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The google translate version of that page seems to indicate that it's less of a P3Dv4 issue and more of those folks migrating toward X-Plane.

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Your title is confusing?  If anything your title should read 'Victims of XP 11'....

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5 minutes ago, garrett_frank said:

The google translate version of that page seems to indicate that it's less of a P3Dv4 issue and more of those folks migrating toward X-Plane.

My point was more that a lot of developers are working on p3d v4 ONLY products , however some ( freeware,small payware) may not be able to make that move. If they're not replaced we may see a market dominated by the few with competition stifled either prices of the products will rise or new creative and innovative companies will be non existent.

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2 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

Your title is confusing?  If anything your title should read 'Victims of XP 11'....

Perhaps a cowboy title from me but your 'Victims of XP11' would be even worst.

 

 

 

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Wow, thats not English. Useless for people who dont speak or read that language- whatever it is. Don't have time to finding translator.

 

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2 minutes ago, ukplane1 said:

Perhaps a cowboy title from me but your 'Victims of XP11' would be even worst.

 

 

 

How so?  Your title eludes to you not reading the article you linked to?  

 

5 minutes ago, ukplane1 said:

My point was more that a lot of developers are working on p3d v4 ONLY products , however some ( freeware,small payware) may not be able to make that move. If they're not replaced we may see a market dominated by the few with competition stifled either prices of the products will rise or new creative and innovative companies will be non existent.

This is hardly the first time the sim community has gone through a platform transition; it's happened at least 12 times in the past and the community continues to survive.  I don't see how this is any different....

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5 minutes ago, warriorpilot said:

What do they even make?

scenery and a couple planes i think.

 

They got some awards for the best freeware airports for FSX/P3D.

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7 minutes ago, joemiller said:

Wow, thats not English. Useless for people who dont speak or read that language- whatever it is. Don't have time to finding translator.

 

In the time you took to right the comment all you had to do was Right click "Translate to English" .

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5 minutes ago, ukplane1 said:

In the time you took to right the comment all you had to do was Right click "Translate to English" .

Another way of saying that. 

 

"Hey if you are using chrome you can right click and select "Translate to english" Or you can copy and paste the text to Google Translate". There is no need for harsh comments. Please keep it nice and fun for all. 

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3 minutes ago, warriorpilot said:

Another way of saying that. 

 

"Hey if you are using chrome you can right click and select "Translate to english" Or you can copy and paste the text to Google Translate". There is no need for harsh comments. Please keep it nice and fun for all. 

Sorry , Thank you.

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Quite frankly, I really applaude the concept of developers grasping the new and leaving the old.

I know it could sound a bit cynical, but it's not the first time FS history, that a platform changed is happening. It's called progress, and existing developers either have to keep up, or fall behind... That's a bit harsh, but that's the reality we're dealing with. 

I'm terribly sorry, people, but I fail to see the point in this thread... 

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V4 is the way forward.  It's the future of this pesky hobby of ours.  The money you spend on fsx is gone.  I'm sure you all had plenty of hours of fun and plenty of hours of oom and ctd heartaches with fsx.

But 64 bit is here and its a game changer.  The sooner people realise this the better.  

Fsx is 11 years old.  Let me say that again slowly so it sinks in.

  1 1  Y E A R S  O L D.

Ps.

On a side note consider yourself lucky that the big names in this business are all incapable of talking to each other.   If they had been bothered to arrange an hour Skype conference call they could of all got to together and price fixed and charged a standard 10 dollars to convert each product. They would be laughing all the way to the bank. 

 

 

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FlightPort have made fantastic freeware sceneries for FSX/P3D for small german airfields.

It is a big loss.

 

But the title is indeed missleading as they are no victims what would imply that P3D v4 is too difficult to develop or has other hurdles. That is not true, but the devs have changed their interest to X-Plane. Just that simple it is.

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39 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

Quite frankly, I really applaude the concept of developers grasping the new and leaving the old.

I know it could sound a bit cynical, but it's not the first time FS history, that a platform changed is happening. It's called progress, and existing developers either have to keep up, or fall behind... That's a bit harsh, but that's the reality we're dealing with. 

I'm terribly sorry, people, but I fail to see the point in this thread... 

And yet you still commented

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I have an MEP/IR and i have P3D V4 but this is my take.

 

To some of those championing P3D V4 like its the second coming i would say stop living in an alternate reality were you think a sim is better because an airport has dynamic lighting but in fairness you did purchased it so you should be free to admire dynamic lighting if you wish but i will say ( hopefully avsim mods don't remove it ) Real pilots like myself who will also agree with will say that the core of the simulator is more important than the looks.

This goes back to the old debate Captain sim 767 or Level D 767 one looks pretty the other has more realistic features in aviation terms - P3D V4 is no more realistic than FSX if you disagree with me i'm with the most respect saying you probably don't fly very often in the real world.

I will end with , this is the state of P3D V4 now promising but no more however, i promise with time P3D V4 will be a FANTASTIC sim but as we saw with how quickly smartphones evolved it's going to be along time before flight sim evolves at such a rate.

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1 minute ago, jjf said:

And yet you still commented

Sooo...

You're giving a pointless answer, to a (in your opinion) pointless post in a pointless thread... 
Jeez - this must be some kind of record, I suppose

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4 minutes ago, ukplane1 said:

P3D V4 is no more realistic than FSX if you disagree with me i'm with the most respect saying you probably don't fly very often in the real world.

Well... the lighting model with Dynamic Lighting IS more realistic than that texture based #####, they got in previous versions... 

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Thanks for the notice. I have most of Flightports stuff.

I am still slowly building my P3DV4 and haven't yet tried their work in the new sim. I gather there are issues. Its a shame if that is so.

However, I'm a dually.  I also have XP11 and love it! Its a great sim that also needs some work in some areas.  There are many aspects of XP11 that I find superior to P3DV3, landscapes seem more real right out of the box.

Anyway thanks again for the update, and I will have the benefit of their move to XP.

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1 hour ago, 1st fltsimguy said:

Thanks for the notice. I have most of Flightports stuff.

I am still slowly building my P3DV4 and haven't yet tried their work in the new sim. I gather there are issues. Its a shame if that is so.

However, I'm a dually.  I also have XP11 and love it! Its a great sim that also needs some work in some areas.  There are many aspects of XP11 that I find superior to P3DV3, landscapes seem more real right out of the box.

Anyway thanks again for the update, and I will have the benefit of their move to XP.

They are shutting down the whole site. There is no mention that they will develop for XP, only that Jörg Dannenberg is currently enjoying XP as an end user. He is not sure if anything will come from that in form of new addons. If their old products will still be available is currently being debated among the former developers. Source: flusinews.de, which has a short interview with Jörg too.

Best regards 

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That is a good heads up that if that is the way he leaves customers I will have to make sure I do not buy his Xplane stuff as I use both forums.  As far as freeware if it is in that it is really up to him

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1 hour ago, ukplane1 said:

This goes back to the old debate Captain sim 767 or Level D 767 one looks pretty the other has more realistic features in aviation terms - P3D V4 is no more realistic than FSX if you disagree with me i'm with the most respect saying you probably don't fly very often in the real world.

You fail to take into account that VAS OOM's don't happen in real life or P3Dv4....FSX on the other hand....

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...but I thought P3D v3/FSX scenery just worked in P3Dv4 as long as you don't use any DLLs or external utils?

It's still wise I think to make scenery that is FSX compatible, just because P3Dv4 and FSW are still mostly FSX inside. ORBX seem to agree with this statement, and there are still people who use and develop for FS9

 

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Oh, thanks for the heads-up; that is definitely a loss for the flight sim community. Although I would not call them victims, unless you would like to call P3Dv4 a threat.

The guys at Flightport have made beautiful freeware scenery of smaller airports (mostly for Germany) through more than one decade. They were always a very generous and engaged group and kindly adapting their scenery and required libraries to FSX, then further through all versions of P3D up to v3.

They are currently looking into making their projects available for downloading, so they may continue to live in FSX and up to P3Dv3 for a long time.

A big Thank You to Jörg and Peter and their fellow freeware developers for their wonderful contributions.

Regards
Frank

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