May 7, 20179 yr Hi Folks, Gentlemen - "good steer" on the Cheyenne - like dragging a horse to water - I may have a replacement for my DA after all - LOL - my god the graphics are SOOOO much better... Seems to fly well too - just started my testing though - I may like this one... The advice was much appreciated... I think I may even be able to turn N203ES into N118HB if I really put my mind to it... Regards, Scott
May 7, 20179 yr Scott, are you using the .air file that Bill modified or the stock one? I'll be curious what you think of the one Bill did if you choose to install it? I rather like it myself. Also just added the AREZONE - PIPER PA31T CHEYENNE II HQ SOUNDSET, pretty good. Cheers Martin
May 7, 20179 yr Hi Martin, Only have about an hour and a half on it so far - no tweakes yet - as for default sound quality - this one seems far better out of the box than the C310... I like the clicking of the ignition - an effect missing from the DA version ? I only get to use FS on the weekends - so I probably won't get around to tweaks until next weekend but I'll comment when I do... Been using the light version and flew a couple approaches into Key West - she handled nicely... I did notice some surging on the throttles a couple times which I've never seen before - not enough info yet to be useful though - could be something on my end... Regards, Scott
May 7, 20179 yr Author 4 hours ago, scottb613 said: .. I did notice some surging on the throttles a couple times which I've never seen before - not enough info yet to be useful though - could be something on my end... I noticed this as well, after the latest version update.. not enough to be a problem, but noticeable at times. Maybe time to change the fuel filters Bert
May 7, 20179 yr Anybody knows where the propeller deicing switch is ? I notice there is a ammeter I believe for it on the left side, however I could only find the engine and surface de-ice switches up on the overhead... I tried to modify Bert's gauge to make it switch the YD automatically with the AP whilst at the same time allowing AP switching off without switching off the YD, but this is beyond by very modest understanding of xml conditions, I will try later when I have time to learn more. I'm sticking to the code I published above, so I can use Ctrl+D to toggle YD, I'm quite happy with that... I bought the Arezone Sound set (12€ is quite reasonable), it does improve immersion (not a game changer, but it's cheap...) Cheers !
May 7, 20179 yr I also bought the Arezone Sound Set, I like it but there is one concern I have, there is no sound for when you pull back on the props to reduce RPM,. the default sounds have a nice effect but Arezone doesn't have one. I sent them an e-mail regarding this and I'll see if anything happens. I couldn't figure out what files are the ones responsible for this effect in the default, if I could I would just swap them out into the Arezone sound set. But would agree they do improve on the immersion and the price was right. Cheers Martin
May 7, 20179 yr 12 hours ago, MartinRex007 said: Scott, are you using the .air file that Bill modified or the stock one? I'll be curious what you think of the one Bill did if you choose to install it? I rather like it myself. Also just added the AREZONE - PIPER PA31T CHEYENNE II HQ SOUNDSET, pretty good. Cheers Martin I have tweaked this thing several times since I sent my FDE to you guys and I have lost track of exactly which one you have. I have changed the engines and props to help eliminate the surging and give a more accurate simulation of torque control. I am in the process of adjusting the drag, fuel flow, and propeller thrust scalars to match the book. Problem is....I don't have a really good book. The Carenado chart is useless. I have the one from DA, which is pretty comprehensive but I don't know if it is accurate. I don't know if the developers make the charts to fit the simulation or if they take the time to fit the simulation to the RW charts. Anyway, I don't have a RW Cheyenne II POH, so I'll just have to go with the DA charts and hope they are accurate. I'll send you updated stuff when I finish.
May 7, 20179 yr Did you see this (it's a II XL but I believe same engines) : https://www.pilotundflugzeug.de/store/max
May 7, 20179 yr 20 hours ago, scottb613 said: I think I may even be able to turn N203ES into N118HB if I really put my mind to it... That'll make for a nice paint, if you tackle it! Just plan for an exercise in patience...aligning all the parts is vastly more time-consuming than laying out the scheme in Photoshop. Just gotta keep FS running in the background and refresh the textures after each little 1-pixel adjustment...
May 8, 20179 yr Hi Folks, Yeah - opened a ticket on the surging - also the ignition switches are "tied" together ??? You can't operate one without operating both... Hi Dave, Might have to walk my statement back on painting - I normally use ModelConverterX (MCX) to view the model while working on paint jobs - HUGE time saver - unfortunately - when I tried it the textures don't seem to load off the Carenado models... Strange... I know A2A uses BIG textures - they load fine... Question - for those in the know - - - how do you use "Fuel Pumps" on a turbine ??? When do they go on and off ??? Also - on a Learjet - it seems we leave the "Ignition Switches" - on - during critical phases of flight - we don't do this on the Cheyenne - do we ??? Had a good flight from Fort Lauderdale to Exuma in the Bahamas last night - also a fully enjoyed flight... LOL - does this mean it's finally the end for my beloved DA model - like Bert said - it seems as if it will be truly hard to go back now... Thanks... Regards, Scott
May 8, 20179 yr 49 minutes ago, scottb613 said: T1.opened a ticket on the surging - 2.the ignition switches are "tied" together ??? You can't operate one without operating both... 3.how do you use "Fuel Pumps" on a turbine ??? When do they go on and off ??? 4.on a Learjet - it seems we leave the "Ignition Switches" - on - during critical phases of flight - we don't do this on the Cheyenne - do we ??? Hi Scott, 1.Can you describe the 'surging' more detailed? 2.This only happens if you operate them while the plane is still initializing. E.g. if you click on the 'ready to taxi' option, and click on one of the ignition switches while the start sequence is still in progress, then they get out of synch and e.g. move together or alternatively. 3.Fuel pumps on jet engines are normally always on. Theoretically you can fly with them turned off as well but in many cases jet engines tend to flame out easier with increasing altitude without the pumps running 4.Concerning the ignition switches this also mostly depends on the engines tendency to flame out due to engine location, intake lip design etc. E.g. on the Lear the engines are behind the wing which greatly increases the possibility of disturbed airflow entering the intake, hence having the ignition on is a good idea. No such problem on the Cheyenne II.
May 8, 20179 yr Hi Paul, Sure - for reference - I'm using one of the latest versions of P3D.... As you advance the throttles for a take off run - watching the torque gauges - the needles advance steadily then hit what I would describe as a soft notch or step - it doesn't stop on a dime - but the needle stops at this level for a couple seconds - then starts to advance to the next notch where the process is repeated - probably see half a dozen or so occurrences going from cutoff to full throttle... You can feel the plane surge as well during the respective notches - using Chase Plane and the camera reacts to acceleration changes... Doesn't seem to matter if you open the throttle slow or fast... Honestly - I've never seen this before in FS... Thanks for the info as well - so Fuel Pumps on before engine start - then left on... Ignitions only for engine start - got it... I've been meaning to set the plane up for "cold and dark" starts - I'll try that and see if the ignition switches work normally... Anyone have a decent checklist ??? Regards, Scott
May 8, 20179 yr P3D v3.4 as well. I can replicate the 'surging', but only on ground and it's no surging but torque/RPM fluctuations. The prop governor is trying to achieve the desired RPM despite the large changes in torque occuring at the same time. If you advance the throttle slowly from idle to e.g. around 55% (which you should always do!) the prop RPM will increase at the same time to e.g. 2200RPM. If you do a slam acceleration or slowly advance the throttles afterwards, there will be no fluctuations. In flight, if the props are already at their commanded RPM setting I haven't encountered any fluctuations, even when slamming the throttle from idle to max. Ignition is also be to used in most planes when flying in heavy precipitation.
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