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Hyperthreading V4.1

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I run my delidded 7700k HT on AM 245 @5.2ghz can do 5.3 with liitle more vcore max 70C 1.36v

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3 minutes ago, brucets said:

HT ON or Off and what AM??

Fsx, who knows, this is the P3d forum. 😳

For p3d, ht on. Affinity mask remains controversial, hence the ongoing discussion. I'm personally not running one at the momemt, but I'm willing to be convinced by data.

Oz

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20 minutes ago, SteveW said:

 

Affinity Masks are to avoid heat in the basic sense and are a requirement. Even if you do not assign an AM your four core will be AM=15, with  HT enabled your AM=255. With your 6 core your no AM = 63, and so on. There's no such thing a no AM. All an AM does is present a number of LPs to a process like a four core CPU presents four. 

I'm simply talking about gravity - the apple tends to fall to the ground. In Flight sims, PCs are not always the same and some people find their apples fall upwards.

The logical conclusion is that with HT=Off there need not be an AM to see threaded-out parts moved onto another actual core.

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What affinitymask would suit my 4790K then with HT on, 84?

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1 minute ago, simbol said:

OC if posible to minimun 4.6GHZ, user proper cooling (Water is the best but not necesary) and leave HT ON.

The last step is to "Enjoy your flights"

Best Regards,

Simbol

Exactly this, or 4.8 and enjoy your flights! 

Kind regards,

3 minutes ago, simbol said:

OC if posible to minimun 4.6GHZ, user proper cooling (Water is the best but not necesary) and leave HT ON.

The last step is to "Enjoy your flights"

Best Regards,

Simbol

So is that your answer to Bruce's question? Leave HT On and default AM ant that will give him the optimum performance?

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Thanks, but No overclock - not going to happen. I'll just leave HT on.

Bruce

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1 minute ago, odourboy said:

So is that your answer to Bruce's question? Leave HT On and default AM ant that will give him the optimum performance?

It is a suggestion, I find myself that HT enabled and OC my CPU gives me a better performance.

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1 minute ago, brucets said:

Thanks, but No overclock - not going to happen. I'll just leave HT on.

Bruce

Why no overclock Bruce?

As soon as I add AF, no matter which value, I get blurries....

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9 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

Fsx, who knows, this is the P3d forum. 😳

For p3d, ht on. Affinity mask remains controversial, hence the ongoing discussion. I'm personally not running one at the momemt, but I'm willing to be convinced by data.

It is a fact that P3D has work moved out of the main thread so that main thread has better performance on one core. The main thread needs full bore access to its core. So why would we allow a threaded out part to run on that same core after they did all the work. Instead we apply "01" or "10" in the Mask (HT=On).

Controversial - why some guys don't get it.

 

Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com

Stephen - I just don't have the confidence. Have read numerous articles over the years, but just not willing to try it. Take a look at this thread I started yesterday ---

Have to go to the dentist now, will check back later!! Thanks all!

Bruce

3 minutes ago, simbol said:

It is a suggestion, I find myself that HT enabled and OC my CPU gives me a better performance.

Simbol

Okay. I don't disagree, though I've never quantitatively measured that this was 'optimal' with my configuration.

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7 minutes ago, SteveW said:

Good post. With P3D the threaded out parts reduce the overhead in the main thread located on the first LP presented. And so disallowing one HT LP of the first core ensures the threaded-out parts do not occupy the core with the main thread allowing for the performance improvements.

 

Binary 111111=Dec63=Hex3F. You've clearly not been doing your homework.

Yes, I haven't been doing my homework, because I've been wasting my time posting about p3d on avsim. (I am procrastinating, it's almost midnight and I really should get some work done...)

I was merely referring to you stating what "no affinity mask" would do, and then on the same line stating: "There's no such thing a no AM."

basically, the equivalent of: "x+x=4. By the,way, x does not exist."

(yes, I know what you meant) 🙂

 

 

Oz

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Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777.

"There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."

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5 minutes ago, SteveW said:

It is a fact that P3D has work moved out of the main thread so that main thread has better performance on one core. The main thread needs full bore access to its core. So why would we allow a threaded out part to run on that same core after they did all the work. Instead we apply "01" or "10" in the Mask (HT=On).

Controversial - why some guys don't get it.

 

Because you are talking in braille language, non blind people don't know braille code :biggrin:

Edited: A mistake on last sentence

S.

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3 minutes ago, SteveW said:

Controversial - why some guys don't get it.

Controversial - why some guys post about this year after year, based on theory, without ever providing a single piece of data.

Oz

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Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. 

Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777.

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