshes really shine where either they have replaced low LOD mesh in an area of the globe with a higher LOD version or the terrain is steeply sloped.

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Make sure you're only extracting the first volume only, and that all four volumes are in the same folder. 7-Zip will automatically extract the other volume when it extracts the first volume.
 
Cheers for the kind comments, folks. I'd never thought I'd see 80,000+ downloads of FreeMeshX. It was just a side project for myself.

 

thanks Daniel

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