February 27, 20188 yr Hi everyone! I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse but... Like the title says P3d disappears after the start screen. I've tried deleting P3d and starting with a fresh copy of P3d I've downloaded all my planes back into P3d and my planes work fine until I download Navigraph 1802 rev 1 to my PMDG planes, then everything goes south in a hand basket. Before that when I installed the Navigraph update into my Carenado planes and PMDG planes I got a black screen. I've been at this all day and I'm about ready to take a #6 ball peen hammer to the whole blasted computer. I've tried deleting the Prepar3d.cfg file and the Prepar3D_Default.fxml and Prepar3D_Default.wx. Other than starting over (again), there has to be a way to fix this without going to extremes (again). I really appreciate any help that anybody could give me at this point. Edited February 27, 20188 yr by HitomiNeko
February 27, 20188 yr I had this issue and narrowed it down to RAAS module. Try editing the dll.xml and exe.xml files to make each module disabled (set disabled to true) and then enable them one by one, loading P3D in between
February 27, 20188 yr Which version of P3D, what operating system, which airplane(s)? Any other add-ons? Have you tried loading a default plane, and if it loads OK, switching to the addon of choice? Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 27, 20188 yr Do you use SpadNext? I had a similar problem. It was associated with this app . Link to fix http://www.spadnext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4198. Hope this helps. Robin
February 27, 20188 yr Author I'm using Prepar3d v3.4.22.19868 and the following add-ons: PMDG 737-800/900 base pack PMDG 737-600/700 expansion pack PMDG 747-400 Queen of the Skies II Carenado Beechcraft King Air 350i Carenado Beechcraft 390 Premier 1A Carenado Hawker 850 XP Carenado Piper PA-42 Cheyenne III Carenado Piper PA-46 Malibu Meridian Carenado Piper PA-46 Malibu Meridian Navigraph Extension Pack REX 4 Texture Direct with Soft Clouds I'm running a Lenovo 700-25ISH (everything is stock like the day I bought it) Windows 10 Home Edition Intel Core i5 (6th Gen) 6400 / 2.7 GHz 8 GB DDR4 SDRAM NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2 GB of memory (I know it's not the greatest video card but it was running Prepar3d just fine until this hiccup) I have plenty of hard drive space if you were wondering if I might be low on hard drive space. Now I did run Soft Clouds and all of the textures that I downloaded to Prepar3d worked fine. That was the first thing I installed, after that it was the PMDG and Carenado planes and after every subsequent install I'd run Prepar3d to make sure it worked. The moment I tried to install Navigraph either in just the PMDG aircraft or the Carenado aircraft or both PMDG and Carenado aircraft, that's when everything goes awry. I can't for the life of me figure out what or where the problem lies. If anyone is more adept than me I'll gladly give them full credit for rectifying the problem. Edited February 27, 20188 yr by HitomiNeko
February 27, 20188 yr Moderator Try installing an older Navigraph airac - if that works - then your problem is with the new cycle. Possibly redownload? Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
February 28, 20188 yr Ensure that your Win 10 is up to date...there was an update to WIndows released back in Oct that caused 32-bit P3D versions to crash right after the start screen as you describe...it was fixed in the Microshaft monthly update released on 12 Dec 17. If your OS updates come through the OEM (Lenovo) rather than Microsoft, you could still be affected if they're running behind. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 28, 20188 yr 21 hours ago, vgbaron said: Try installing an older Navigraph airac - if that works - then your problem is with the new cycle. Possibly redownload? Vic Navigraph and AIRAC stuff does not even think about loading until the flight is loaded. Just the modules in the dll.xml and default stuff. So it is most likely a bad module in the dll.xml. To quickly identify whether it is one of the two dll.xml's, you rename each to dll.xml.off, restart and see if that fixes the problem. If so, it is one of those modules. There are more possibilities outlined on page 32, AVSIM CTD Guide (see link in my signature), Application Will not Start. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
February 28, 20188 yr Author Jim Young, You were right it was a dll.xml file.Thank you so much for the help I really appreciate it. I found out it was the dll.xml file in App Data\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3d. Now what do I do about the corrupt dll.xml file? And now my Carenado and PMDG planes say "Loading Database" but nothing seems to be happening. With the Carenado planes I have the load window but with the PMDG planes I have nothing to gauge if it's trying load or not. Edited February 28, 20188 yr by HitomiNeko
March 1, 20188 yr Author This is the contents of the dll.xml file that I disabled App Data\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\ Prepar3d. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it? Also, I'd like to amend my previous post in which I said that both PMDG and Carenado both state that they're both "Loading Database". It's only Carenado that's giving me the message, PMDG's FMC seems to be working fine. <SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0"> <Descr>Launch</Descr> <Filename>dll.xml</Filename> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad> <Launch.Addon> <Name>PMDG_HUD_interface</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>PMDG\DLLs\PMDG_HUD_interface.dll</Path> <DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName> <DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>RAASPRO</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>.\RAASPRO\RAASPRO.dll</Path> <DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName> <DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>PMDG_Interface</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>PMDG\DLLs\PMDG_Interface.dll</Path> <DllStartName>module_init</DllStartName> <DllStopName>module_deinit</DllStopName> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>Carenavigraph</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>.\Carenavigraph.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> <Launch.Addon> <Name>CMeteoXml</Name> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Path>.\CMeteoXml.dll</Path> </Launch.Addon> </SimBase.Document>
March 1, 20188 yr Moderator The dll looks fine as far as context. What you need to do is disable all the addons and enable them one by one until you find which is the culprit. <Launch.Addon> is the start of each addon in each block you'll see this <Disabled>False</Disabled> change False to True to disable the addon and change it back to false to enable, Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
March 1, 20188 yr Author Everything seems to be running fine now since I disabled CMeteoXml. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this finally fixed the problem. Thank you everyone for all your help!
March 1, 20188 yr 4 hours ago, HitomiNeko said: Everything seems to be running fine now since I disabled CMeteoXml. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that this finally fixed the problem. Thank you everyone for all your help! CMeteoXml, from where does it come? I had it at in my dll.xml too, but deleted it because I did not know from where it was. No problems with addons so far. Edited March 1, 20188 yr by Nemo - Harry 9800x3D (Strix x870e-E) - 64GB RAM (DDR5 6000, CL 30) - RTX 5090, 34'' 1440p OLED HDR - Windows 11 Pro (1TB M.2) - MSFS 2024 (MS Store, 4TB M.2).
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