November 18, 20169 yr Lol. Not really. Ok, then do you have anything to add? Trying to preemptively knock down a software a development before it's released seems like a fool's errand. Maybe once it's released--and if you have either experience or information to prove that indeed a bug exists--you can work with them. Until then, I'm not quite sure of what you're attempting to get at. Well, I get it; I just rather not say it. Garrett Frank
November 18, 20169 yr Moderator Until then, I'm not quite sure of what you're attempting to get at. Well, I get it; I just rather not say it. I have a strong feeling that Reno_Rocket has been here before but using another alias. Seems all to familiar. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
November 18, 20169 yr Nobody has posted pics showing EPR or N1 at cruise. What degree nose up is at 375,000kg at FL290-310?What is the climb rate at 290kt IAS AT FL100, 200, 300. What is it using 340 kts IAS? What is the descent rate at various weights? That's the pics I want to see. How realistic is the FDE? Do you have the technical knowledge to know if what is being displayed is correct? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr Nope. But I have 2 actual 747-400 manuals from 2 different airlines with real performance data to cross check. Ahhh so you're an expert then, so tell me, what aircraft addons have you done and sold or are you just here to criticize something that hasn't even been released yet? -Patrick Kazmierczak Prepar3D, FSX, FSX-SE, X-Plane 10 Specs: AMD [email protected], 16gb ram, EVGA GTX970FTW+, Windows 10
November 18, 20169 yr I haven't cristised not one single add-on nor the PMDG 747-400......at all. So surely you must be mistaken? Actually you've done nothing but that in this thread. You've criticized people for not posting the screenshots you want, all so you can claim to be an expert because you have a couple of books and you just know what to look for. Despite the fact that the design and tech ream includes data direct from Boeing and pilots that have real experience on the bird. But hey, you have a couple of books 'amiright! But I digress, you continue to be as entitled as you want to be. I'm done with this discussion. -Patrick Kazmierczak Prepar3D, FSX, FSX-SE, X-Plane 10 Specs: AMD [email protected], 16gb ram, EVGA GTX970FTW+, Windows 10
November 18, 20169 yr I'm just saying I don't see the point in posting 'atomospheric' pics. I want to know like everyone if it will be accurate BEFORE. I purchase it. Other wise I won't purchase it. How would you know if it is accurate unless you've flown one? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr Lol. Seriousley? Seriously. How would you know if the PMDG B744 is accurate unless you've flown a B744? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr But I have 2 actual 747-400 manuals from 2 different airlines with real performance data to cross check. You should look into what PMDG stands for and/or its history and you'd find that procuring manuals would 1) be easy for them and 2) likely be the first thing they've read for any aircraft development. I'm not sure why I'm feeding you, anyway. The current South Park season is dedicated to folks like you. Garrett Frank
November 18, 20169 yr Why would all of a sudden the RW 747-400 manuals i have (helps to know ppl. ) be any different? What is "ppl"? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr Er....performance data from a real manual would be close? Don't you think? Do you know how the data is developed in the various manuals? Every B744 is different, every B744 engine is different. No two engines produce the same amount of power and no two B744s fly exactly the same. blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr People. Lol < laughing out loud.Omg. It helps even more to have an ATPL, a type rating and 25,000 hours. :smile: blaustern I have two different engine variants with my manuals. Different data. And indeed all fly different. But it's a good guide. Otherwise it's a complete moot point for PMDG to use ANY rw data. Don't you think? How can you expect PMDG to agree exactly with your manuals when real world B744s will not agree exactly with the manual? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 18, 20169 yr Ok Simon, what is your point here? I get it, you're a contrarian. Like all of us were when we were younger. Thus you're arguing with anyone that will listen. Congrats, you've come across some Boeing manuals and you seem to scratch the surface with understanding how difficult it is to model an aircraft's behavior. Anything else? Garrett Frank
November 18, 20169 yr Author Simon, if it helps your quest for knowledge about the product at all, EPR and N1 values look to be bang on across the range. The airplane flies by the numbers. For example, in the actual 744 you can set manually about 70% N1 on approach then manage the speed with progressive flap/gear deployment right down to the desired approach speed, this simulation allows that to be done from my testing. Given that the developers have stated that the airplane will be an accurate representation of the real thing, and that it is tested and validated by numerous real-life 744 pilots, engineers and technical experts, you can rest assured of that being the case. The aim of posting pictures here is to provide forum users with a glimpse of the airplane they will be flying on release date. Our role here is to test first and foremost, and there's nothing particularly exciting about 95% of that process. When we get a chance to show off an aspect of the simulation, the most popularly received format seems to be images of the airplane that show off the high standard of modelling. Hence, these pictures. If I got a clear message that it was wasting people's time to do so, I'd be happy to devote my time to just crunching the numbers and providing feedback to the devs, and stay off here altogether. ;-) Mark Adeane - NZWN
November 18, 20169 yr Commercial Member Some of th Caredando add-ons and Flight 1 B200 add-ons have actual RW performance (which I crossed checked with some real pilots) which help to see if accurate. Or close. We have an entire Tech Team of people who fly, have flown, or maintain the 400, specifically. Manuals are great, but they won't give you the entire picture. I saw earlier, you've flown some of the small stuff. I'd be very surprised if you got even close to book numbers (or even close to them) in a 150 or Warrior. Kyle Rodgers
November 18, 20169 yr Author We have an entire Tech Team of people who fly, have flown, or maintain the 400, specifically. Manuals are great, but they won't give you the entire picture. I saw earlier, you've flown some of the small stuff. I'd be very surprised if you got even close to book numbers (or even close to them) in a 150 or Warrior. My aero club has 5 Cessna 152s, not one of them flies the exact book number for cruise. One of them is about 5-10 knots faster across the applicable RPM range in cruise. It's my favourite, naturally. If only I had more time to fly it! Mark Adeane - NZWN
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