Chicken Patty

Need Help Installing RC 4 To Work with P3D V4

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Hello all,

 

Long time user of RC4, and I wouldn't want it any other way.  Problem is that when building the new PC, along with the new windows install, I no longer have FSX installed, just P3D V4.  Now while installing RC4 how do I get it to find the "FSX Installation" as it asks me for?  I saw someone suggest another member to create a copy of P3D.exe, and rename it FSX.exe.  I tried that, but it didn't help.  If anybody can just get me going in the right direction to get RC4 working in V4 that would be great.  Thanks in advance.

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I think what I did, was create two .reg files, adds and removes a fake registration which points FSX to Prepar3D V4 directory. 

You can achieve something similar with Estonia Migration Tool - but I've had some weird issues with it lately. Mainly registrations which doesn't get removed appropriately. 

Remember - in order to get RC4 to work, install the legacy SimConnects and FSUIPC for Prepar3D V4 (doesn't have to be registered).

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5 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

I think what I did, was create two .reg files, adds and removes a fake registration which points FSX to Prepar3D V4 directory. 

You can achieve something similar with Estonia Migration Tool - but I've had some weird issues with it lately. Mainly registrations which doesn't get removed appropriately. 

Remember - in order to get RC4 to work, install the legacy SimConnects and FSUIPC for Prepar3D V4 (doesn't have to be registered).

I'm honestly not sure what you mean by creating to .reg files.  If you don't mind elaborating a little further on that.  At this point I'm just trying to get it installed at least.  Then I'll worry about getting the legacy software needed for it to work properly.

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6 minutes ago, Chicken Patty said:

I'm honestly not sure what you mean by creating to .reg files.  If you don't mind elaborating a little further on that.  At this point I'm just trying to get it installed at least.  Then I'll worry about getting the legacy software needed for it to work properly.

For instance - this registration is for Prepar3D V3... 

One .reg to add the registration:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="Professional"
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="Professional"
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

And one to remove it again:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="-"
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="-"


[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="-"
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="-"

This would just be saved as an XXXX.reg file and executed. Please remember to correct this, so it has FSX registration details, and NOT Prepar3D :smile:

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3 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

For instance - this registration is for Prepar3D V3... 

One .reg to add the registration:


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="Professional"
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="Professional"
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="X:\\Prepar3D v4\\"

And one to remove it again:


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="-"
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="-"


[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3]
"License"="-"
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Content]
"SetupPath"="-"

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Scenery]
"SetupPath"="-"

This would just be saved as an XXXX.reg file and executed. Please remember to correct this, so it has FSX registration details, and NOT Prepar3D :smile:

Thanks for clarifying that.  I'll do some more research on it tomorrow to see if I can figure out to get it installed.  I'll post back.  Thanks for the tips so far. 

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Gents,

I'm pretty sure RC4 does not read the registry. There's not a single reference to it in the manual. I've looked at my own install and I have a copy of FSX.EXE in my P3D (v3.4) folder. I think RC just looks for the presence of that file rather than executing it so you should be able to create a text file and rename it to fsx.exe to satisfy RC4.

David, you said you tried doing this but it didn't help. But what was the message displayed?

I have RC4 running on a separate PC via WideFS and it's fine. I do keep having to point it to my P3D folder. It seems to forget the path for some odd reason. The biggest problem is getting the csv files updated in the data sub-folder but Lorby's Addon Organiser program together with MakeRunways is very good for that.

You will also need to check you have the latest FSUIPC5 and MakeRunways.

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Rays the expert on this program. I reinstalled it with P3DV4 recently and certainly didn't go through all of the detail and hassle above. It's just simple. Follow Rays guidance. 

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Rays the expert on this program. I reinstalled it with P3DV4 recently and certainly didn't go through all of the detail and hassle above. It's just simple. Follow Rays guidance. 

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During the install it just keeps asking for the FSX registry file...  I have tried pointing it to the P3D folder where I created the "FSX.exe" but that doesn't help.  It'll finish installing but when I double click the RC4 icon it doesn't open and instead i get some weird install to Navigraph charts 5 open up.... I haven't seen it before.  When I get back home today I'll run through the process again and post screenshots so you'll can see.

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1 hour ago, Chicken Patty said:

During the install it just keeps asking for the FSX registry file...  I have tried pointing it to the P3D folder where I created the "FSX.exe" but that doesn't help.  It'll finish installing but when I double click the RC4 icon it doesn't open and instead i get some weird install to Navigraph charts 5 open up.... I haven't seen it before.  When I get back home today I'll run through the process again and post screenshots so you'll can see.

The difference between us is I still had FSX installed when I installed P3D and then RC4. The simplest solution might just be to install FSX temporarily so you can copy the fsx.exe into P3D and RC4 will be happy as you will have an FSX option when installing.

There has to be manual workarounds for P3D as RC4 had no knowledge of that when it was released 10 years ago. Providing you have the latest version that works with FSX and it sounds as though you do then my suggestion above should get you sorted.

Once you've been running RC4 and P34D for a while then uninstall FSX.

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Correct me if I don't remember correctly, but installing RC4 for P3D V4 is extremely easy:
 

  1. Take a small .exe file from somewhere.
  2. Put it in the main P3D V4 directory
  3. rename it fsx.exe

That's should do the trick.Try it, if it doesn't work, then I have forgotten how I did it, but that's what I remember (and I don't have FSX installed).

 

 

 

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I never did that.

I just told RC where P3Dv4 was installed and it found it straight away.

 

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37 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

I never did that.

I just told RC where P3Dv4 was installed and it found it straight away.

 

Ian,

What's "it"? Do you have a FSX.exe in your p3D v4 folder?

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30 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

I never did that.

I just told RC where P3Dv4 was installed and it found it straight away.

 

Me too. I had just deleted FSX from my system and reinstalled P3D4 on my old FSX SSD. I did get the MSCOMCTL.OCX error though, but just downloaded and registered it and all was fine.

 

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"It" is Radar Contact.

I never put anything in my P3Dv4 folder. FSX sits on its own drive completely apart.

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11 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

"It" is Radar Contact.

I never put anything in my P3Dv4 folder. FSX sits on its own drive completely apart.

Ian,

There were two 'it's in your post. I'm asking about the second one. What did RC find in the P3D folder that satisfied it?

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Sorry Ray.

It is past bed time already!

What I meant was that I just installed RC4 on the same drive where P3Dv4 was and RC4 was happy once I had filled the location of the files it requests.(Flt/WX)

As far as I remember, there was nothing else needed.

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Concur with Mr. Harrison,   RC4 will identify P3Dv4 through the FSUIPC5 module. 

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1 hour ago, IanHarrison said:

Sorry Ray.

It is past bed time already!

What I meant was that I just installed RC4 on the same drive where P3Dv4 was and RC4 was happy once I had filled the location of the files it requests.(Flt/WX)

As far as I remember, there was nothing else needed.

Thanks Ian. I must confess that knowing what RC4 looks for is a mystery. Benzhanger, it doesn't know what P3D is. RC4 was released long before that product was released.

Anyway, hopefully all those who are installing RC4 will get it done after the help of others.

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25 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Benzhanger, it doesn't know what P3D is. RC4 was released long before that product was released.

Ray, I absolutely agree but RC4 works flawlessly without configuration.  At first it did not recognized P3D4 but once i installed the FSUIPC5 module (free version) everything was up and running. Same thing apply for PFE.

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I just got home, so in a few I'll run through the install process and take some screen shots so you guys can see what's going on.  Thanks.

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Okay so I run the RC4 installer in administrative mode.

 

capture042.jpg

 

I choose the location to be the same drive as my P3D install, out of program files to avoid any issues:

capture043.jpg

 

This is where the issues beging.  I point it to my P3D install that has the "fake" FSX.EXE file, and it comes up again.  I point to it a second time, and then it continues with the install.

capture044.jpg

 

Then this pops up after it installs for a bit.  I choose the FSX.EXE inside my P3D install again.

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then this

 

capture046.jpg

finishes the install

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Then we I open RC4, this is what comes out...  Any ideas?

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OK that looks a bit of a mess.

Uninstall P3Dv4 and RC4 and FSUIPC.

Get rid of "fake" FSX

Reboot to sort out registry (if you have a Registry cleaner run it first).

Do what I did.

Disable UAC in Windows.

Install P3Dv4 to the DEFAULT directory C:\Program Files as administrator

Install RC4 as admin to C:\Program Files (X86)

Install FSUIPC.

Run P3Dv4 to let it configure itself

Run RC4 and point it to the Flight plan directories

Run Rebuild scenery DB in RC

Reboot once more for luck

If you have the same luck as I did, all will work.

(Just note that nearly all RC4 key presses are assigned to other commands in P3Dv4, you will need to re-map them in RC4.

Good luck.

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