Something is wrong with this picture - that looks like SMP - never seen clouds like that in xenviro but seen tons of shots of SMP that look like that - something strange going on - great fps assume its XP10

 

It's definitely not SMP. I used Control Panel uninstall in Win 10 to remove SMP and RWC before installing XEnviro, just to make sure there were no conflicts.

 

This is XP11 pb3. The frame rate is deceiving, because that's the actual size of the window I'm running on my 1920x1200 monitor (1521x910) while I run tests like this. Easy to get a high frame rate with the resolution that low, but I'm still in the 40+ fps zone when running fullscreen at 1920x1200. That's on a GTX 970 video card. Higher resolutions like 4k will kill your frame rate, there's no getting around that. 

In your last photo, I saw the exact same thing today on a flight from KLAX to KSBA, via a westerly coastal path.  For a while, the same area along the coast looked as if the mesh wasn't loading as quickly as it should.  I do not believe this issue to be tied to XEnviro, as my flight was performed without it, although I was using XP's default weather, so perhaps the two issues are tied to weather generation...just a thought.

 

I do think it's tied to XEnviro, because I've done many flights in XP11 betas both in default weather and more recently in SkyMaxx Pro v4, and I've never seen anything like that. First time I saw it was after installing XEnviro.

Hey @Paraffin

 

I actually had the same clouds in your first screenshot, have you gone through the Xenviro settings?  Mine looked like this until I turned on upper and lower skies, something like that.  Then, it all went from ugly to good.  Even the sky color changed.  Of course, the slow/disconnect on updates is still my problem.

 

I can only assume the vis limit you imposed caused the bubble around your craft.

 

It's a great program, I'm just really struggling with their server/weather data source problem.

Hey @Paraffin

 

I actually had the same clouds in your first screenshot, have you gone through the Xenviro settings?  Mine looked like this until I turned on upper and lower skies, something like that.  Then, it all went from ugly to good.  Even the sky color changed.  Of course, the slow/disconnect on updates is still my problem.

 

Thanks for the info. I noticed just now that the upper and lower atmosphere clouds default to off, so I'll try that turned on for the next test flight. I just assumed that the default settings had the best representation of weather, but this may have a frame rate hit and that's why they don't default to on. Anyway, I'll try it.

 

I can only assume the vis limit you imposed caused the bubble around your craft.

 

 

Yep, that's my assumption also. But manual adjustment like this is necessary, if they want this to be anything other than a sim for tubeliner pilots who can always follow an ILS to touchdown. 

 

It they just faded the transition better and extended the range then it might work, so it doesn't look like such an artificial barrier.

Just tried another flight with my other FSE aircraft -- a Bell 412 helicopter from LFAT Paris-Plage, Le Touquet, France to EGTK Kidlington, Oxford, United Kingdom. 

 

With the RVR reduced to zero to eliminate the "wall" effect, it was totally socked in with the current weather injection. Zero visibility at ground level up to 1000 feet where I wanted to fly in the helo. I hit CAVOK in the plugin, which did clear the weather this time with no artifacts. 

 

But I don't want a binary choice between "zero visibility" or CAVOK for real weather, so again I don't know if XEnviro is something I can use for low-level VFR flying. I'll try that flight again tomorrow and see what happens. 

Thanks for the info. I noticed just now that the upper and lower atmosphere clouds default to off, so I'll try that turned on for the next test flight. I just assumed that the default settings had the best representation of weather, but this may have a frame rate hit and that's why they don't default to on. Anyway, I'll try it.

 

You'll see the difference on the next flight with similar weather and clouds.  It changes the sky colors and takes the edge off the clouds, looks nice.  Only reason I knew was my first flight looked the same before I found those settings.  Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I noticed just now that the upper and lower atmosphere clouds default to off, so I'll try that turned on for the next test flight. I just assumed that the default settings had the best representation of weather, but this may have a frame rate hit and that's why they don't default to on. Anyway, I'll try it.

 

Odd that default is off because I read that off actually means you are using default XP...?

Odd that default is off because I read that off actually means you are using default XP...?

 

I don't think so. With the upper and lower atmosphere cloud check boxes in their default (off) state, I still wasn't seeing any clouds or winds in XP's own weather settings menu. My understanding was that XEnviro takes over the weather system completely when it's running,

 

So unless there is something else going on "under the hood," I think the default settings mean it's only generating a single middle altitude cloud layer. Possibly to save on frame rate for lower spec systems, but that's just a guess. The current manual doesn't show those settings.

From the changelog:

- Upper atmosphere checkbox (sky representation).

- Lower atmosphere checkbox (to display haze, fog and low level scattering).

 

I think Upper On means that X-Enviro will create sky colors depending on the circumstances and with Upper Off the sky will be the default XP sky. The Lower option seems self explanatory. Both options off will, I suppose, indeed be better for performance but it will disable major parts of the addon...

Anyone else getting big frame drops during what appears to be weather updates with 1.06?  I don't remember seeing this issue with the previous versions.  I also am curious what the "Clouds crossfade speed" slider does and if it has an effect on weather updates.

HT must be off in the Nvidia panel to avoid poor performance and stutters in X-Plane. It's a known bug.

DJJose

 

Its more CPU related than the GPU is where I seeing the difference. On my setup, xEnviro seem to not like HT on when running X Plane 11 in that mode.

 

Thread Optimization on or off does not make any differences, although I am aware about the performance hit which is why leave my off too.

 

For now I won't worry about it, its works with HT off on my system until we get more updates from LR and xEnviro. Both products, X Plane 11, for one being in beta and the other xEnviro (should be beta IMO) will just wait and see if anything gets iron out before trying it again. I know others reported no issue that I having so it may something unique. So I will hold off for now before I bring this to their attention if continues to occur. The updates have been rather quick so it may not be too long before we will something. 

 

 

Bob

When it's working, Xenviro is absolutely the best looking option for X-Plane (still not totally sold on winds aloft) and is a great product.  But, the server issues and how it gets the actual weather data to load definitely need attention.

 

be77solo

 

No doubt.

 

In spite of this short comings, it is best looking weather depiction I have ever seen. I have got so accustom to the use that I will not fly without in on. 

 

It would help if they had more than one sever running, not sure if they do, but it will also help if they had some status window, showing the connecting and download process with the latest update time and day. This is so you know it connecting and working. It does not break the immersion but would give the peace of mind that it is function without getting too far in the flight planning process only realize it connection failed. 

 

I just look on their road map and it appears that the Wind and turbulence was move up in priority and appears they are working to be release in version 1.1  from where it was originally in 1.4. Its possible that they maybe addressing that issue that maybe causing some connectivity issue. With them being new and no dynamic server status page, I don't know if they at rebooting the server to test their fixes.  In my line of work we have send notification when something is interrupted. There no way to know other than to look metar information or files for updates or in sky on cloudy day.

 

As for my issue at the moment, I went back and forth about four times with Hyper-threading on and off and with it on the still shows a clear day with no clouds. With it off, the clouds loads up without a problem, so for now I will just leave it off (which I normally run anyway)  until the next update and then see if any there any changes. At this point, I am not sure if its XEviron or X Plane 11 given this strange behavior while we are dealing with a beta, I will give it some time before I start raising the issue.

 

Bob

 

 

As for my issue at the moment, I went back and forth about four times with Hyper-threading on and off and with it on the still shows a clear day with no clouds.

 

Just to be clear, you mean Threaded Optimisation...?

Just to be clear, you mean Threaded Optimisation...?

 

No Hyper-threading is in your bios

Just to be clear, you mean Threaded Optimisation...?

LOL Maybe we can ask nVidia to rename that option to something else and NOT similar to HT?!

Just to be clear, you mean Threaded Optimisation...?

Scotchegg

 

No 

 

I talking about Hyper-threading which you only control in the BIOS. Changing the number of CPU processes per core.

 

In a i7 3930K it has 6 core and I was set at its base 6 process per core. That's with HT off.

 

When I turn on HT I am going from 6 to 12 process, 2 per core. Somehow on my machine no clouds appear when running xEnviron just the sky color effect. What also forget to mention when you turn xEnviron off and set X Plane 11 to real weather, the cloud appear.

 

Threading Optimization is controlled in the Nvidia which is not the issue I am having.

 

 

 

On 2nd thought I am going ahead and submit at ticket, just to see what they say and get back to everyone. 

 

Bob