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X-Enviro is OUT

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Low and slow flying is great if you can get decent enough weather in the places you want to fly in. It happens to be winter here and we've just had a hail storm and strong winds, and it gets worse in the evenings when I generally use the sim. When the weather is nice and warm, I don't want to be in the house behind a computer. So can't win here  :smile:. 

 

At this point i have to say that i have totally misunderstood your post. You were talking about visibility and wind that cannot be customized to fits your needs. XD

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For those using Xenviro + xp11.. are you also doing any sort of haze tweaking.. or does everyone feel the default haze depiction is real life accurate to some extent?

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Low and slow flying is great with XEnviro.  I don't have screen shots, but the flights I have made have been extremely accurate and realistic.  No complaints here.  I don't know where the info came from that XEnviro is only for high altitude flying.  Maybe some people are used to unrealistic cumulus clouds everywhere in all seasons, but I am finding that Xenviro is great when it comes to VFR flying, at least at this time of year in the SE USA  I have not tried summer flying, so maybe I need to try some southern hemisphere flights.  

 

I have the same problem as Tony -- bad weather in my flying area right now in the Pacific Northwest (Washington state, then up the western side of Canada to Alaska). It's one of my preferred flying areas and where I have one of my FSEconomy planes based, so I have to deal with the weather I'm dealt in the plugin.

 

Which should be GREAT.... I love flying in dicey weather, scud running under a cloud deck, pushing the limits of a VFR flight in cowboy bush pilot mode.

 

At least I can back down the winds in the plugin. But as for low-level clouds, what I'm getting in XEnviro is just a wall of fog or low viz advancing ahead of me, and that doesn't look very realistic. SkyMaxx Pro actually does a better job right now at very low flight levels. But I only have a half dozen or so test flights in XEnviro so far, and i'm still experimenting. I'll try to post some screen shots if I get anything interesting and realistic that doesn't just look like a bug.

 

P.S. Wouldn't you know it, we actually have clear blue skies this week, so I'll have to wait a few days for the weather to change. Maybe I'll skip around somewhere else in Europe or New Zealand to find some bad weather.

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For those using Xenviro + xp11.. are you also doing any sort of haze tweaking.. or does everyone feel the default haze depiction is real life accurate to some extent?

 

I think its way too much for CAVOK (especially in winter conditions).. I tried tweaking datarefs for haze, but I think xEnviro has a lock on them- they keep snapping back to different values.

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I have the same problem as Tony -- bad weather in my flying area right now in the Pacific Northwest (Washington state, then up the western side of Canada to Alaska). It's one of my preferred flying areas and where I have one of my FSEconomy planes based, so I have to deal with the weather I'm dealt in the plugin.

 

Which should be GREAT.... I love flying in dicey weather, scud running under a cloud deck, pushing the limits of a VFR flight in cowboy bush pilot mode.

 

At least I can back down the winds in the plugin. But as for low-level clouds, what I'm getting in XEnviro is just a wall of fog or low viz advancing ahead of me, and that doesn't look very realistic. SkyMaxx Pro actually does a better job right now at very low flight levels. But I only have a half dozen or so test flights in XEnviro so far, and i'm still experimenting. I'll try to post some screen shots if I get anything interesting and realistic that doesn't just look like a bug.

 

P.S. Wouldn't you know it, we actually have clear blue skies this week, so I'll have to wait a few days for the weather to change. Maybe I'll skip around somewhere else in Europe or New Zealand to find some bad weather.

 

 

That's weird. I was in PNW yesterday in the wind and clouds and getting some pretty accurate representations with xEnviro.

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/501043-now-thats-a-dramatic-sky/#entry3541338

 

Having said that getting close to some of the isolated clouds exposed their grotty billboardness a bit.

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How does X-Enviro handle changing visibility values? Does it switch like in stock X-Plane, or is there a smoothing algorithm in place?

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There's a slider in the Options menu which allows you to set how fast weather changes after new Metar is loaded. So far I haven't had any abrupt changes.

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Yeah the PNW is awesome to fly and xEnviro does a very good job!

Will upload some screens once I get home :)

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For those using Xenviro + xp11.. are you also doing any sort of haze tweaking.. or does everyone feel the default haze depiction is real life accurate to some extent?

 

If I turn the haze down to 50% (Either in xEnviro or using DatarefEditor, I find it looks quite good. However, there is still something off about it though and I'm not sure what it is. It also seems to have a horrible effect on the trees where they become much lighter than they are and really clash.

So i had a chance to toy more with things.. i took my lua scripts i had in the lua scripts folder out, to see if it helped with weather not being generated by Xenviro.. i think to a degree it did.. however.. i'm not fully impressed, but then again, i'm not unimpressed either.. below you will find some comparisons.. basically Real vs XP11 default vs XP11 Xenviro 1.06 vs P3D ASN + ASCA 16..  personally, i still think the puffy clouds that ASN creates look more detailed and less "fake".. as the XP Xenviro seems more like drawn (but, this might be because of the odd window size i chose to use to snap the shot and keep the dimensions down, unsure).

 

First up.. the real weather (though about 20 min east of the airport in the images, so the puffy clouds are just starting to appear in this photo):

actual.jpg

 

Then XP11 default:

xplanerealdefault.jpg

 

Now XP11 with Xenviro  (seems too thin to me, seems to show blue sky which there really isnt any)

xenviro1.jpg

 

Now P3D with ASN (too many puffy clouds i think, but better detailing):

p3dasn.jpg

 

Here are my settings for Xenviro

xplanexenvirosettings.jpg

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I think that xE does a better job of reflecting real life pic in my view, XP default sucks and ASN shows way too many clouds.

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Now XP11 with Xenviro  (seems too thin to me, seems to show blue sky which there really isnt any)

 

God X-Enviro... how horrible can your puffs get...

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Currently giving X-Plane 12.10 a spin on Shadow PC. 10 years with X-Plane now, since 10.20

God X-Enviro... how horrible can your puffs get...

 

This is the wonder of it all, each person sees, focuses on what they find important.  To me, the XE looks best overall.  The puffs on ASN are worse to me, and reflect a mid-summer cumulus--so they are also way out of context.

To each his or her own :)

 

 

Individual clouds look atrocious in xE, really hope this is fixed soon. Those textures are horrible quality.

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I think that xE does a better job of reflecting real life pic in my view, XP default sucks and ASN shows way too many clouds.

Agree on this much 

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