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Hi,

 

For those interested in MegaSceneryEarth it appears that they are "close" to completing the first X-Plane state.

 

So, more good news for X-Plane users along with some terrific aircraft to be released in the near future.

 

Yay!!!

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To be honest, one can easily generate very high quality photoscenery for free for the US using Ortho4XP and USGS imagery. I have a feeling this will be a hard sell for some, even with the constant stream of spam from them in my inbox  :wink:

 

Nice to see more FSX devs coming to X-Plane

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Great news!  I will purchase being as I do not have the time to make my own. 

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Hi,

 

For those interested in MegaSceneryEarth it appears that they are "close" to completing the first X-Plane state.

 

So, more good news for X-Plane users along with some terrific aircraft to be released in the near future.

 

Yay!!!

 

Which state ? Where did you read that at ?

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Which state ? Where did you read that at ?

Hi Strider,

 

Mr. Robert Ferraro, CEO and President of PC Aviator responded to one of my emails with that information. The state was not mentioned.

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one can easily generate very high quality photoscenery for free for the US using Ortho4XP and USGS imagery.

 

"Easy" you say :P

I get a headache every time I start reading guides for photoscenery and I have yet to do it successfully.

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Well that depends. It's like anything, if you put the original effort in to learn how to use it then it's really easy afterwards. Otherwise you can pay somebody else to provide you with photoscenery (Which a lot of people strangely seem to prefer and cite having no time as a factor). The results I'm getting with Ortho4XP almost anywhere I generate far beat anything I had on FSX. Once you've learned how to setup the application, generating a tile is very easy

 

I think lots of X-Planers aren't afraid of tweaking and generating their own scenery (many even make their own airports). For the rest, it's good to have a ready-made solution

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I think lots of X-Planers aren't afraid of tweaking and generating their own scenery (many even make their own airports). For the rest, it's good to have a ready-made solution

Obviously, and I like tinkering with it too, as it lets me learn a lot of new things. It's just pretty exclusive for photo/OrthoXP. Guides I found confuse me more rather than help.

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Yes Tony, Strangely, I do not have the time to sit around on the computer all day like you. :P

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Yes Tony, Strangely, I do not have the time to sit around on the computer all day like you.

 

Well my job involves sitting around all day on a computer, so an all around win for me  :wink:

 

Funny thing is, many will actually say they don't have time, but yet can sit and watch an autopilot fly a 737 for 3 hours and not batter an eye-lid. When you're generating photoscenery or OSM scenery you can just leave the computer, walk off, have a beer, etc.. 

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Well my job involves sitting around all day on a computer, so an all around win for me  :wink:

 

Funny thing is, many will actually say they don't have time, but yet can sit and watch an autopilot fly a 737 for 3 hours and not batter an eye-lid. When you're generating photoscenery or OSM scenery you can just leave the computer, walk off, have a beer, etc.. 

:lol:

Cheers !

Pascal

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To be honest, one can easily generate very high quality photoscenery for free for the US using Ortho4XP and USGS imagery. I have a feeling this will be a hard sell for some, even with the constant stream of spam from them in my inbox  :wink:

 

Nice to see more FSX devs coming to X-Plane

 

Yeah, but it's a pain to try and install. Megasceneryearth is worth every penny if one can simply click on Install to make it work.

Well that depends. It's like anything, if you put the original effort in to learn how to use it then it's really easy afterwards. Otherwise you can pay somebody else to provide you with photoscenery (Which a lot of people strangely seem to prefer and cite having no time as a factor). The results I'm getting with Ortho4XP almost anywhere I generate far beat anything I had on FSX. Once you've learned how to setup the application, generating a tile is very easy

 

I think lots of X-Planers aren't afraid of tweaking and generating their own scenery (many even make their own airports). For the rest, it's good to have a ready-made solution

 

Yeah, but like most people have been saying about Ortho4XP and similar programs like G2XPL, they are an utter pain to install. MegasceneryEarth has at least figured it out and done all that pesky footwork for the customer. Plus there is no reliable support with G2XPL and Ortho. And you will certainly need it in order to get it working (in addition to studying the instructions, which have been obviously translated into English.).

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Yeah, but it's a pain to try and install. Megasceneryearth is worth every penny if one can simply click on Install to make it work.

 

It really isn't. Only if you make it out to be. At this point, I doubt a lot of people have actually given it a fair shot and just perpetuate that claim repeatedly. I also certainly hope you didn't call G2XPL a pain to install? Because there barely is an install. You put it into the X-Plane plugin folder and start drawing the areas you want in Google Maps / Google Earth. It's kids stuff. Ortho4XP is a little more involved but it's just about getting Python, some plugins and some software installed, nothing else. 

 

I've built 3 states of beautiful ZL17 ortho, with little to no effort other than time downloading it. 

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It really isn't. Only if you make it out to be. At this point, I doubt a lot of people have actually given it a fair shot and just perpetuate that claim repeatedly. I also certainly hope you didn't call G2XPL a pain to install? Because there barely is an install. You put it into the X-Plane plugin folder and start drawing the areas you want in Google Maps / Google Earth. It's kids stuff. Ortho4XP is a little more involved but it's just about getting Python, some plugins and some software installed, nothing else. 

 

I've built 3 states of beautiful ZL17 ortho, with little to no effort other than time downloading it. 

 

Uh, it's a little more than copy and pasting a folder into your custom scenery folder. Simply doing that task does not get you to seeing photoscenery.

 

But if the MegasceneryEarth has its own installer and does all the magic on its own without you needing to spend 20 minutes to several hours downloading tile sizes to suit your fancy, then I'm on board.

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It's like building a house really. I could learn all the stuff to do it myself, but in the end, I'd rather just buy a built one.

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Well that depends. It's like anything, if you put the original effort in to learn how to use it then it's really easy afterwards. Otherwise you can pay somebody else to provide you with photoscenery (Which a lot of people strangely seem to prefer and cite having no time as a factor). The results I'm getting with Ortho4XP almost anywhere I generate far beat anything I had on FSX. Once you've learned how to setup the application, generating a tile is very easy

 

I think lots of X-Planers aren't afraid of tweaking and generating their own scenery (many even make their own airports). For the rest, it's good to have a ready-made solution

 

 

I consider myself a very persistent people. Learn't a lot about xplane and its addons, programming, scripting, tweaking, addressing all my needs.

 

But somehow unable to generate my own scenery still. I made 4 to 5 attempts (a week each, including reading forums, watching youtube videos, experimenting). Tried g2xp (donated to get my full version), ortho4xp. No luck

 

As Morrigan said above, information has been very confusing to me. Based on my own experience generating my own scenery has been the most frustrating experience so far and still unable to manage it. I think is not that easy.

 

i did not give up yet, will keep pushing when time permitting but if someone provides a nice product i will put money on it and move on about nightmare

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In the old days, I generated scenery for the "Fly" sim.  These days, I will never get into scenery generation, nor do I care to go for the effort.  In fact, just getting the computer loaded with all of the latest & greatest files for the ultimate experience seems more than I want to do. I'll let someone else do it, and I'll pay for it. Does this mean I'm lazy?  Not at all. I still work full time, and am about retirement age. I'll be working after that. I also have two other hobbies, which take much of my spare time. MegaScenery has some excellent scenery for the western USA which I'm interested in. I'll look forward to future releases. 

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While creating photoscenery isn't rocket science, I would still prefer to buy it. I would even pay more if the vendor doesn't just fire & forget a batch-tool, but also performs the manual steps to get the result as good as it can be within reasonable margin.

 

I have just finished the complete PilotEdge area in ZL16, and I won't do another area anytime soon. While getting the tiles was just a question of time (I used a batch file for G2XPL), there are still many things that could be optimized. Some of the most important ones for me would be to always choose the provider provider with the best image quality for every tile, balancing color and contrast, optimizing land-water transitions and making exclusion zones where airports don't line up with the underlying photoscenery.

 

I would willingly pay $60-180 per US-state or european country (depending on size of course) at ZL16, if the scenery would be optimized manually as mentioned above. It wouldn't even need to have autogen, 3D objects, trees, roads or night textures.

I have disabled all of those for my own scenery, so I only see 3D buildings at airports.

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Which a lot of people strangely seem to prefer and cite having no time as a factor. The results I'm getting with Ortho4XP almost anywhere I generate far beat anything I had on FSX. Once you've learned how to setup the application, generating a tile is very easy

 

Well, I'm one of them. I agree that Ortho4XP is quite easy to use, but at least on my old PC, it took more than one day to generate a high-quality "100% land without sea" tile (Have not tested on the current one.)

 

Also, from payware photo scenery I expect that they have edited the tiles for removing color differences that spoil the experience for me with using Bing or Google tiles. I don't know if MegaScenery does this; if they do, and the tiles look consistent, and the results are at least like zoom level 16, I'd buy it at day one.

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Uh, it's a little more than copy and pasting a folder into your custom scenery folder. Simply doing that task does not get you to seeing photoscenery.

 

But if the MegasceneryEarth has its own installer and does all the magic on its own without you needing to spend 20 minutes to several hours downloading tile sizes to suit your fancy, then I'm on board.

 

You are right, you actually have to do something actively, like click a button for it to appear on your harddrive. 

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You are right, you actually have to do something actively, like click a button for it to appear on your harddrive. 

 

Dude. Pay attention. It took more to get it to work. Explaining this to you is (as I can see), going nowhere. My apologies to your comprehension.

 

The evidence speaks for itself. Most people like photoscenery but want it to be simple process to install and get it running.

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Dude. Pay attention. It took more to get it to work. Explaining this to you is (as I can see), going nowhere. My apologies to your comprehension.

 

The evidence speaks for itself. Most people like photoscenery but want it to be simple process to install and get it running.

 

Why would you need to explain anything to me? I've used both software to build tiles. Currently I've built 4 states in ZL17 with Ortho4XP. I suspect that's about 100% more than you've built with either.

 

So your frantic raving about how hard it is to click a few buttons is laughable at best. Yes, you want it served a silver platter and pay your way out of it, we get it. 

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Why would you need to explain anything to me? I've used both software to build tiles. Currently I've built 4 states in ZL17 with Ortho4XP. I suspect that's about 100% more than you've built with either. So your frantic raving about how hard it is to click a few buttons is laughable, at best.

 

I think your responses have been more frantic and rather obsessive.

 

All you need to do is look at what many comments have been surrounding the installation and use of these applications. People want installers. That's okay. No need to obsess over how much easier it was for you unless you just want to toot your own horn, as it seems.

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