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Kai Tak (Old Hong Kong) VHHX Navigraph Airac 1712

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Folks

For those interested in procedures for Kai Tak, the latest Airac from Navigraph (1712) contain those procedures.

Thanks go to Martin Stewart who worked very hard to produce this body of work in ARINC format for Richard Stephan of Navigraph to publish.

Well done men.

The real beauty of this is that VHHX procedures have been produced in many developer's format by Navigraph so many more Flight Simmers can enjoy the challenges of the old Kai Tak.

Cheers

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I have the 1712r.1 version but no Kai-Tak airport in FMC,thanks in advance.

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Thank you for your response.I have the flytampa Kai Tak airport from Aerosoft.My OS  FSX has this airport but not the Navigraph 1712 in his content,therefore,i cant navigate directly to VHHX in my FMC (PMDG 777,747.737).Thanks again.

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4 hours ago, CPT747 said:

Thank you for your response.I have the flytampa Kai Tak airport from Aerosoft.My OS  FSX has this airport but not the Navigraph 1712 in his content,therefore,i cant navigate directly to VHHX in my FMC (PMDG 777,747.737).Thanks again.

Hi CPT747,

As far as I know, only Navigraph has begun including Kai Tak (VHHX) in its FMC data, beginning with Airac 1712.  There is no such thing as Navigraph data for FSX. The Airac must be installed for each individual addon maker -- there is one Navdata installation for all PMDG aircraft in FSX.  If you load any of your PMDG aircraft, 777, 747, 737 NGX, you should see the Airac number and dates on the FMC opening/Ident page.  If you then select the Routes page and choose VHHX as your departure or arrival airport, you should see the appropriate runways (13 and 31) and arrivals or departures on the Departure or Arrival page.  It works for me!

You don't actually need any Kai Tak scenery to see the Kai Tak data on your FMC, although of course the navdata won't be of much use without some scenery!

Mike

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Thank you for your informative response Mike777.Indeed i cant see destination or arrivals or runways on my FMC updated to 1712 Airac from Navigraph,VHHX only is not existing as destination on my FMC ,any other airports do appear on my FMC,AIRAC 1712r.1 is correct. Thanks again and appreciated.

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2 hours ago, CPT747 said:

Thank you for your informative response Mike777.Indeed i cant see destination or arrivals or runways on my FMC updated to 1712 Airac from Navigraph,VHHX only is not existing as destination on my FMC ,any other airports do appear on my FMC,AIRAC 1712r.1 is correct. Thanks again and appreciated.

Since you have several PMDG aircraft installed:

Are you sure you have airac 1712 installed for PMDG?  Look in the folder

...\FSX\PMDG\NAVDATA

Open the file "cycle_info.txt" with Notepad and see what airac number and what dates are showing.

Also look in the folder

... \FSX\PMDG\SIDSTARS

and see if there is a file called vhhx.txt.  If there is, open it and see if it is from Navigraph and if it has an airac number.

If everything looks good,  again go to

...\FSX\PMDG\NAVDATA

and delete the file ARPT_RWY.dat .  This is safe to do.  It will rebuild the next time you load a PMDG 747 or 777.  It is not part of the Navigraph navdata. Load a PMDG 747 or 777 and see if it works now with VHHX.

Please report back what you find as you may not be the only one having this problem.

Mike

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Hi Mike777.

Yes,i have installed AIRAC 1712 for PMDG,date is 9.November2017.

VHHX.txt is existing but that is from airac cycle 1309,dated on 19.08.2013

I have deleted the file ARPT_RWY.dat,reloaded the PMDG 777,it does not work with VHHX,So i can report to you:that is the situation now here.Many thanks again and again.

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So is VHHX included in the AIRAC download or do we still have to add it by hand? The recent posts seem to contradict the first post.

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Dear Angelo Cosma,

Please tell me how can i add that VHHX by hand ?.Thank you.

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Hi, All

As of the 1712 AIRAC release of the Navigraph data, VHHX exists in the data for all supported aircraft types. It does not exist in the current release of NavDataPro, and I have no idea what their plans may or may not be for support.

DJ

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Dear Angelo Cosma,

I have downloaded the PMDG V.5.0 file and installed in FSX but no success with,i get the notify in FMC:Not in database,i give up.Many thanks for your input and support.

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4 hours ago, CPT747 said:

Yes,i have installed AIRAC 1712 for PMDG,date is 9.November2017.

VHHX.txt is existing but that is from airac cycle 1309,dated on 19.08.2013

Hi CPT747,

Sorry you are still having a problem.  However some of the things you are saying don't make sense to me.  You say that there's a VHHX.txt file, but it is from Airac 1309.  1309 is the original PMDG 777 airac.  I still have it as a backup, and there is no vhhx.txt file in it (in the SIDSTARS folder).  Navigraph certainly was not including Kai Tak/VHHX data back in 2013. 

To get more help from me you will need to be much more precise as to what you did and where you are looking.  Just to repeat some questions you never answered:

1) What airac and date are showing on the opening/Ident page of the 777 (or 747)? 

2) Did you look in the ...\FSX\PMDG\NAVDATA folder and open the "cycle_info.txt" file with Notepad?  What airac is showing there?  Is it from Navigraph?

3) (New question) In addition, in what folder did you find the vhhx.txt file (the one with Airac 1309)?

I am pretty sure you are doing something wrong in installing the PMDG 1712 Airac.  I just re-downloaded the PMDG Airac 1712 a few minutes ago from Navigraph, and VHHX/Kai Tak is definitely there.  I just loaded the PMDG 777 and on the Ident page of the FMC I see Airac 1712 Nov 9 to Dec. 6 2017. (You can get to the Ident page from the Index, and probably from the opening page of the FMC where you can click on "FMC". ) When I set VHHX as destination on the route page, and then look on the Arrival page, there are the two runways and a bunch of STARs that I recognize.

Finally, there is no point in using Jock McIntyre's program or manual install instructions at VAPAP.com, when he and his friend Martin Stewart are the people who provided the information to Navigraph!  They wanted to eliminate the necessity of reinstalling VHHX every time a new airac is installed, and to make it available for aircraft where it is not possible to install manually.

Mike

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4 minutes ago, CPT747 said:

Dear Angelo Cosma,

I have downloaded the PMDG V.5.0 file and installed in FSX but no success with,i get the notify in FMC:Not in database,i give up.Many thanks for your input and support.

What is PMDG V 5.0?

Mike

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Dear Mike777,

I got this address from Angelo Cosma:Please look at this

  2 hours ago, CPT747 said:

Dear Angelo Cosma,

Please tell me how can i add that VHHX by hand ?.Thank you.

http://vapap.com/kai-tak-airport

sorry,i dont know anymore,my english is so poor,i cant explain all those things exactly in english language.Many thanks for your help and support and input.Thanks again.

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38 minutes ago, CPT747 said:

sorry,i dont know anymore,my english is so poor,i cant explain all those things exactly in english language.Many thanks for your help and support and input.Thanks again.

How's your French?

Mike

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2 hours ago, Mike777 said:

What is PMDG V 5.0?

Mike

It is the file name from the vpapp website. If navigraph is tested and reported working we can forget about this. If it is still non functioning then that website is where you get the files to manual install. 

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1 hour ago, Angelo Cosma said:

It is the file name from the vpapp website. If navigraph is tested and reported working we can forget about this. If it is still non functioning then that website is where you get the files to manual install. 

Hi Angelo,

Didn't connect PMDG 5.0 to VAPAP site.  AFAIK 1712 is working fine for VHHX - I've loaded it on PMDG 777, Quality Wings 787, FSLabs A320 and Level-D 767.  The  data shows up in all their flight computers and I've made flights using the PMDG 777 and QW 787 with no issues related to the nav data.  Have you tested it on any aircraft?

I think CPT747's issues could be resolved by someone who is fluent in German.

Mike

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