GHarrall

Bernt Stolle FDE - removed from carenado website

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So I was looking for the Bernt Stolle Fde and cab files for the caravan. They seem to have been removed from the carenado updates section on the website?

i see there is a version for the fsx default caravan on the web, but this does not include the cab file changes that Bernt made to the gauges to remove the hidden spoiler effect. 

Anyone have the fde package that they could upload or share?

thanks 

glenn

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34 minutes ago, GHarrall said:

So I was looking for the Bernt Stolle Fde and cab files for the caravan. They seem to have been removed from the carenado updates section on the website?

i see there is a version for the fsx default caravan on the web, but this does not include the cab file changes that Bernt made to the gauges to remove the hidden spoiler effect. 

Anyone have the fde package that they could upload or share?

thanks 

glenn

 

This it?

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/10193/fsx-default-cessna-208-caravan-new-fde/

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Looks like they have removed all 'optional' patches from their website. Just downloaded and checked the 208 and it comes with the really bad default FDE :(

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10 hours ago, ppo said:

I have that file. Send me a PM with your e-mail

Sent......thx!

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7 hours ago, J35OE said:

Looks like they have removed all 'optional' patches from their website. Just downloaded and checked the 208 and it comes with the really bad default FDE :(

Yes, I contacted carenado support and was told that they dont remove files from the website. Urrrm......hello.

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The usual Carenado "la la la we're not listening, can't here you, did you say something?" then *sigh*

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4 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

The usual Carenado "la la la we're not listening, can't here you, did you say something?" then *sigh*

Hi Folks,

Followed by them sending you a survey to critique their performance ? LOL - insult to injury...

Regards,
Scott

 

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9 hours ago, J35OE said:

Looks like they have removed all 'optional' patches from their website. Just downloaded and checked the 208 and it comes with the really bad default FDE :(

Yeah, its really bad without the fix Bernt did. You put the throttle at idle and its like a speedbrake has been thrown out. The deceleration is about 10 knots per second!

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Hi Folks,

I had this in FS9 - you had to fly like 30 knots faster than book approach speed or you would fall out of the sky... How's she look in P3D ? Have the nice P3D reflections and shine - or is this model too old for that ?

Regards,
Scott

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I think the model passes as 'good enough' in v4. If I could just get the FDE fix back in I would be a happy man.

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4 minutes ago, Caribpilot said:

There is a possibility that they included it with the last update of the Caravan.

I wondered about that...wonder if there's any way to tell.  I installed it last night and flew around a bit.  Apart from being dated, it flies pretty nice.  Wish JustFlight or A2A would do a version, though. 

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18 minutes ago, Caribpilot said:

There is a possibility that they included it with the last update of the Caravan.

 

9 minutes ago, Gregg_Seipp said:

I wondered about that...wonder if there's any way to tell.  I installed it last night and flew around a bit.  Apart from being dated, it flies pretty nice.  Wish JustFlight or A2A would do a version, though. 

 

Not a chance this happened. You can easily tell. Just put the throttle to idle and watch the insane speed bleed off. This has been discussed on a long thread from years ago. The current download exhibits all of the issues discussed.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Gregg_Seipp said:

I wondered about that...wonder if there's any way to tell. 

Yes, there is.It's still the old FDE.

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I heard back again from Carenado. Apparently the file was mislaid during a website update. They will be putting the 208 optional FDE package back up on the website later today. Good news!

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Hi Folks,

Nice - I had planned to grab the 208 - - - but - - - not without the Stolle FDE...

Regards,
Scott

 

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You can download the new FDE for the FSX default 208 first to check if you like it. The Carenado version is basically identical ( just slightly different contact points due to the mdl differences)

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1 minute ago, J35OE said:

You can download the new FDE for the FSX default 208 first to check if you like it. The Carenado version is basically identical ( just slightly different contact points due to the mdl differences)

Not true. The Carenado files from Bernt also comes with a modified gauge.cab which removes the invisible spoiler effect at throttle idle. 

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14 minutes ago, GHarrall said:

Not true. The Carenado files from Bernt also comes with a modified gauge.cab which removes the invisible spoiler effect at throttle idle. 

The original FSX version (and hence the new FDE) don't have a modified gauge which uses invisible spoilers.

Carenado simply removed the spoiler-effect from the gauge in their version. 

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6 minutes ago, J35OE said:

The original FSX version (and hence the new FDE) don't have a modified gauge which uses invisible spoilers.

Carenado simply removed the spoiler-effect from the gauge in their version. 

Sorry I don't get you.

The current installer of the Carenado Caravan clearly includes the 'hidden spoiler'. You can tell by the massive speed loss at throttle idle.

The optional file which will be restored on the Carenado website includes 2 files. The modified aircraft.cfg file AND a .cab gauge file which removes this spoiler effect.

The modified FDE is pretty much useless unless you can also get rid of the spoiler effect.

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The present Carenado version has the spoiler effect to simulate prop drag. 

The new FDE for the Carenado version is identical with the new FDE for the FSX version, but Carenado had to remove the spoiler effect for the new FDE to work correctly.

That's why there's an updated gauge for the Carenado version. The only change is the deleted spoiler effect.

The optional FDE hopefully consists of 3 files;  air, cfg and cab.

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Right. So without the deleted spoiler effect, just installing a new FDE file isn't going to help much. 

Hence why we need the .cab from Carenado reinstating. 

Just installing the modified default fde isn't going to help much and certainly won't give you a good idea with the Carenado version because of the silly spoiler effect.

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