November 10, 20178 yr Author On 08/11/2017 at 10:24 AM, Jim Young said: If you monitor your VAS during a flight using the FSUIPC utility as described in the AVSIM CTD Guide, you can see your VAS fluctuating constantly. On approach it will go down to maybe 200MB's then shoot back up to over 1GB, then suddenly back down to 400MB's. If you have high settings and using commercial eye-candy scenery, and lots of Autogen, you will be lucky to touchdown and may not even be able to taxi if you do land. It all depends on the scenario, your views, the weather, the number of AI in the area, and then the settings. There is no solution. FSX is an old program that is not optimized to work well with current OS's but still does a pretty good job most of the time. The eye-candy at airports and some photoscenery and Autogen are not VAS friendly. They tend to use the space fairly fast. So from what I understand you are saying even though my VAS indication is clearly showing that it is a full GB away from being at the 4GB limit, that during the approach and taxi in the VAS is spiking which won't be measured by process explorer? And that spike is causing the OOM? Signed Jon.
November 10, 20178 yr That is correct. 1GB is not very much especially if you have high settings and flying into an eye-candy airport or scenery and/or heavy weather. For instance, here is an fsuipc.txt (log) of a flight I took from FlightBeam KSFO to Orbx KSAN in real weather in the PMDG 738: Spoiler 1109 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 1109 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1109 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1125 G:\FSX\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT 1125 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR 3234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 0 3516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3457412 13328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3384384 23328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280272 33328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3208548 45531 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR 72781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2947276 73234 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 73297 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 73391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1911448 83391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2514584 93391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2478840 103578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2108360 113578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1743840 144547 Weather Mode now = Theme 144547 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 144625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1841376 146641 Aircraft="Boeing 737-832NGX Delta Air Lines Winglets" 146641 System time = 03/10/2017 15:34:05, Simulator time = 15:31:40 (22:31Z) 153531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2392108 163531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2464828 172375 Weather Mode now = Real World 173766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1815828 183766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1675572 193766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1707452 203828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1739172 223703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704 233766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439196 243953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704 253766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439228 264016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1733536 273891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1737728 283953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1606600 293953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1288244 303750 Starting everything now ... 303984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968360 305016 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 313953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 943516 324000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 937056 334078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 981404 354156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008408 364172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 891724 374219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 839268 384250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 787052 394297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 818216 404344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 819316 424453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803124 444547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803648 454594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803248 474641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 802452 494750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792388 504781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792816 514828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792256 544938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 822408 555000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 826684 565078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771304 575109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771876 585156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 770764 595188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 754572 615297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748352 625344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748840 635406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 749360 645422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746776 685641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 747852 695688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748452 705703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746816 745891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 743416 755969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 739012 766047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727448 776094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 706364 786125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 725016 796188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 730768 806250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 744724 816297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 760428 826344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1111896 836375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109320 846391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109808 866484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061232 876563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061676 886609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060984 896641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060236 906688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1077948 916719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1076892 926797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1073000 936828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1080044 946859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1085908 956891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1045112 966922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1059536 976984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055676 987031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1103912 997094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106996 1007125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1110460 1017188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1120380 1027234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1070256 1037281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1114004 1047328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1112552 1057359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1053456 1067406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1088968 1077453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086516 1087516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1127468 1097547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1126612 1107609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125796 1117672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118292 1127703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1136556 1137766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1143648 1147797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125332 1157875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1100568 1167938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1105172 1177969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1097256 1188016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1054472 1198047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1096600 1208125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1116720 1218156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138768 1228219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061332 1238266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1163240 1248344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1243796 1258359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1266216 1268406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1276188 1278469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282276 1288516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271220 1298531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301876 1308594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302924 1318656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302904 1328703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302920 1338750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311652 1342156 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1039 secs = 27.7 fps 1342156 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1348797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1216872 1358828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1225744 1368875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1299976 1378938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302720 1388984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311768 1399016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305884 1409078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306408 1419125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323288 1429156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1286872 1440094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258364 1440125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 98 secs = 33.0 fps 1440125 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1449281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1231768 1459328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1221100 1469375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248928 1489469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1265136 1499531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258792 1504328 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 63 secs = 31.7 fps 1504328 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1509750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1237240 1519625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1228864 1529688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1220860 1539719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1214372 1549766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1230648 1556172 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1559875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138960 1565641 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 56 secs = 22.3 fps 1565641 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1569938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1123476 1579984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1042260 1590016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007432 1600047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036552 1610109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036660 1620188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1024172 1630219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1025548 1640234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968480 1651234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055212 1651594 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1660406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 869500 1670422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 876712 1680547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 844616 1690563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727136 1700594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722516 1710641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 742492 1720703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 741520 1730781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 738988 1740859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 733824 1751641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722732 1752484 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1760969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 759476 1771031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 670892 1781094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 646892 1791125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 660092 1801297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 618588 1811266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 648464 1821313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 641768 1831375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 585184 1841406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 796936 1851469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 797476 1861500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799408 1871547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 798764 1891188 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1891656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 761636 1901719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 789348 1921813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 807304 1931875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 801280 1951984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 750500 1962000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 814156 1982094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 753484 1992172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799180 2002219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 800604 2012281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 834944 2042438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843764 2072578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 855260 2082625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849856 2102734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849868 2132875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853384 2163000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843504 2183125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853364 2213297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850120 2223328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124 2303766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 847488 2313781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124 2333891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894160 2343953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 955804 2353984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988472 2364047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 959492 2374078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016296 2384141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 987696 2394188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016676 2444484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1011528 2454563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 907248 2472156 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 2474672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 903048 2504828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904464 2514875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895024 2534969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894076 2565125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893092 2575172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894428 2642531 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 2645547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866604 2655609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 567108 2675688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 551556 2695797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 490812 2705875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 518316 2715906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462868 2725938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462812 2736031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 457976 2746094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 441936 2756156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429932 2766234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409216 2776250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402360 2786297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398472 2796375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 388712 2806453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 378600 2816531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 374792 2826563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 361652 2836609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 343188 2846750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 326604 2856734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 319424 2866813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347520 2876859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381976 2886938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 375600 2897016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396276 2907109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 373804 2917109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 371820 2927203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381312 2937250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 386400 2947297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 391204 2957375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401436 2967438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 403936 2977484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401344 2987578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 400076 2997625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396428 3007672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398420 3017734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394984 3027766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394612 3037797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396948 3047859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396496 3057953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395084 3068000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 379496 3078078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 316404 3088141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395512 3098219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401076 3108250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 390732 3118313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422240 3128359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422080 3138438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 417296 3148500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415360 3158531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419048 3168563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419332 3178625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 424900 3188703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429772 3198734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 425552 3208781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 433376 3218828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 443796 3228906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 476240 3238969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429060 3249063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 435712 3259078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 445688 3269172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446500 3279188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446740 3289266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347044 3299313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 328032 3309344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422336 3319438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415644 3329516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 451264 3339531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 439512 3349609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 407520 3359656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448532 3369688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411316 3379781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 410108 3389828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409532 3399844 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402200 3409922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411916 3419969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 444544 3430031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448060 3440109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 341388 3450203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 350440 3460234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 452976 3469328 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 3471172 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1903 secs = 28.7 fps 3471172 Max AI traffic was 294 aircraft (Deleted 0) 3474891 === DLLStop called ... 3474891 === Closing external processes we started ... 3475891 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 3476047 === Closing global Lua thread 3477047 === About to kill my timers ... 3477250 === Restoring window procs ... 3477250 === Unloading libraries ... 3477250 === stopping other threads ... 3477250 === ... Memory checking ... 3477250 === ... Button scanning ... 3477344 === ... Axis scanning ... 3477453 === Releasing joystick devices ... 3477453 === Freeing macro memory 3477453 === Removing any offset overrides 3477453 === Clearing any displays left 3477453 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 3477453 === AI slots deleted! 3477453 === Freeing button memory ... 3477453 === Closing my Windows ... 3477453 === Freeing FS libraries ... 3478453 === Closing devices ... 3478453 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 3478453 System time = 03/10/2017 16:29:37, Simulator time = 13:48:45 (20:48Z) 3478453 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 11.0 fps, Maximum was 89.5 fpsMinimum available memory recorded was 309Mb Average frame rate for running time of 3164 secs = 28.4 fps G3D fix: Passes 556509, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 18, Separate instances 6 Maximum AI traffic for session was 294 aircraft Memory managed: 1484 Allocs, 1484 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! 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November 10, 20178 yr Repeating what was said earlier. 32 bit apps can't page the full 4GB of address space. You'll get 3GB at best. Secondly, the memory can't be partially allocated. If the application is currentry using 2GB and issues a request for another 500MB, it will be issued. If the application were to requesr for 1.1GB, it will fail right then and there without going above 2GB usage. Your log is showing history not trends nor requested load. Clearly an oversimplified example, but it's another way of saying that you can only sspeculate the limited information you have. This is much wisdom here in checking the guide and reducing detail sliders. This is the limitation of the platform that so many have learned to cope with over the years. I don't know if the FSX application provides logging that includes memory allocation. I've never had a reason to look at that, but it is something that I have dealt with at work. However with my systems I know exactly how memory is used our at least how it is designed to be used. FSX is a black box. Even if you found a log that told you by how much the memory limits were exceeded, the above advice remains exactly the same. Also see definition of insanity. :)
November 10, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, Jim Young said: That is correct. 1GB is not very much especially if you have high settings and flying into an eye-candy airport or scenery and/or heavy weather. For instance, here is an fsuipc.txt (log) of a flight I took from FlightBeam KSFO to Orbx KSAN in real weather in the PMDG 738: Reveal hidden contents 1109 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 1109 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1109 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1125 G:\FSX\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT 1125 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR 3234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 0 3516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3457412 13328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3384384 23328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280272 33328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3208548 45531 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR 72781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2947276 73234 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 73297 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 73391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1911448 83391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2514584 93391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2478840 103578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2108360 113578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1743840 144547 Weather Mode now = Theme 144547 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 144625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1841376 146641 Aircraft="Boeing 737-832NGX Delta Air Lines Winglets" 146641 System time = 03/10/2017 15:34:05, Simulator time = 15:31:40 (22:31Z) 153531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2392108 163531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2464828 172375 Weather Mode now = Real World 173766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1815828 183766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1675572 193766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1707452 203828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1739172 223703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704 233766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439196 243953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704 253766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439228 264016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1733536 273891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1737728 283953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1606600 293953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1288244 303750 Starting everything now ... 303984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968360 305016 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 313953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 943516 324000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 937056 334078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 981404 354156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008408 364172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 891724 374219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 839268 384250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 787052 394297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 818216 404344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 819316 424453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803124 444547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803648 454594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803248 474641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 802452 494750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792388 504781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792816 514828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792256 544938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 822408 555000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 826684 565078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771304 575109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771876 585156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 770764 595188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 754572 615297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748352 625344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748840 635406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 749360 645422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746776 685641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 747852 695688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748452 705703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746816 745891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 743416 755969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 739012 766047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727448 776094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 706364 786125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 725016 796188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 730768 806250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 744724 816297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 760428 826344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1111896 836375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109320 846391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109808 866484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061232 876563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061676 886609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060984 896641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060236 906688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1077948 916719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1076892 926797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1073000 936828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1080044 946859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1085908 956891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1045112 966922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1059536 976984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055676 987031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1103912 997094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106996 1007125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1110460 1017188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1120380 1027234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1070256 1037281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1114004 1047328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1112552 1057359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1053456 1067406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1088968 1077453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086516 1087516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1127468 1097547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1126612 1107609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125796 1117672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118292 1127703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1136556 1137766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1143648 1147797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125332 1157875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1100568 1167938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1105172 1177969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1097256 1188016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1054472 1198047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1096600 1208125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1116720 1218156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138768 1228219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061332 1238266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1163240 1248344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1243796 1258359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1266216 1268406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1276188 1278469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282276 1288516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271220 1298531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301876 1308594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302924 1318656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302904 1328703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302920 1338750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311652 1342156 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1039 secs = 27.7 fps 1342156 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1348797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1216872 1358828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1225744 1368875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1299976 1378938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302720 1388984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311768 1399016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305884 1409078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306408 1419125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323288 1429156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1286872 1440094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258364 1440125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 98 secs = 33.0 fps 1440125 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1449281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1231768 1459328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1221100 1469375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248928 1489469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1265136 1499531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258792 1504328 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 63 secs = 31.7 fps 1504328 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1509750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1237240 1519625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1228864 1529688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1220860 1539719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1214372 1549766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1230648 1556172 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1559875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138960 1565641 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 56 secs = 22.3 fps 1565641 Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0) 1569938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1123476 1579984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1042260 1590016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007432 1600047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036552 1610109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036660 1620188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1024172 1630219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1025548 1640234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968480 1651234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055212 1651594 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1660406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 869500 1670422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 876712 1680547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 844616 1690563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727136 1700594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722516 1710641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 742492 1720703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 741520 1730781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 738988 1740859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 733824 1751641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722732 1752484 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1760969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 759476 1771031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 670892 1781094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 646892 1791125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 660092 1801297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 618588 1811266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 648464 1821313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 641768 1831375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 585184 1841406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 796936 1851469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 797476 1861500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799408 1871547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 798764 1891188 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 1891656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 761636 1901719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 789348 1921813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 807304 1931875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 801280 1951984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 750500 1962000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 814156 1982094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 753484 1992172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799180 2002219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 800604 2012281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 834944 2042438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843764 2072578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 855260 2082625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849856 2102734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849868 2132875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853384 2163000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843504 2183125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853364 2213297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850120 2223328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124 2303766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 847488 2313781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124 2333891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894160 2343953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 955804 2353984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988472 2364047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 959492 2374078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016296 2384141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 987696 2394188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016676 2444484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1011528 2454563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 907248 2472156 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 2474672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 903048 2504828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904464 2514875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895024 2534969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894076 2565125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893092 2575172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894428 2642531 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented *** 2645547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866604 2655609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 567108 2675688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 551556 2695797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 490812 2705875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 518316 2715906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462868 2725938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462812 2736031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 457976 2746094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 441936 2756156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429932 2766234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409216 2776250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402360 2786297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398472 2796375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 388712 2806453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 378600 2816531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 374792 2826563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 361652 2836609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 343188 2846750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 326604 2856734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 319424 2866813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347520 2876859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381976 2886938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 375600 2897016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396276 2907109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 373804 2917109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 371820 2927203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381312 2937250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 386400 2947297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 391204 2957375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401436 2967438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 403936 2977484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401344 2987578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 400076 2997625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396428 3007672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398420 3017734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394984 3027766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394612 3037797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396948 3047859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396496 3057953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395084 3068000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 379496 3078078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 316404 3088141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395512 3098219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401076 3108250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 390732 3118313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422240 3128359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422080 3138438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 417296 3148500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415360 3158531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419048 3168563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419332 3178625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 424900 3188703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429772 3198734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 425552 3208781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 433376 3218828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 443796 3228906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 476240 3238969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429060 3249063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 435712 3259078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 445688 3269172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446500 3279188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446740 3289266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347044 3299313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 328032 3309344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422336 3319438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415644 3329516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 451264 3339531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 439512 3349609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 407520 3359656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448532 3369688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411316 3379781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 410108 3389828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409532 3399844 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402200 3409922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411916 3419969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 444544 3430031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448060 3440109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 341388 3450203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 350440 3460234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 452976 3469328 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 3471172 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1903 secs = 28.7 fps 3471172 Max AI traffic was 294 aircraft (Deleted 0) 3474891 === DLLStop called ... 3474891 === Closing external processes we started ... 3475891 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 3476047 === Closing global Lua thread 3477047 === About to kill my timers ... 3477250 === Restoring window procs ... 3477250 === Unloading libraries ... 3477250 === stopping other threads ... 3477250 === ... Memory checking ... 3477250 === ... Button scanning ... 3477344 === ... Axis scanning ... 3477453 === Releasing joystick devices ... 3477453 === Freeing macro memory 3477453 === Removing any offset overrides 3477453 === Clearing any displays left 3477453 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 3477453 === AI slots deleted! 3477453 === Freeing button memory ... 3477453 === Closing my Windows ... 3477453 === Freeing FS libraries ... 3478453 === Closing devices ... 3478453 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 3478453 System time = 03/10/2017 16:29:37, Simulator time = 13:48:45 (20:48Z) 3478453 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 11.0 fps, Maximum was 89.5 fpsMinimum available memory recorded was 309Mb Average frame rate for running time of 3164 secs = 28.4 fps G3D fix: Passes 556509, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 18, Separate instances 6 Maximum AI traffic for session was 294 aircraft Memory managed: 1484 Allocs, 1484 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Ok well I'll start turning some sliders down and also try and get you guys an fsuipc log, plus several of the other pieces of advice given on this forum, thanks for all the help it just really confused me how it would simply always OOM at Toronto even without approaching the 4GB limit, but the spiking makes sense i guess. Signed Jon
November 11, 20178 yr Only 1 answer. I had the same and began questioning my involvement in my beloved hobby: Flight simulation. I was miserable, day after day. I was ready to move on to something other than Flight simulation. Then, after reading about the many happy simmers out there, I decided to do what they were doing. The answer, and the only answer in my humble opinion, is to go to a 64 bit program: Prepar3d version 4.1 Absolutely NO MORE OOM's. End of story. Stan
November 12, 20178 yr On 11.11.2017 at 1:31 AM, spilok said: Only 1 answer. I had the same and began questioning my involvement in my beloved hobby: Flight simulation. I was miserable, day after day. I was ready to move on to something other than Flight simulation. Then, after reading about the many happy simmers out there, I decided to do what they were doing. The answer, and the only answer in my humble opinion, is to go to a 64 bit program: Prepar3d version 4.1 Absolutely NO MORE OOM's. End of story. Stan It is uneconomical and unreasonable to pay a whole lot of bucks for a swap when you can fix the broken thing easily and constrain yourself to the KISS principle. Just read the AVSIM FSX Config Guide and don't run every feature and addon at once and at peak quality. Best regards, Christian Kelter
December 24, 20178 yr On 11/7/2017 at 3:23 PM, pracines said: it is totally worth the cost to buy P3D and re buy PMDG products, Why re buy PMDG? I can't afford to pay twice for 747, MD-11 and T7 Patricio Valdes
December 25, 20178 yr It's your decision. Yes, it's more money, but now I am finally enjoying my flight simming experience. Kinda like a good steak....costs more, but a cheap steak isn't worth it at all. You can't escape the fact that a 64 bit program is what is necessary for flight simming today. Too much great scenery, great planes, great eye candy. 32 bits can't cut it. The longer you wait to move, the more it will cost because you'll still be investing good money in FSX. Just my opinion...take it for what it's worth. Stan
December 25, 20178 yr Jon, if you don't already have it, get FSX:SE - it's built with a more efficient and better-optimised compiler and includes a fix to flush all levels of detail in the terrain cache. It's usually significantly cheaper in sales after Christmas. As has already been suggested, use DX10 preview mode with Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer. Also, you've probably already read it as you have PMDG aircraft but this is worth another read: https://support.precisionmanuals.com/kb/a108/vas-management-stopping-out-of-memory-oom-errors.aspx i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
December 25, 20178 yr +2. It's simply not possible to use the PMDG 777 (or, for that matter, most any complex aircraft) with the sliders set that high and avoid the OOM problem. As spesimen said above, non-contiguous memory space is an issue that can't be overcome. And FSX is notorious for poor memory management.....Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
December 25, 20178 yr On 11/7/2017 at 3:23 PM, pracines said: The OOM solution is a 64bit flight sim - if you must fly the PMDG 777, then Prepar3D version 4 (64-bit) is your only option. I thought AVSIM FSX Configuration Guide is the solution so far. Regarding on Prepar3D v4 (64-bit), will work with all FSX Add-on payware and freeware? It sounds like we can add some sceneries only and to purchase aircrafts again as PMDG, Level-D, and others ...... Going back to AVSIM FSX CG is the right option if not the best and with huge savings. Patricio Valdes
December 25, 20178 yr On 11/10/2017 at 7:31 PM, spilok said: Prepar3d version 4.1 Absolutely NO MORE OOM's. If we load FSX with only the airports in flight I guess we don't have OOM, do we? Patricio Valdes
December 25, 20178 yr 10 minutes ago, trisho0 said: If we load FSX with only the airports in flight I guess we don't have OOM, do we? Airports only load if in a certain radius of your aircraft. Photoscenery will load no matter where in the world it is located and whether you have a flight plan over it or not. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 25, 20178 yr 15 minutes ago, Jim Young said: Photoscenery will load no matter where in the world it is located and whether you have a flight plan over it or not. You mean the Default sceneries right? Not the scenery payware correct? Patricio Valdes
December 25, 20178 yr When I ran Process Monitor during a flight I did not see any of my FSDT or any other payware airport scenery loading. I did see some stuff from Orbx loading, like at Friday Harbor but that's from the bgl's in the Scenery/World/Scenery. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
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