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I would posit that although metrics for XP10 are bound to be representative of general use, the metrics for XP11 don't mean much at this point. A lot of us aren't fully setting up XP11 with all the aircraft & scenery that we might once it hits release.

 

Still very interesting to see though.

 

I often wonder how many odd-use cases skew the statistics. For example, I've spent 100's of hours in XP10 for scenery development purposes on my laptop, where I don't have any controls other than a mouse plugged in.

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Thanks for posting.

 

What amazes me is the 2GB range. It was not so long ago that I was in that group and the sim just does not run well. Maybe at the time I was blind to it, but after jumping from 15fps to 60 there is really no going back.

 

Additonally 31.81% Mac users. Time to start taking us Mac fans seriously.


I would posit that although metrics for XP10 are bound to be representative of general use, the metrics for XP11 don't mean much at this point. A lot of us aren't fully setting up XP11 with all the aircraft & scenery that we might once it hits release.

This is very much true. I don't use purchased aircraft in XP11 because they simply don't work.

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Additonally 31.81% Mac users. Time to start taking us Mac fans seriously.

 

What other choice for a full featured sim do Mac users have?

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What other choice for a full featured sim do Mac users have?

 

Bootcamp, sad but true.

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I often wonder how many odd-use cases skew the statistics. For example, I've spent 100's of hours in XP10 for scenery development purposes on my laptop, where I don't have any controls other than a mouse plugged in.

If you read down in the comments section, someone makes mention about mouse usage, to which it's said that that info was recorded.  I'm guilty of it, if I'm in the middle of other things and discover a new airport or plugin available, and after download and install, I'll fire up XP and check it out, but with no flight controller attached.

 

The metrica aren't an exact science, and as it's pointed out, XP11 info is still too early to gauge, but I think it gives LR a base to work from for progression's sake.

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...and I suspect this is actually quite a large percentage. I very often fire up the sim with no controllers when I'm developing or installing a new scenery, pan or fly around and then quit. I think it's far more common than people realise, especially looking at the stats.

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I'm not :smile: . Don't forget that the hardcore simmers at Avsim are probably a small but very vocal part of the real user base who probably spend the most money an addons. Most I guess are casual users who buy the sim, use a few items and move on to another "game". I've also bought many non flight sim based sims I use a few times and think meh... not for me. 

 

If you want a good idea of usage check out YouTube comments (if you can stomach it) on channels such as Paul's (Squirrel) and MattDavies. You'll get a much better idea of where the majority of users are (and it's not here or x-plane.org)

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I'm not :smile: . Don't forget that the hardcore simmers at Avsim are probably a small but very vocal part of the real user base who probably spend the most money an addons. Most I guess are casual users who buy the sim, use a few items and move on to another "game". I've also bought many non flight sim based sims I use a few times and think meh... not for me. 

 

If you want a good idea of usage check out YouTube comments (if you can stomach it) on channels such as Paul's (Squirrel) and MattDavies. You'll get a much better idea of where the majority of users are (and it's not here or x-plane.org)

 

Blasphemer  :Shame On You:   :wink:

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I wonder why they didn't include 32 GB RAM? I can't be the only one using it.

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I'm using 32GB as well, I don't find it a limiting factor (Unless you have 8GB or less). Video RAM, yes absolutely

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Erm... there's hardly any official XP11 aircraft addons, of course people are using more default

 

Stupid metric to put out. Wait a year then put it out

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Exactly, most of my aircraft addons don't work in XP11 so I use the C172, it's no surprise the usage is skewed

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About the only useful variable is OS by user. Poor little Linux down there. I suppose system RAM is accurate too and gpu type

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I'm surprised about the video RAM if I'm honest. Such stats are useful to me as a scenery developer, I can see I have to be more careful

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I'm using 32GB as well, I don't find it a limiting factor (Unless you have 8GB or less). Video RAM, yes absolutely

 

With the extended scenery they were recommending as much ram as possible. 16 seemed logical, but I wanted a bit more futureproofing. So..... 32 it is.

 

Even though I suspect it's massive overkill.

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How much RAM is too much RAM? I don't think you can have too much, I have 64GB, that will probably be a drop in the bucket a couple of years from now. Remember when 4kbytes was enough to go to the moon. :-)

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With the extended scenery they were recommending as much ram as possible. 16 seemed logical, but I wanted a bit more futureproofing. So..... 32 it is.

 

Even though I suspect it's massive overkill.

 

It's not overkill if you use the UHD terrain mesh. In XP10, 16 GB was recommended as the minimum for UHD mesh, and 32 GB was recommended if using the (then) optional extended .dsf scenery loading. Now that extended .dsf is a default feature and can't be turned off, that makes 32 GB pretty much a requirement for the UHD scenery and having enough overhead. The lower-res HD terrain mesh still only needs 16 GB, I think. 

 

And yeah, there's no such thing as too much RAM, just for overall system stability if nothing else. My current box can take up to 64 GB but I won't upgrade until it seems necessary. We're just at the start of the XP11 run. There's no telling what will come along in RAM-hungry scenery, aircraft, or weather effects (pretty please!) in the next few years.

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There's no telling what will come along in RAM-hungry scenery, aircraft, or weather effects (pretty please!) in the next few years.

 

I made sure i had room for another 32gb for my rig but if that gets filled, I guess I'll have to just download more ram!  :Big Grin:

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I'm still rocking 8GB and getting along just fine.

 

Although I do want to add more RAM in the near future.

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