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Has anyone considered that DTG may be buying the licenses to DLC, for sale in Steam directly from the dev?

It's genius when you think of it. 

Flight 1, Orbx, and Aerosoft use a similar model now. And DTG already bought Orbx, A2A, and others licenses for the core sim. A dev makes a good airport, DTG buy it for $20k, they sell 5000 copies at $9.99 and even after the Steam cut they made profit. Rinse and repeat.

Also, look at the price of the Arrow III on Steam and on the JF store. It's CHEAPER on Steam! Suspicious. 

Of course this would likely not be applicable to all addons until 3pds are proven in the market. That way we don't have EZDOK repeats where the dev runs off after turning a profit. 

Last, this would also be nice for some smaller devs as they get paid upfront and can fund their next project without having to worry for piracy, download/install support, marketing etc. 

Conspiracy indeed. But a new way of driving quality to your masses. Thoughts? 

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1 hour ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

Also, look at the price of the Arrow III on Steam and on the JF store. It's CHEAPER on Steam! Suspicious.

I agree it may look suspicious, but I think this is simply a large retailer with a global market offering a discount just like the Supermarkets do. The manufacturer or producer takes the cut in order to sell more product than they ever could elsewhere.

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2 hours ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

Also, look at the price of the Arrow III on Steam and on the JF store. It's CHEAPER on Steam! Suspicious.

Except that it isn't cheaper, it is exactly the same price on Steam as it is on the Just Flight Website, i.e. 27.99 Sterling.

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Yeah I was about to post that, what are we missing that makes you think it is cheaper?

chris

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19 minutes ago, tutmeister said:

Yeah I was about to post that, what are we missing that makes you think it is cheaper?

chris

Well, at least that does make it like all other conspiracy theories lol, I.e. based on a fallacy. Now, about those chemtrails....

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Dovetail and Steam assume all support for the products they sell, no matter who develops them. This allows a developer to greatly discount an individual license to them for resell.

At some other forums that have active developers, this has been discussed.

There are good and bad aspects to this business model but for the developer to avoid support costs is a huge economic incentive to use Steam as a distribution method.

 

 

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The price on their site lists at $42 and on Steam it lists as $35.

I bought the plane and like it.

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3 hours ago, Chock said:

Except that it isn't cheaper, it is exactly the same price on Steam as it is on the Just Flight Website, i.e. 27.99 Sterling.

I trade in USD and it is significantly higher on the JF store. Maybe you are looking at the pre conversion prices? 

1 hour ago, Torg Smith said:

The price on their site lists at $42 and on Steam it lists as $35.

I bought the plane and like it.

Correct, it is $41.99 USD, just as their other Piper products are, on the JF store and $34.99 on Steam. 

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It could be a VAT thing. Their site might have a VAT tax applied to everybody and Steam can handle the removal of VAT for non-European countries.

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Yes it will be to do with vat. $35 +20% = $42.

VAT has to be included in a sale price in the eu. Do you not pay tax at checkout on steam in the US?

Chris

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3 hours ago, tutmeister said:

Yes it will be to do with vat. $35 +20% = $42.

VAT has to be included in a sale price in the eu. Do you not pay tax at checkout on steam in the US?

Chris

No, it costs 35 dollars.

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Wait. Here in the Philippines,on steam, it is Php 869.95 equivalent to around 17 dollars. What is happening?

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I am confused, is that not a US dollar sign? Or are you saying it is, but you have to pay a tax in that country, even if you shop from the US on their site? So if I bought it living in the US it would $41,99 for me to buy, versus Steam $34,99?

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1 hour ago, snapshot21 said:

Wait. Here in the Philippines,on steam, it is Php 869.95 equivalent to around 17 dollars. What is happening?

Steam has regionalized prices. These are the prices around the world, as you can see in Russia you will pay 10 dollars:

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This is why I love steam, they try not to punish people living in countries with weak currencies.

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14 hours ago, ca_metal said:

This is why I love steam, they try not to punish people living in countries with weak currencies.

Some of the countries in that list with the big discounts could hardly be described as being weak! As usual with anything computer-related (and particularly with Steam, it would appear), the UK and Europe suffer the most - very puzzling.

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59 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

Some of the countries in that list with the big discounts could hardly be described as being weak! As usual with anything computer-related (and particularly with Steam, it would appear), the UK and Europe suffer the most - very puzzling.

These are not discounted prices, they are actual prices, when steam is on sales those prices are even lower. Steam let developers use regionalized prices if they want. Not sure but I think those prices are based on Purchase Power Parity. Russia has a really undervalued currency, this is why they have the cheapest price.

Euro and British Pound are really valued currencies when compared for example with Russian Ruble. 

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Nothing particularly suspicious about the pricing of our Arrow III. DTG use the Steam currency conversion system and we use our own, hence the differing non-GBP prices (GBP is the 'standard' price as we are UK company).

DTG have in no way licensed our software, they simply sell it via their Steam store.

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Martyn - Just Flight

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On 11 September 2017 at 6:39 PM, Martyn JF said:

DTG use the Steam currency conversion system and we use our own, hence the differing non-GBP prices (GBP is the 'standard' price as we are UK company).

I can accept that there may be some variation in price because of currency differences/fluctuations but it's puzzling to understand why some countries pay less than half the price that the UK pays for the same, downloaded product (and that the UK and EU should end up paying more than the US does). Surely that can't be down to just a currency conversion?

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4 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

I can accept that there may be some variation in price because of currency differences/fluctuations but it's puzzling to understand why some countries pay less than half the price that the UK pays for the same, downloaded product (and that the UK and EU should end up paying more than the US does). 

Tell that to MS, they sell their products at a flat rate conversion, for example if one of their licenses cost in USA 30 usd, they will charge for the same product 30 GPB here in the UK.

They think we are RICH!!, maybe after brexit we will be poor and the situation might change 😂

Simbol 

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6 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

I can accept that there may be some variation in price because of currency differences/fluctuations but it's puzzling to understand why some countries pay less than half the price that the UK pays for the same, downloaded product (and that the UK and EU should end up paying more than the US does). Surely that can't be anything to do with currency conversions?

It's partly due to currency conversions, but mostly due to the variation in tax rates around the world.

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6 minutes ago, A32xx said:

It's partly due to currency conversions, but mostly due to the variation in tax rates around the world.

If that was the case there should be a maximum of 20% difference as that's the extra sales tax (VAT) we pay in the UK over the base price.

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