August 19, 20169 yr I can't say anything about that, Rich! I always fly in windowed mode, makes switching between all the apps a bit easier, in my opinion. I'll try switching to full screen mode on my next flight to find out about it, if I remember it! ;-) Thanks so thinking that window mode posting my be valid and thats not a going to work for me thats for sure - well see - have to look more into it - take care Mike :wink: Rich Sennett
August 19, 20169 yr Performance is the only thing I worry about with this thing. I have a very stable FSX that gives me good framerates with the NGX, 777 etc. and the OOMs I've had were so few in number that I only need one hand to count them... I hope that will stay the same with A320 without making any major changes.
August 19, 20169 yr Performance is the only thing I worry about with this thing. I have a very stable FSX that gives me good framerates with the NGX, 777 etc. and the OOMs I've had were so few in number that I only need one hand to count them... I hope that will stay the same with A320 without making any major changes. I haven't changed any settings for the FSL Airbus. And in DX10, performance is quite similar to the AS Airbus, and VAS hasn't been a problem yet.
August 19, 20169 yr That sounds promising indeed. I so far haven't used DX10, I wonder if that will pose a problem performance-wise.
August 19, 20169 yr Great pics sir! I think AS has a slight edge on the visuals but obviously these guys did some massive systems design! I hope you guys enjoy it! I agree Ryan. As nice as the OP's pictures are, this really pointed out to me at least that the VC visuals certainly don't improve on the Aerosoft offering. I appreciate there is a whole lot more offered (and a price tag to match), but I would have guessed the VC visuals would have been 'state of the art' and honestly, I really don't feel they're close to something like the IXEG 737's VC. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 19, 20169 yr Well, on the new Aerosoft Tegel, with FTX Global, Vector and Mesh going on in the surrounding, I am pretty happy with fps around 14. Really?! Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 19, 20169 yr That sounds promising indeed. I so far haven't used DX10, I wonder if that will pose a problem performance-wise. Like I wrote in my 1st post in this thread, I got close to an OOM on a short flight in DX9. FSL state on their website (and even the installer tells you the same when running it), that they strongly recommend the DX10 fixer by Steve to switch FSX into DX10 mode, performance will increase and VAS usage will decrease when doing so. And that is exactly what happened to me. In DX10 it's perfectly usable, and the whole sim is smoother and looks better. Really?! Yes.
August 19, 20169 yr Well I think you're in a rather huge minority if 14FPS is acceptable to you! ... but each to their own I guess. I am not the negative type, and I'm really excited about this product, but so far, I'm worried about :- The VC texturing appearing slightly (subjectively) lower quality than the AS buses. The potentially Low FPS. The potentially high VAS usage. The potential need to use DX10. I use DX9 in FSX:SE, have no issues whatsoever in the NGX, T7, etc, and prefer DX9. I don't want to be 'forced' to use DX10, as it conflicts with some other add-ons I enjoy. The potential need to use it in Windowed mode - just as Rich Sennet said; a total showstopper for me, if true. The fact that the early adopters version has no capability to assign key commands (for FCU), so a mouse only experience. Hopefully these potential problems will prove not to be the case, or they'll be addressed for the release version. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 19, 20169 yr For those not entirely impressed with the visuals, wait 6 months, someone will undoubtedly attempt to merge this with the Aerosoft A320. Externally, I think the A320x looks good. It will look even better inside P3D, with it's superior lighting as compared to the flat light of FSX.
August 19, 20169 yr someone will undoubtedly attempt to merge this with the Aerosoft A320 When you merge, the systems logic comes with the panel (in this case VC). So merging the AS's VC with the FSL's model, would result in losing all the high end systems representation that comes with the FSL. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 19, 20169 yr I was thinking along the lines of placing the FSL VC, (systems and all) in the AS external model.
August 19, 20169 yr I was thinking along the lines of placing the FSL VC, (systems and all) in the AS external model. Ah ok, got you. But for me, it's the FSL's VC that feels just a little lower standard than I perhaps expected. Of course, expectations get us into trouble! :smile: ...... and in perspective, it's hardly the ugliest VC we've ever seen. But being honest, I expected something a little more polished. - or should I say, less polished, as there seem to be few signs of wear and tear and baked shading. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
August 19, 20169 yr Thanks for the detailed info Mik75! How does crosswind landing feel? Do you have that '' flying on rails'' effect or it feels more natural? And how do you compare the flight model to the pmdg 737ng ?(you mentioned only ixeg and majestic above). The FBW is easily the best ever programmed into a desktop flight sim addon! On a side note (slightly off topic) the best FBW ever created in a flight sim addon (in general , not only in fsx) is this : http://www.bmsforum.org/forum/content.php?149-Flight-Model-(FM)-Developer-s-Notes-Part-4), simply because the real (and not a guessed) hardware code is incorporated in the simulator.
August 19, 20169 yr Texturing can go a long way so that said downloaded the paint kit and looks great so I think this will be on the buy list just need to figure out the windowed mode thing - might not be an issue in P3D - could someone with this knowledge answer this as painting this looks like a dream to do compared to carenado stuff this is easy stuff :wink: Rich Sennett
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