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CTD upon touchdown

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11 hours ago, kityatyi said:

...aaaand it happened again, just as I touched down, as soon as the landing gears touched the runway, screen froze, sound keeps playing and in 3 seconds simulator shuts down without a single error message. Ar least 25% of my flights in the DC-6 end up with a crash-to-desktop. Something is definitely not right with this bird. :-(

 

10 hours ago, RichieFly said:

I had the crash at touchdown again after many flights without problems.

The new factor, I believe, was clearing out the cache files. I cleared them out since I installed a new nVidia driver. New driver...doubt it is the problem. I flew an entire flight in the 747 without issue. (man, what a flight it was too!)

 

It happened again. Quick turn around the airfield and upon nosewheel touching down, it crashed.

Here's the event viewer info:

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.0.28.21686, time stamp: 0x594a7255
Faulting module name: api.dll, version: 4.0.28.21686, time stamp: 0x594a7300
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x0000000000025090
Faulting process id: 0x3158
Faulting application start time: 0x01d30b0898c8273f
Faulting application path: D:\P3dInstall\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: D:\P3dInstall\Prepar3D v4\api.dll
Report Id: ca62bb66-9752-4a1b-9abd-0cf42f46561f
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

Some info about add ons:

ASP4, ASCA, Orbix Vector, Orbix Global. Otherwise, that's it.

Very strange. Could it be the new nVidia driver?

My hardware is in my signature.

There's definitely an incompatibility somewhere in your systems that the DC-6 isn't playing well with. Not sure if it's right to blame the AC as yet until we can pinpoint for sure that it is the DC-6.

Cheers,
Chris Brand
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I flew other complex aircraft during the last couple of days just to see if there would be a CTD as well, but no. I managed three more flights with the DC-6 without CTD, just aborting the AFE when the flow was done. I will try tonight the "full routine" with AFE on all the time. Will report back.

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Regards

Gunter Schneider

I too had some success in the DC-6. Did a few landings without incident.

Once again, this seems to occur, for me, after clearing the cache. At no other time does P3D crash.

Something unique about my system? Almost certainly. At least something in the particular set of add ons and configuration.

Tomorrow I'll try landing during rainy weather. I have a theory...

Ever notice there's no wheel splash-up effects? I'm not sure if this is a per aircraft effect...

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

P3D V4 on Windows 7.

Another CTD while on taxi to takeoff - no error message in log file. I have only had 2 complete flights without a CTD.

Guess I will have to ground the DC6 for a while, very disappointed.

Johan Pienaar

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5 hours ago, PMDG777 said:

 

There's definitely an incompatibility somewhere in your systems that the DC-6 isn't playing well with. Not sure if it's right to blame the AC as yet until we can pinpoint for sure that it is the DC-6.

Since the DC-6 is the one and only add-on that misbehaves I am not too sure about that the issue is on my side. Time will tell though, if it's something with the Cloudmaster, I have no doubts about PMDG finding and solving the issue soon. Until then, it is grounded.

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

4 minutes ago, kityatyi said:

Since the DC-6 is the one and only add-on that misbehaves I am not too sure about that the issue is on my side. Time will tell though, if it's something with the Cloudmaster, I have no doubts about PMDG finding and solving the issue soon. Until then, it is grounded.

While there are a number of people who get the crash, there are as many (and most likely far more) who do not get the crash. That means there's something specific to your sims that is causing the crash.

Cheers,
Chris Brand
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3 minutes ago, PMDG777 said:

While there are a number of people who get the crash, there are as many (and most likely far more) who do not get the crash. That means there's something specific to your sims that is causing the crash.

Ok.

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

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Random question:

What kind of speakers are you all using? Any of you using a USB headset or speakers?

Kyle Rodgers

Creative Sound Blaster Z SB board with Creative A250 3-Piece Speaker System

No USB headphones on these flights

 

Jack Sawyer

14 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

Random question:

What kind of speakers are you all using? Any of you using a USB headset or speakers?

Have been using a USB headset/mic indeed. 

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

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11 minutes ago, kityatyi said:

Have been using a USB headset/mic indeed. 

Try without it, just to see if it makes a difference.

Kyle Rodgers

No probs I will and report back.

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

Tested. First flight, crash to desktop after commencing taxi. No error message, only a sudden freeze of movement and less than five seconds later P3D simple crashes without any messages.

For this flight I disconnected my USB headset, rebooted the computer, connected my good old audio speaker.

With the help of the the AFE, I have set up the systems. Started engines, number three and four first followed by two and one. After starting the second engine, I initiated the GSX pushback scenario. Pushed back from the new Drzewiecki KLGA stand H10 using GSX, It was a straight pushback - which I stopped using the GSX p/b menu - when the nosegear passed the yellow taxiway sign. Then ran the AFE after start flow. Once everything was up and running I turned left onto the taxiway and commenced taxi. Less than 100 m later the screen froze, and the CTD occured.

So to summarize:

- no USB headset/speaker involved
- platform is P3DV4
- AFE was in use
- GSX in use

I am not too sure if SODE was in use or not. I personally did not call the SODE menu but certain elements might have been controlled by SODE. Just saying, in case it matters.

Since there was again no error message or anything left behind to see in Event Viewer, there isn't much more I could provide here to help trace this mysterious CTD. 

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

1 minute ago, kityatyi said:

Tested. First flight, crash to desktop after commencing taxi. No error message, only a sudden freeze of movement and less than five seconds later P3D simple crashes without any messages.

For this flight I disconnected my USB headset, rebooted the computer, connected my good old audio speaker.

With the help of the the AFE, I have set up the systems. Started engines, number three and four first followed by two and one. After starting the second engine, I initiated the GSX pushback scenario. Pushed back from the new Drzewiecki KLGA stand H10 using GSX, It was a straight pushback - which I stopped using the GSX p/b menu - when the nosegear passed the yellow taxiway sign. Then ran the AFE after start flow. Once everything was up and running I turned left onto the taxiway and commenced taxi. Less than 100 m later the screen froze, and the CTD occured.

So to summarize:

- no USB headset/speaker involved
- platform is P3DV4
- AFE was in use
- GSX in use

I am not too sure if SODE was in use or not. I personally did not call the SODE menu but certain elements might have been controlled by SODE. Just saying, in case it matters.

Since there was again no error message or anything left behind to see in Event Viewer, there isn't much more I could provide here to help trace this mysterious CTD. 

Same deal if you run it without GSX (and USB speakers)?

Cheers,
Chris Brand
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13 minutes ago, PMDG777 said:

Same deal if you run it without GSX (and USB speakers)?

Interesting question Chris.

If anyone of you does have the Drzewiecki NYA v2 and in particular the package that has KLGA as well as GSX, could you please try the exact same scenario?

P3DV4
Drzewiecki KLGA
GSX
PMDG DC6 with full use of the AFE (let him do everything)

Park at stand H10. Push back using GSX, it will be a straight pushback (the only option). Stop pushback once the nose gear passes the taxiway line. Start engines. When up and running, turn LEFT onto the taxiway which the nosegear just passed during push back. See if you crash to desktop within 100-150 meters.


The reason why I find your question interesting is because the above scenario DOES result a 100% CTD rate to me. However, when I try it without even touching GSX, no CTD happens. So GSX might have something to do with this particular CTD - it seems at least more related than the USB headset.

However, I also had several crashes when I did not use GSX at all, like last night, when I ended up with a CTD upon the moment I touched down - even though I did not even open GSX during the entire session. In fact since I figured out that the above scenario goes well only if I do not use GSX, I completely avoid using GSX with the DC-6.

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kityatyi

I7 6700K 4.6 GHz, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5

16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 2666 MHz RAM, 750GB SSD, 1TB HDD

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