12 minutes ago, Cory Collier said:

both of which are done by simbrief

I find it surprising that you use a service like this, but are still somehow baffled by my reference to fuel numbers. That output gives you quite a lot of data. I'd be interested in knowing the numbers its giving you: ZFW, TOW, BLOCK FUEL, FUEL AT DEST, and so on. It really isn't this tough.

I need data. I've asked for data. Please provide data. Do note that your last post is completely devoid of any number related to fuel.

So...final request:

ALL fuel data numbers and so on that you have access to. If I don't get it, you're on your own here in the forum, unless you'd like to submit a formal request through the support portal, where I'll be asking you for the same information.

15 minutes ago, Cory Collier said:

I've done this....God knows how many times, no issues until that one day. As I type this I'm on approach (15nm out) to Sydney

I've drank water since I was a small child. I still occasionally swallow incorrectly from time to time and end up coughing. Doesn't matter how many times you do something - you can still do it incorrectly.

So far, you're really continuing down the path of showing me that you are not doing this correctly. Even a broken clock is correct twice daily - just means you looked at it at the right time and got lucky that it was the right time.

that was all just off the top of My head. THOSE numbers I'll have to get you in a few. just landed and am about to pull a United and throw people off this bird, and restart My sim and all that fun shi...err stuff. once I get to a point where I can give you those...I shall....

 

Sidenote....unlike United...I don't lose pets, or stuff them in the overhead bin

9 hours ago, Cory Collier said:

that was all just off the top of My head. THOSE numbers I'll have to get you in a few. just landed and am about to pull a United and throw people off this bird, and restart My sim and all that fun shi...err stuff. once I get to a point where I can give you those...I shall....

 

Sidenote....unlike United...I don't lose pets, or stuff them in the overhead bin

what is wrong with you ?

Hello Cory,

I have skimmed through your posts and there are a couple of things that I'd like to see clarified.

First I felt that you attempt to fly at max alt all the way to your destination. Secondly, it seems that you are using the V/S mode instead of the VNAV mode for the climb. Thirdly, you haven't unless I missed it stated what weather you use in your simulator.

As previously said, an aircraft is almost never intended to fly at the max altitude but at the closest optimum altitude to the relevant flight level (RVSM rules). As per these rules, a flight level ending by 5 (e.g.: FL345) is invalid.

Except for some exceptions like transatlantic and transpacific flights, the usual way to fly, is to climb to the initial optimum flight level (once again taking into account the RVSM odd/even levels) and then climb on the calculated step climb as the aircraft loses weight consuming fuel.

Also V/S in normally not used in climb as it doesn't offer speed protection. VNAV should be used.

 

Then when you have to consider the weather enroutes and more specifically the winds aloft that can make a great difference in fuel required. Over the Atlantic or the Pacific, you can have winds well above 100kt so on long haul, the difference whether you have headwind or tailwind, the difference of required fuel can be in tens of tons.

Now, since you say that you didn't have that problem before the power shutdown, have you investigated the effects of that power shutdown out of your sim, on the harware or software?

On some motherboards, a default with the clock used to induce weird behaviours on advanced addons. Have you checked that the power shutdown hasn't drown you motherboard battery down for exemple?

Also, a sudden shutdown can have negative effects on Windows and other softwares. Have you done some checks? 

If you use a software injecting weather in the sim, is it still properly interfaced with the sim...

I don't see though how the shutdown could have directly affected the PMDG QOTS II.

14 hours ago, 30K said:

what is wrong with you ?

It's called a dark sense of humor. It's what keeps some of us going in the times today. Guess you never saw the memes about United hiring Negan as a flight attendant....or any of the other United Airlines Memes that pop up every time they screw the pooch....

OH...and I guess you haven't listened to Weird Al Yankovich's parody of Cats in the Cradle, "Cat's in the Kettle".....

8 hours ago, Budbud said:

Hello Cory,

I have skimmed through your posts and there are a couple of things that I'd like to see clarified.

First I felt that you attempt to fly at max alt all the way to your destination. Secondly, it seems that you are using the V/S mode instead of the VNAV mode for the climb. Thirdly, you haven't unless I missed it stated what weather you use in your simulator.

As previously said, an aircraft is almost never intended to fly at the max altitude but at the closest optimum altitude to the relevant flight level (RVSM rules). As per these rules, a flight level ending by 5 (e.g.: FL345) is invalid.

Except for some exceptions like transatlantic and transpacific flights, the usual way to fly, is to climb to the initial optimum flight level (once again taking into account the RVSM odd/even levels) and then climb on the calculated step climb as the aircraft loses weight consuming fuel.

Also V/S in normally not used in climb as it doesn't offer speed protection. VNAV should be used.

 

Then when you have to consider the weather enroutes and more specifically the winds aloft that can make a great difference in fuel required. Over the Atlantic or the Pacific, you can have winds well above 100kt so on long haul, the difference whether you have headwind or tailwind, the difference of required fuel can be in tens of tons.

Now, since you say that you didn't have that problem before the power shutdown, have you investigated the effects of that power shutdown out of your sim, on the harware or software?

On some motherboards, a default with the clock used to induce weird behaviours on advanced addons. Have you checked that the power shutdown hasn't drown you motherboard battery down for exemple?

Also, a sudden shutdown can have negative effects on Windows and other softwares. Have you done some checks? 

If you use a software injecting weather in the sim, is it still properly interfaced with the sim...

I don't see though how the shutdown could have directly affected the PMDG QOTS II.

Why does everyone keep saying I'm flying at max alt? Max for the 744 is like several thousand feet higher. The certificated ceiling is 45,100'..

as for using V/S....yeah...for some stupid reason it's not wanting to use VNAV all the time. sometimes it will sometimes it won't... Though....whenever I'm using VNAV I've found it does not keep Me under 250 while under FL100.

as for the route...I use the same one every time. no sense making a new one as each time I go to get the route it gives Me the same one every time.
you're welcome to compare with what you get.. Here's my flight plans for the round trip: http://www.rhdcemeteries.org/AmericanAirways/FLIGHTPLANS/747/
 

as you probably know...default atc makes you climb to the alt that you have set as your cruise alt, and if you don't climb fast enough....they let ya know.....repeatedly.

 

the ONLY thing affected was My 747 when the power shut off...which I an't seem to figure out. It makes no sense. EVERYTHING else works 100% perfectly, which is what makes this so odd. I'm not the only one with this problem either. back on page 1, several other people (including the OP) mentioned they were having it (which is why I posted on this thread. no point starting a new one).

as for weather....I THINK I said real world via FSX

26 minutes ago, Cory Collier said:

Why does everyone keep saying I'm flying at max alt? Max for the 744 is like several thousand feet higher. The certificated ceiling is 45,100'..

Because you yourself said:

On 3/6/2018 at 10:16 AM, Cory Collier said:

Cruise alt was FL345.

Followed by:

On 3/6/2018 at 11:56 AM, Cory Collier said:

Tell that to the FMC lol it said max alt was 345

Yes, the service ceiling for the Boeing 747-400 may be 45,100, but at the weight that you were at, the plane wouldn't have been capable of flying above 34,500, which is what the FMC was telling you.

29 minutes ago, Cory Collier said:

as you probably know...default atc makes you climb to the alt that you have set as your cruise alt, and if you don't climb fast enough....they let ya know.....repeatedly.

You really shouldn't be using default ATC anyhow, as it isn't realistic and won't take into account the step climbs that you'll need to make throughout the flight.

1 hour ago, Captain Kevin said:

You really shouldn't be using default ATC anyhow, as it isn't realistic and won't take into account the step climbs that you'll need to make throughout the flight.

I don't use it for the full flight honestly lol (who would???). At some point I'm gonna ignore them. WHEN just depends on where I'm at in the flight, so to speak. It's either the final hand-off RIGHT before cruise...or right after. I'll tune, but not contact.

Doing YSSY - KDFW now. FMC said 344, though I'm at 350 as I didn't modify the flight plan after setting up the FMC. 4.09% done the flight and tanks are at.....92% so it's lookin' good so far.

I DO have a bit of a um stupid question.....HOW THE HELL do I adjust trim during pre-flight? I'm using this as My guide: http://smithplanet.com/fs2004/pmdg/#preflight (this is easier than a video for Me). Yeah It's for FS9 but I couldn't find squat like this for FSX. 

Yeah, I tried uh 1 & 7 but didn't do squat. Guessing I should adjust trim after engine start?

Also (ok ok more than one stupid question)......I'm using the Thrustmaster Hotas X and the buttons for flaps, gear, spoilers, brake, door (though I use the FMC for that since I HAVE to open the door to load passengers for one of  My flight trackers) , and engine startup all work....BUT I can't seem to activate the landing lights with the button I have set. Works on all aircraft but  the 744? Is that just a PMDG thing or what? I mean...not a huge deal just curious is all :) it's mostly a convenience thing, ya know? :)

Cory,

I will go through what I want to say without a lot of humor now as I have just woken up and look a bit like Harry Potter after his first travel with Floo Powder... or after his first night with Ginny... Whatever..

There are some things I feel you would appreciate some assistance.. I'm not a pro on the 747 but some things never change on Boeings :D

The thing with the max altitude was actually said, but I think you confuse Max (recommended) with max certified. The FMS of my 737 right now says CRZ ALT FL370 (what I have chosen), OPT FL381 (calculated optimum flight level for eco fuel burn but not to be used for RVSM rules) and MAX 395. This is the maximum flight level the airplane is recommending right now, as it can be reached with certain factors. (you can climb there with a certain rate, you can hold a certain airspeed blabla). But my fuel burn would be higher than I want it to be. A lot higher. As soon as my OPT ALT would come closer to FL390 I will start a 2000ft step climb to FL390, using VNAV.

Regarding your issues with VNAV:

There is actually no 

3 hours ago, Cory Collier said:

for some stupid reason it's not wanting to use VNAV all the time. sometimes it will sometimes it won't... Though....whenever I'm using VNAV I've found it does not keep Me under 250 while under FL100.

VNAV is a very depending flight mode. It depends on what you have entered in your FMS. As I have mentioned, I'm no 747 pro and I only have the pretty much newer 738 here at the moment. But some things are very similar. 

On the VNAV climb page you can set your climb speed. The 747 is very heavy and doesn't feel too well at lower speeds, all above when you fly half around the world. In reality the 747 would very likely receive a high speed approval and would not be restricted to 250kias below FL100. Not sure about the USA or Australia, but I know this very well for Frankfurt and Amsterdam (Lufthansa and KLM 744/748). BUT If you needed to stay at 250kts you are able to set this in the FMS. at the VNAV CLB page you can enter speed restrictions. By default it might be 280/10000, not sure. Later (hgher) it is probably a Mach number. Just check it. If you enter what you need, the airplane will be restricted to this entry. But keep in mind that the nose will likely stay up quite a bit when you're close to your MTOW. again this is not very economical, most airplanes are on their most eco flight attitute somewhere around 2-3° nose up. Right now my 737 pitches up to 3° at a bit less than OPT FL. 

1 hour ago, Cory Collier said:

HOW THE HELL do I adjust trim during pre-flight?

on the Take off page you are asked for a CG. just click this Key, the PMDG airplane will enter your actual CG value and calculate the required trim setting for you. Now you can use your normal elevator trim to move your stab trim (actually it's the elev trim but moves the complete horizontal stabilizer) to that given value. The read out is next to the throttles on the left side of the pedestal. You need hydraulics to to that.

 

1 hour ago, Cory Collier said:

BUT I can't seem to activate the landing lights

Please take a look at your introduction manual (and don't kill me for this answer :P). You can set this via the FMS PMDG options menu. Why I say manual is because there is a lot more you can set than I would remember now and than I could explain now. But you can assign the lights to keyboard keys and then use this key or use FSUIPC (or maybe the hotas software?) to bind the key to a joystick button... 

 

I hope this helps you a bit. and man.... Chill ;) This is a hobby...

 

Edit: As I just read again what I have written: during climb below FL100 you can also use FL Change Mode and set your speed to 250... it is still saver and better than VS. You can also do that for step climbs and chose a mach number and FLCH. And even in VNAV mode you can overwrite the computed airspeed by just choosing a manual speed. depress the speed knob and set 250. VNAV will hold it.

Edited March 27, 20188 yr by Ephedrin

1 hour ago, Ephedrin said:

250 while under FL100

1 hour ago, Ephedrin said:

By default it might be 280/10000

For info, contrary to the 737 and 777 where the hard coded SPD TRANS below 10000 is 250, the FMC of the 747 will calculate by default Vref+100 for the current GW. This is why at it is usually above the 250/10000.

If you want to force the FMC to command 250/10000 you can enter it in the VNAV CLB page of the CDU under the SPD TRANS in the box SPD REST.

 

5 hours ago, Cory Collier said:

as you probably know...default atc makes you climb to the alt that you have set as your cruise alt, and if you don't climb fast enough....they let ya know.....repeatedly.

I stopped using the default ATC since FSX as it is completely unrealistic.

3 hours ago, Cory Collier said:

Doing YSSY - KDFW now. FMC said 344, though I'm at 350

Not sure what you mean. The FMC on the 747 gives you two values, the max altitude and the opt alt.Which one are you referring to for the "344"? 

Edited March 27, 20188 yr by Budbud

7 hours ago, Captain Kevin said:

You really shouldn't be using default ATC anyhow, as it isn't realistic and won't take into account the step climbs that you'll need to make throughout the flight.

Default ATC is useless en route but it does add some immersion for departure and arrival. I use it for that myself. Not very realistic but better than nothing. 

Are you ever going to start following PMDG rules on signatures? Everyone else does. 

Edited March 27, 20188 yr by kevinh

1 hour ago, kevinh said:

Default ATC is useless en route but it does add some immersion for departure and arrival. I use it for that myself. Not very realistic but better than nothing. 

Are you ever going to start following PMDG rules on signatures? Everyone else does. 

yes, it is completely useless en route, which is why I ignore them during cruise..

What the hell you talking about, "are you ever going to start following PMDG Rules on signatures?" My name is in My signature....maybe you're just not seeing it? It's been on every single post.... http://prntscr.com/ix1e6w

though, MAYBE you should worry about your own, before coming after Me? :) http://prntscr.com/ix1eju

 

...an entire extra page and we're still at an impasse because someone is more concerned about pointing out flaws in other people's arguments, instead of providing the numbers I've been asking for, for how long now?

Moreover, quit using the old third party FS9 guide.

Tutorial and Intro Manual.

 

Again: I find it entirely baffling that someone expects the plane to behave realistically when they are clearly showing they do not know how to properly operate it. There's nothing wrong with not knowing. Standing in the position of not knowing, however, and hurling accusations...that's a different story.

6 hours ago, Ephedrin said:

You need hydraulics to to that.

Please take a look at your introduction manual (and don't kill me for this answer :P). You can set this via the FMS PMDG options menu. Why I say manual is because there is a lot more you can set than I would remember now and than I could explain now. But you can assign the lights to keyboard keys and then use this key or use FSUIPC (or maybe the hotas software?) to bind the key to a joystick button... 

Hydraulics...right...DUR lol Like I said...stupid question. It was late and I was tired when doing pre-flight.

as for lights...I've got it mapped in FSX, and it works for every aircraft but PMDG.  http://prntscr.com/ix1lgd all the other key bindings work, except that one... CTRL L is even set in the FMC for landing lights.

3 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

...an entire extra page and we're still at an impasse because someone is more concerned about pointing out flaws in other people's arguments, instead of providing the numbers I've been asking for, for how long now?

Moreover, quit using the old third party FS9 guide.

Tutorial and Intro Manual.

 

Again: I find it entirely baffling that someone expects the plane to behave realistically when they are clearly showing they do not know how to properly operate it. There's nothing wrong with not knowing. Standing in the position of not knowing, however, and hurling accusations...that's a different story.

I wasn't the one who started the thread I just found it. I told you, I'll get the numbers when I get the chance.

The guide maybe for FS9...but it's accurate, it's effective, and it's SIMPLE...which is what a guide is supposed to be. your beloved manual, on the other hand...is SUPER Long-winded. Just might print this out and read it at night when I have trouble falling asleep...

14 minutes ago, Cory Collier said:

The guide maybe for FS9...but it's accurate, it's effective, and it's SIMPLE...which is what a guide is supposed to be. your beloved manual, on the other hand...is SUPER Long-winded. Just might print this out and read it at night when I have trouble falling asleep...

Great. In the meantime, quit acting like everyone owes you something: the plane is not working as you expect it to work because you're too lazy to put in the work required to learn how to use it.

The Intro is broken out into sections. These are easily digested or searched using CTRL+F for any pop-up questions. Running through the tutorial takes exactly as long as the flight does, so you're not really out any 'extra' time for reading. It's like a narrated flight.

As promised, though...my patience is beyond worn, so...if you need us, reach out to us via the Support Portal. The sim is on a computer. Your SimBrief numbers are accessed through that computer. This forum is also accessed via a computer. The only reason you don't have the numbers is you're choosing not to offer them for some reason. It took you longer to make your post just now than it would've taken you to log into SimBrief, find your last flight, copy, and paste.

Get out of your own way, Cory. Nobody's holding you back here except yourself.