gpbarth

Windows 10 and FSX/FSX-SE

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I'm sure this has been addressed elsewhere, and it so, maybe you could just point me to that thread. But I've been out of the loop, so to speak, for quite awhile now. Before my computer bit the big one, I was running FSX/SE with "everything!" Running Win 7 /64. Reasonably well, I might add. A big part of that success was fine-tuning Win 7 to be as invisible as possible. No background processes, no screen savers, no nothing.

NOW - I have a brand new machine running Win 10/64 with a faster CPU, hotter graphics card, and faster RAM. I've reloaded FSX/SE, and all of my previous goodies. And now I'm in the process of reconfiguring everything. And the first thing I've noticed is that Win 10 really takes control of everything. It even watches over my browser requests and decides what I can or can't reach. It downloads updates with no approval, and doesn't care what happens. This Windows Defender crap is worse than any anti-virus program.

My question here is, how can I set up Win 10 specifically for FSX? This new machine is for gaming only. No personal stuff. No word processors, no email, no Facebook, no nothing. Only FSX and DCS World, and eventually Prepar3d. I don't want Windows to interfere with anything. No screen savers, no wallpaper, no background stuff. Win 7 was set up that way. Can I do that now with Win 10? And if so, how?

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2 hours ago, gpbarth said:

I'm sure this has been addressed elsewhere, and it so, maybe you could just point me to that thread. But I've been out of the loop, so to speak, for quite awhile now. Before my computer bit the big one, I was running FSX/SE with "everything!" Running Win 7 /64. Reasonably well, I might add. A big part of that success was fine-tuning Win 7 to be as invisible as possible. No background processes, no screen savers, no nothing.

NOW - I have a brand new machine running Win 10/64 with a faster CPU, hotter graphics card, and faster RAM. I've reloaded FSX/SE, and all of my previous goodies. And now I'm in the process of reconfiguring everything. And the first thing I've noticed is that Win 10 really takes control of everything. It even watches over my browser requests and decides what I can or can't reach. It downloads updates with no approval, and doesn't care what happens. This Windows Defender crap is worse than any anti-virus program.

My question here is, how can I set up Win 10 specifically for FSX? This new machine is for gaming only. No personal stuff. No word processors, no email, no Facebook, no nothing. Only FSX and DCS World, and eventually Prepar3d. I don't want Windows to interfere with anything. No screen savers, no wallpaper, no background stuff. Win 7 was set up that way. Can I do that now with Win 10? And if so, how?

If it were me I would install Win 7 Pro 64.

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2 hours ago, gpbarth said:

This Windows Defender crap is worse than any anti-virus program.

You may calm down and relax. I would bet that most of us here are on Windows 10 and pretty much trouble free in regard to OS.  Also, based on a recent topic here on Avsim it appears many, many, of us are using Windows Defender along with Malware Bytes for protection. It has been a flawless combination for me and has not taxed my system like a handful of paid AV suites did to me over the years.

The only flight sim related Windows 10 issue I had was actually with Saitek controls, panels, and Windows Enhanced Power Management. Fixes for those have been around for over two years now.  

Windows 10 allows much more user control than Windows 8, which drove me nuts with my wife's laptop.  I went from Windows 7 (old system) to Windows 10 (new system) and have not looked back.  Windows 8 created a lot of fear.

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Agree with everyone above, Windows 10 runs FSX well.  I have FSX (boxed) installed and no problems.  See the AVSIM FSX Configuration Guide for settings and other suggestions.

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Although I agree with the OP's frustration about Windows 10 installing things without my having any control over them, whether I want them or not, I also agree with the other posts - I have had zero problems with FSX-SE and Win10....

I am interested however in the comment about Saitek controls. My trusty old X55 system finally died and I just got the X52 pro and have had a real struggle getting it to run consistently. Can you steer me to the information about this, as I'm fairly sure it's a software problem...

Thanks

Ian

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1 hour ago, kiwiflyer45 said:

I am interested however in the comment about Saitek controls. My trusty old X55 system finally died and I just got the X52 pro and have had a real struggle getting it to run consistently. Can you steer me to the information about this, as I'm fairly sure it's a software problem...

The linked topic was not for the X52 but have seen it referenced in other topics, here and elsewhere.  You may be experiencing issues in regard to Windows Advanced Power Management.  i.e. features to sleep or shut down connected items, especially USB, to save power.  Oh My! More social pressure to go Green!

Check out this topic and read it in its entirety before jumping too quickly at changes. There are also links in the topic to other discussions.  I believe you will solve your issues after reading.  Just identify the behaviour you are experiencing and match the best of what you read to apply to the issue.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/486069-problems-with-saitek-radio-and-multi-panel-units/

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Thanks Frank. I was finally able to locate some up to date drivers - they are not hosted on Logitech or Saitek's websites but I followed a discussion thread until a link led me to them. The other thing I have found is that the cable connection that joins the throttle and the stick is not very reliable and I've learned to give each of the male plugs a push to make sure they are fully engaged before booting up the sim. So far, so good. I have to say that I'm pleased with the feel of the stick especially. I'm still getting used to the different switch positions and don't find them as intuitive as the X55 but nonetheless, I'm happy with the product, especially as I was able to get it at an excellent price on Amazon

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On 4/3/2018 at 1:36 PM, Wink207 said:

If it were me I would install Win 7 Pro 64.

If the hardware doesn't support 7, then he can't use it. Especially if drivers won't work with 7.

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Thanks for the info on adjusting Win10. I guess I know  what will be on my "to do" list for the weekend! :)

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We live in a Windows 10 world and I know my next desktop will have Windows 10, it's just a fact of life.  I think one important thing to do when installing sims and games is to specify their installation into a directory other than the default C:/Program Files directory.  Windows exercises a lot of control over this directory, installing to a folder that the user creates eliminates Windows' ability to prohibit altering installed files.

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5 hours ago, stans said:

We live in a Windows 10 world and I know my next desktop will have Windows 10, it's just a fact of life.  I think one important thing to do when installing sims and games is to specify their installation into a directory other than the default C:/Program Files directory.  Windows exercises a lot of control over this directory, installing to a folder that the user creates eliminates Windows' ability to prohibit altering installed files.

True. I have my flight sim applications on a separate, dedicated drive. I've done that for many years going back to FS9 and have never regretted it. As a result I have had very few issues resulting from a direct conflict between Windows and my flight simulators. My only issue with Windows 10 is that it is so intrusive by activating and even installing programs while I am running flight sim. I've learned that whenever I start having performance issues when flying I have to check Task Manager to see whatever activity windows has decided to carry out without my knowledge. But with the good advice I've been given here, I'm hoping to resolve at least some of that over the weekend

Cheers

Ian

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I disconnect my hub using the taskbar and fly FSX-SE offline. That stops Windows 10 interfering.

 

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