Zimmerbz

Ultimate Traffic 2 and Live

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I have seen a bunch of contradicting information and was hoping someone in here can help clear up a few questions regarding Ultimate Traffic 2 and Ultimate Traffic Live.  There are a bunch of threads on this so I was hoping to condense it into one to answer a few things I was uncertain of.  Thanks!

1) What is the difference between UT2 and UTL?

2) Are either compatible with V4?

       - If so, is it an easy install with an installer, or is it a manual process that requires knowledge of coding, files, etc.?

3) Can you run either while online and still see the AI traffic while on Vatsim or Pilotedge?

       - is there anything out there that allows you to see AI online if UT cannot?

4) Do either of these require any other software to populate airports and see liveries, particularly at high end payware airports (Flightbeam, Imaginesim, etc.)?

Thanks! 

 

 

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Thanks. Seems more difficult than I'd be comfortable with.   Any idea about the other questions? 

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Ultimate traffic live is a native P3dv4 program and has a self installer.

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UT live still in beta version; some are lucky and don't have problem others have problem, I often had CTD so now I removed it and wait for final version.

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What are the differences between V2 and Live?

How about using this while online on Vatsim, can you see the AI in that environment?  That is key for me. 

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Ultimate Traffic 2 is the older program from Flight 1 which is being replaced by Ultimate Traffic Live.  Here is a statement from their sales page for UT 2 which you  should be made aware of :

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT! 

Before you purchase Ultimate Traffic 2 please consider the following...There is a "soft" release of the next version of Ultimate Traffic... It is called Ultimate Traffic Live. You can buy this version now. It is not in official full release yet, but we want you to be aware of this before purchasing UT2. Please visit this post regarding Ultimate Traffic Live for more information.

I currently own and have installed UT Live into P3D v4 with an easy  installation because UT Live is made to be compatible with P3D v4.  I like the program and am not having any issues at this time (originally yes) but not now.

I fly 100 % online (VATSIM) and have no issues with UT Live injecting its own AI traffic into the sim.  I prefer to do this only when VATSIM traffic is very light (depending on time of day).  During heavy VATSIM traffic such as events or in areas like New York, etc, I prefer to kill all traffic from the sim so I can only see and have to deal with other VATSIM traffic.

 

I recommend buying UT Live and suggest you follow all the developer's instructions for installation.  One negative for now is a lack of manual(s) for tweaking the settings and other functions.  Personally I am happy with just having the program running its default settings and the aircraft models I see are looking pretty darned good. :biggrin:

 

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14 minutes ago, vcarlo said:

Ultimate Traffic 2 is the older program from Flight 1 which is being replaced by Ultimate Traffic Live.  Here is a statement from their sales page for UT 2 which you  should be made aware of :

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT! 

Before you purchase Ultimate Traffic 2 please consider the following...There is a "soft" release of the next version of Ultimate Traffic... It is called Ultimate Traffic Live. You can buy this version now. It is not in official full release yet, but we want you to be aware of this before purchasing UT2. Please visit this post regarding Ultimate Traffic Live for more information.

I currently own and have installed UT Live into P3D v4 with an easy  installation because UT Live is made to be compatible with P3D v4.  I like the program and am not having any issues at this time (originally yes) but not now.

I fly 100 % online (VATSIM) and have no issues with UT Live injecting its own AI traffic into the sim.  I prefer to do this only when VATSIM traffic is very light (depending on time of day).  During heavy VATSIM traffic such as events or in areas like New York, etc, I prefer to kill all traffic from the sim so I can only see and have to deal with other VATSIM traffic.

 

I recommend buying UT Live and suggest you follow all the developer's instructions for installation.  One negative for now is a lack of manual(s) for tweaking the settings and other functions.  Personally I am happy with just having the program running its default settings and the aircraft models I see are looking pretty darned good. :biggrin:

 

Ok.. just so I am fully understanding your statement, when on Vatsim you are using UT live.  Does this drop in AI traffic at airports or is it just using their default textures for when you are flying near others flying on Vatsim.  Ultimately, I am looking to have an online experience with ATC, but also populated airports.  Flying into SFO and I am the only plane there kind of ruins it for me.  I'd like to fly online but have traffic visible on the ground and if I notice something on take off or landing, I can clear the traffic.  Is that what you mean? 

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1 minute ago, Zimmerbz said:

Ok.. just so I am fully understanding your statement, when on Vatsim you are using UT live.  Does this drop in AI traffic at airports or is it just using their default textures for when you are flying near others flying on Vatsim.  Ultimately, I am looking to have an online experience with ATC, but also populated airports.  Flying into SFO and I am the only plane there kind of ruins it for me.  I'd like to fly online but have traffic visible on the ground and if I notice something on take off or landing, I can clear the traffic.  Is that what you mean? 

Yes, that is accurate.  Whether I am online or not,  the AI traffic is there (unless I choose to turn it off).  You can also use "quick keys" for either increasing, decreasing, or shutting off the AI traffic. :biggrin:  Also the vPilot client is really good at using the UTL models, so as long as the VATSIM user  logs in with a valid call sign and a/c model, you have no problem identifying the correct traffic.  ( I never use those stupid labels over top of the AI aircraft ) :blush:

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Unless you like troubleshooting beta software, I would wait until UTL is issued in final release form. I have been with UTL since version .18 (now is .23) and never had it perform consistently. Hard to believe that it was ready for "early release". I have followed all suggestions but am now a member of the "I have uninstalled UTL until final version club". Went back to My Traffic 6.0a and it is nice to consistently have traffic. The only consistent behavior is the crashing of UTL_Client. Also, the lack of apparent progress and reports from the developer is concerning.

Regards,

P.

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29 minutes ago, vcarlo said:

Yes, that is accurate.  Whether I am online or not,  the AI traffic is there (unless I choose to turn it off).  You can also use "quick keys" for either increasing, decreasing, or shutting off the AI traffic. :biggrin:  Also the vPilot client is really good at using the UTL models, so as long as the VATSIM user  logs in with a valid call sign and a/c model, you have no problem identifying the correct traffic.  ( I never use those stupid labels over top of the AI aircraft ) :blush:

Sweet.  Music to my ears.  Thanks!

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26 minutes ago, pgde said:

Unless you like troubleshooting beta software, I would wait until UTL is issued in final release form. I have been with UTL since version .18 (now is .23) and never had it perform consistently. Hard to believe that it was ready for "early release". I have followed all suggestions but am now a member of the "I have uninstalled UTL until final version club". Went back to My Traffic 6.0a and it is nice to consistently have traffic. The only consistent behavior is the crashing of UTL_Client. Also, the lack of apparent progress and reports from the developer is concerning.

Regards,

P.

What types of issues are folks experiencing?  Many  times, particularly with aircraft, the bugs that are out I don't even notice unless they are severe. 

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UT2 works fine in p3d v4.  you just need the updated models.

I use it on vatsim with my updates with zero issues.

 

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3 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

What types of issues are folks experiencing?  Many  times, particularly with aircraft, the bugs that are out I don't even notice unless they are severe. 

I'm really not having any issues with the latest version. It works fine for my needs and I am able to easily replace aircraft and liveries in their configurator if needed as some of the UTLive repaints are outdated. My one gripe is that if you access the P3D menu the traffic will disappear and regenerate.  Not a huge deal though as I tend to not go into the menus much once I am loaded up.

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2 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

What types of issues are folks experiencing?  Many  times, particularly with aircraft, the bugs that are out I don't even notice unless they are severe. 

The executable file, utl_client, either crashes in the first 5 minutes or never loads. Numerous people have this problem which is unrelated to any aircraft or liveries. The crashes seem to be getting worse with each succeeding release. I am not sure they (Flight1 staff) have figured out what the problem is since the last release was on July 21. It is too bad you can't see all the posts in the Licensed User Forum for UTL complaining about this with no feedback that the problem has been identified. 

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I installed UTlive two weeks ago and still have not seen a single plane.I have uninstalled COMPLETELY two times and after reinstalling it is still not working. It loads into P3D v4. shows in the add-ons in the upper menu. Clicking on Increase or decrease traffic gets a quick flash of a few planes and then nothing.

Troubleshooting a dozen possibilities and no joy. I uninstalled it again today and going back to My Traffic 6a until Flight gets it right.

 

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UTlive client in p3dV4 crashed for me constantly as well.  I uninstalled it and am now using MyTraffic 6.0 without a problem. 

Lon Duncombe

 

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I use with with P3DV4 without any issues whatsoever.

One thing... if you use it for VATSIM you should run the installer, reboot, and then edit your addon.xml file with Notepad++ and change Active from True to False.  The reason is that you don't need the UTL software running to see AI Traffic, and if you keep it loading/running with P3DV4 it will eat up processing cycles - and it's just not required.

Best wishes.

 

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2 hours ago, OldFlyboy said:

I installed UTlive two weeks ago and still have not seen a single plane.I have uninstalled COMPLETELY two times and after reinstalling it is still not working. It loads into P3D v4. shows in the add-ons in the upper menu. Clicking on Increase or decrease traffic gets a quick flash of a few planes and then nothing.

Troubleshooting a dozen possibilities and no joy. I uninstalled it again today and going back to My Traffic 6a until Flight gets it right.

 

Me too. Nice to have traffic again :)

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3 hours ago, pgde said:

The executable file, utl_client, either crashes in the first 5 minutes or never loads. Numerous people have this problem which is unrelated to any aircraft or liveries. The crashes seem to be getting worse with each succeeding release. I am not sure they (Flight1 staff) have figured out what the problem is since the last release was on July 21. It is too bad you can't see all the posts in the Licensed User Forum for UTL complaining about this with no feedback that the problem has been identified. 

Have you tried checking task manager to see if the client (under processes) is running before you start a flight? I had the client crash issue, but making sure the process isn't running solved the issue. It is a workaround. I'm sure they'll find a permanent fix in the next release or final version. Aside from this issue, I have not had any problems with UTL.

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9 hours ago, duckbilled said:

Have you tried checking task manager to see if the client (under processes) is running before you start a flight?

Yes, several times. Everythng looks to be loaded properly. See lots of planes when flight loads but they disappeared in a few seconds.  It will stay uninstalled until an update.

I have used every version of Ultimate traffic and never had a single problem until "LIVE"

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UT Live works great for me, except that if I reload P3DV4 in the same Windows session it crashes on sim boot up. Something that I'm sure will be sorted out in time. It's in beta at the end of the day. Other than that I think it behaves much more realistically than UT2, which I also loved.

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15 hours ago, pgde said:

The executable file, utl_client, either crashes in the first 5 minutes or never loads. Numerous people have this problem which is unrelated to any aircraft or liveries. The crashes seem to be getting worse with each succeeding release. I am not sure they (Flight1 staff) have figured out what the problem is since the last release was on July 21. It is too bad you can't see all the posts in the Licensed User Forum for UTL complaining about this with no feedback that the problem has been identified. 

It's weird, because others (like me) are having no problems with UTL. 

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1 minute ago, vp49p3 said:

It's weird, because others (like me) are having no problems with UTL. 

It's also a little difficult to overcome issues because there's no manual. You have to experiment a bit to get it to work.  For example, at first I thought you had to start UTL separately from P3d. That caused the utl client crash many times.  Then I realized when you start P3d UTL starts automatically without any further user action.  Now I don't have any issues-but I had to figure that out myself because there's no manual.

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I am wondering if some if the people having issues with traffic disappearing have the FPS limiter set within UTLive.  It's probably best to set that to zero and just set a max number of aircraft visible. I use a max of 100 aircraft.  If you use the FPS function (I think it is in fact on by default) then yes, traffic will disappear if it is set too high.

As far as the crashes on startup, it's caused by the UTclient running in task manager.  Sometimes it does not shut down correctly and you have to 'end task'.  That's the only time it does that for me but it's a rare occurrence.  

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