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Hi everyone,

 

I am going to be ordering a new PC in the next day or two and the big question is should I choose Windows 7 or Windows 10?

 

The PC comes with Windows 10 as standard but I can get Windows 7 instead if I want. I know PMDG only officialy support Windows 7 but what would you say? This will be my PC for at least the next 4 years.

 

Kind regards

 

Greg

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I know PMDG only officialy support Windows 7 but what would you say?

 

We support 7 and 10. Support for 10 begins with the NGX and continues onward.

 

 

 


This will be my PC for at least the next 4 years.

 

Then I would go with 10.

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Thanks very much Kyle.

 

Appreciate the quick reply.

 

Kind regards

 

Greg

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Thanks very much Kyle.

Appreciate the quick reply.

 

Welcome!

 

For what it's worth, a lot of the issues that people saw when it first came out were where they tried to install Win 10 "on top of" Win 7. It seems that reinstalling fresh helped a lot of their issues. Since your computer is new, you shouldn't see any of the issues you might see reported in various forums. I know I haven't seen any of them on my system which has had Win 10 on it from day 1.

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Brilliant - that removes my worries. Will go with Windows 10.

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I'm in the same boat for a system I plan to build in the next month, but have tentatively decided on win7 on the basis that both pmdg and LM recommend win7 64 on their product pages (specifically for the NGX, 777, and p3d v3).

 

Kyle, it's great to hear that you support win 10. What about controller issues? I know there has been lots of angst with USB controllers (yokes, throttles, etc) being flaky in win10. It seems like some people still have issues with controllers in win10 while for others it's smooth sailing.

 

If I could get more reassurance that a clean win10 install should work with p3d, pmdg, and accessories then I might lean in that direction.

 

Many thanks!

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I'm in the same boat for a system I plan to build in the next month, but have tentatively decided on win7 on the basis that both pmdg and LM recommend win7 64 on their product pages (specifically for the NGX, 777, and p3d v3).

Kyle, it's great to hear that you support win 10. What about controller issues? I know there has been lots of angst with USB controllers (yokes, throttles, etc) being flaky in win10. It seems like some people still have issues with controllers in win10 while for others it's smooth sailing.

If I could get more reassurance that a clean win10 install should work with p3d, pmdg, and accessories then I might lean in that direction.

Many thanks!

Glad I wasn't the only one wondering Andrew.

 

Out of interest what system/specs you looking at?

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If I could get more reassurance that a clean win10 install should work with p3d, pmdg, and accessories then I might lean in that direction.

 

My new build is an i7-6700K with Win10.  I selected Win10 over Win7 to make sure I would have no problems with using the latest NVMe SSD protocols among other reasons.  I have no problems with Win10, P3D or XPlane and PMDG. None.  The only problems I've had system-wise was discovering that the NVidia 364.xx drivers were buggy and I had to learn a new way to start windows in safe mode to get rid of everything NVidia before installing a different driver. That wasn't Windows fault.

 

I am getting used to Win10 and will be updating my older i7-4790K to Win10 in the next few weeks.  Hope this helps.

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Kyle, it's great to hear that you support win 10. What about controller issues? I know there has been lots of angst with USB controllers (yokes, throttles, etc) being flaky in win10. It seems like some people still have issues with controllers in win10 while for others it's smooth sailing.

 

I haven't seen any. I believe that was more of a Win 8 thing.

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Greg,

 

Here's my current top candidate: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rgjqLk

 

I need to go mini-itx for space reasons and maximum family acceptance factor. That makes part selection a but more challenging, but it can be done. The Fractal Core 500 looks like the perfect case for a solid build. Going with gtx 970 for now and will get a Pascal card towards the end of the year.

 

The Asus Z170i pro gaming is one of a few mini-itx boards that still offer some usb2 controllers. From what I've heard, win7 install disks won't work from a usb3 drive. I'm not getting an optical drive so will use an external USB optical drive to install the OS.

 

Let me know what you think!

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Greg,

Here's my current top candidate: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rgjqLk

I need to go mini-itx for space reasons and maximum family acceptance factor. That makes part selection a but more challenging, but it can be done. The Fractal Core 500 looks like the perfect case for a solid build. Going with gtx 970 for now and will get a Pascal card towards the end of the year.

The Asus Z170i pro gaming is one of a few mini-itx boards that still offer some usb2 controllers. From what I've heard, win7 install disks won't work from a usb3 drive. I'm not getting an optical drive so will use an external USB optical drive to install the OS.

Let me know what you think!

Looks good Andrew! Will do the job.

 

I'm looking at

 

Intel Core i7-6700K, up to 4.6GHz

16GB DDR4 2133MHz

GTX 970 4GB

250GB SSD / 2TB SSHD

 

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I need to go mini-itx for space reasons and maximum family acceptance factor. That makes part selection a but more challenging, but it can be done. The Fractal Core 500 looks like the perfect case for a solid build. Going with gtx 970 for now and will get a Pascal card towards the end of the year.

the pascal cards are supposedly releasing may 27. in a few weeks you might be able to just get that..or if you want the cheaper route for now, it is likely the 970 will see a price drop once the 1080s are out. just a thought if you wanna save a few bucks. depends how urgent it is, if your current card isn't bad it might work as a standby

 

cheers

-andy crosby

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Interesting, a couple of strong votes for win10 here.  May I ask some follow-ups, as I know virtually nothing about win10.  For a flight simmer, are there any good how-tos for setting up win10?  Something akin to NickN's win7 guides, or even just some tips and tricks?  As Kyle notes, a clean install is highly recommended.  But I'm also thinking about system tuning like turning off UAC, auto updates, irrelevant services, or any other windows system settings that may interfere with a clean simming experience.

 

It also feels wrong to me to stick with an ancient OS, but I know how to setup win7 and all the a/c and add-ons I have are known to work with it.  I'll be finally moving to P3D with this new build so if win10 is the way to go, I'm willing to give it a shot as long as I have the requisite knowledge not to shoot myself in the foot!

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For a flight simmer, are there any good how-tos for setting up win10?

 

Install. Use.

 

I think the only thing I did was turn UAC down, you cannot turn it off. Updates are prompted instead of automatic. Other than that starting clean was very easy.  There's things to get used to for sure but it has a very clean and uncluttered look that I have grown to prefer to my Win7 box.

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I have been pondering this Q too... I have lots of hardware  home cockpit.. I have the Flight illusion gauges (the 8 pack). I also have the Jetmax/Flight deck solutions 737 Throttle quadrant. and a Radio stack from TR-1 from Flight Link. 

 

Scared of Win10

 

Tough decision

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I just built a Skylake system, i7 6700k, GTX 970, Noctua NH D-15 cooler, 16g ram, dedicated SSD for W10 and another for FSX and made the decision to go with W10 based on info regarding Windows limited support for Skylake systems after July 2017.

With that said, I still have W7 installed on a separate partition with FS9 so can still fly my MD-11 that I bought so many years ago. After I upgraded my system I realized that I couldn't get the FSX version anymore from PMDG.

 

Have had ZERO problems with W10 so far. Fingers crossed. Really love my system though. Coming from what I had, single core 10 year old Dell with FSX fps always running in the single digits with sliders at minimum, I'm finally able to enjoy flight simming the way I've always wanted. I'm a very happy camper now.

 

And as far as I know, there are no more versions of Windows to be released. After W10 it's just gonna be free updates of that OS. Not gonna be a W11, W12 etc. Not a bad thing.

Mark

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If you use a lot of controllers don't go with W10.

I use a lot of controllers and W10 could not handle them.  I had to remove it and reinstall W7.

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I installed Win 10 on my two main computers.  One I use for business and one I use for FSX.  Both were Win7-64 Pro machines.  They both operated flawlessly in Win 10.  Unfortunately I could not get the machine running FSX to run FSX correctly and had to roll it back to Win 7 after 29 days of trying.  When I could get FSX to work under Win 10, it was excellent, but I never knew if it was going to work or how well it would work  when I started FSX.  Lots of folks have reported excellent success with FSX running Win 10, I just was not one of them. 

 

blaustern

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Hi Wilhelm,

 

Did you by chance try doing a clean install of win10? With the free upgrade program from Microsoft, I'm aware that first you need to upgrade from within win7. But I read you then have the option of downloading an installer to reformat the drive and conduct a clean install of win10. Since Kyle mentioned a clean install was recommended, that's the route I'm currently considering, despite it will be time consuming.

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I have a clean-installed Win10. Most everything is OK except my Saitek Pro Flight throttle quad. That doesn't work at all.

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Did you by chance try doing a clean install of win10?

 

Andrew,

 

I did not do a clean install because FSX was the only program that I was having trouble with.    I may try again just before the free upgrade expires.  My other Win 10 machine did not have a clean install and I have not had any problems. 

 

blaustern

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If you use a lot of controllers don't go with W10.

I use a lot of controllers and W10 could not handle them.  I had to remove it and reinstall W7.

WOW

 

I have tonnes of USBs... GF module, Saiket modules, Flight Illusion gauges, Flightdeck 737 Throttle, TR-1Avionics... This is what I feared!

 

Sigh!

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I have tonnes of USBs... GF module, Saiket modules, Flight Illusion gauges, Flightdeck 737 Throttle, TR-1Avionics... This is what I feared!

 

For what it's worth, I'm not seeing this issue.

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Has anyone tried the js41 on windows 10? It would be nice to know that this long forgotten bird can hold it's own on the latest platforms.

I'm too afraid of upgrading myself and risking the loss of this amazing aircraft.

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