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Hello 

i have an annoyng problem; some flightplans are not present in the 737 fmc even though the folder where they should be exported is correct

the strange thing is that I have this problem only with some flight plans
when the simulation starts I can ask for the clearance I can communicate with the flight control 

after the request clearence i can not find the flight plan in the FMC so i have to quit the simulation because i dont have the route 

someone has encountered this problem?

 

thanks

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53 minutes ago, Eugenio Lo Cicero said:

the strange thing is that I have this problem only with some flight plans

Likely an issue with whatever you're using to export your flightplans.

Make sure to export them in PMDG format, and if needed, an additional format for whatever other tools you're using (ProATC).

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hello thanks for answer me

the format its ".rte" but i cant understand why sometimes he recognize the flightplan on the fmc and sometimes i cant see it 

 

i ever use pro atc for flightplans so for this its strange for example if i make:

LIRF/LIML

I can see the flighplan (maded by pro atc) on the pmdg fmc after asking for clearence

if i make 

FOOL/HECA 

No flightplan on fmc

if i use Areosoft Aircraft its all ok for all flightplans i have this problem only whit pmdg sometimes

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6 minutes ago, Eugenio Lo Cicero said:

i ever use pro atc for flightplans so for this its strange for example if i make:

It's probably due to how ProATC is formatting the flight plans. ProATC is for ATC. It's not built to be a flight plan tool. Use something like SimBrief, and have it export in PMDG and ProATC formats. Better flight plans, better results.

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19 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

It's probably due to how ProATC is formatting the flight plans. ProATC is for ATC. It's not built to be a flight plan tool. Use something like SimBrief, and have it export in PMDG and ProATC formats. Better flight plans, better results.

ok thanks i will try it 

you should recomended a good ATC add on? 

just because proatc was for make "flighplans" and for ATC

Just now, srcooke said:

Post the issue on the ProATC support forum where your problem may be addressed.

yes thanks i have all ready send an email to proatc support

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Hy Kyle. 

Proatcx does a good job of importing flight plans in to pmdg planes. Use it all the time with no problems.

As for the ops question putting the plan as 

Fool/heck is not the right way it should be foolheck no slash.

And if that does not help you need to ask in proatc forum as this is not a pmdg problem. 

Regards ted kiser 

Ps you need to ask in there forums sending email will not help

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Bad spelling

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1 hour ago, Eugenio Lo Cicero said:

you should recomended a good ATC add on? 

just because proatc was for make "flighplans" and for ATC

I'm assuming ProATC was made to give you ATC, and because the default flight plan function in the sim doesn't include support for SID/STAR, it includes a tool to work around that. It isn't really a flight planning tool, itself.

I don't use ATC add-ons. There's a reason ATC is still provided by humans in the real world: computers are awful at it.

1 hour ago, frieone said:

Proatcx does a good job of importing flight plans in to pmdg planes. Us it all the time with no problems.

Great. Then I'd ask that you two discuss further, since you both use the tool, and ProATC isn't a tool I use, or am familiar with.

 

 

 

Either way, this isn't a PMDG issue. The format is out there, and is known. If some tool is not properly formatting a plan, and is causing it to not show up/load, then that's something to discuss with that dev to sort out (either fixing their code, or helping you understand their process/requirements/etc).

I'm simply trying to get people to a point where things will work for sure: export a flight plan from a known/proven source for both ProATC and PMDG.

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Hi guys!

As Kyle suggested, use Simbrief( very professional like) with the Simbrief downloader available you can import your flightplan at the exact format for your differents addons(PMDG, QW, CaptainSim, Aerosoft etc...)then if you use ProATC as I do, edit fligtplan with the route of Simbrief (without SID ans STARS) and that's it! Works super fine for my 777✌️

Best regards

Pat

 

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I use Pro Atc and PMDG all the time and have no issue, just go to the options tab and ensure the PMDG flightplans are being directed tot he right folder in P3D.

Alternatively I copy and paste the plan into simbrief and then download the plan from there

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As noted above, you should use the ProATC forum for requests like this.

Also, in addition to using the "/" symbol, I have no idea how you think you are exporting a PMDG route.  The Export options are FSX (xml), FSX/FS9 (txt), ICAO, Squawkbox and FSINN.  

ProATC does SAVE PMDG slight situations including the flightplan in the FMC once the flight is started to protect against crashes etc but it does not EXPORT them in advance.

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5 hours ago, ailchim said:

As noted above, you should use the ProATC forum for requests like this.

Also, in addition to using the "/" symbol, I have no idea how you think you are exporting a PMDG route.  The Export options are FSX (xml), FSX/FS9 (txt), ICAO, Squawkbox and FSINN.  

ProATC does SAVE PMDG slight situations including the flightplan in the FMC once the flight is started to protect against crashes etc but it does not EXPORT them in advance.

you are right in fact when I go only to load the flight in the folder of flight plans I do not see it but once started appears and then disappear once the simulation is closed

in any case I made a flight loading the flight plan by siembrief after I tried again the same flight with proatc and this time my flight was imported correctly

anyway I was already registered on siembrief I used it before proatc and I agree that it is definitely better even having the subscription navigraph with the updated AIRAC

maybe after trying with siembrief proatc has recognized again the correct destination folder where to export the flight plans for pmdg 737

 

i have to say thanks to all, I'm really happy to have joined in this forum full of competent and helpful people 😄

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Pro ATC Flight Plans are not very good. Use Simbrief as others have suggested. 

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Or try this free resource which will find and export flightplans in many formats.  It also outputs a text string which can be imported into ProATC. 

http://onlineflightplanner.org/

It's not perfect in that sometimes it doesn't tie up with current SIDS and STARS but I'd say it works 90% of the time.

 

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Hi,

I experience a similar problem. After the latest 737 update (1.20.8869) I'm unable to import any flightplan that has been generated by ProATC/X. I've been using ProATC/X for many years without any problem and since this issue showed up with the latest PMDG update I suppose it's caused by it.
Changing the flight planner is not en option if I want to use ATC provided by ProATC/X.

If there is no quick way to fix it, how can I downgrade the 737 to the previous version which worked absolutely fine for me?

Regards,

Klaus Wiegel

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13 hours ago, skogstroll said:

Hi,

I experience a similar problem. After the latest 737 update (1.20.8869) I'm unable to import any flightplan that has been generated by ProATC/X. I've been using ProATC/X for many years without any problem and since this issue showed up with the latest PMDG update I suppose it's caused by it.
Changing the flight planner is not en option if I want to use ATC provided by ProATC/X.

If there is no quick way to fix it, how can I downgrade the 737 to the previous version which worked absolutely fine for me?

Regards,

Klaus Wiegel

As was already stated, use Simbrief to make your flight plan, then the simbrief downloader will install it directly in to the NGX FMC. Removing any sid or star from the generated Simbrief plan, you can then copy and paste it into Pro ATC X. Pro ATC is not a good flight plan generator. 

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It is true that PATC plans are not so good. That's why I always edited them (with data data from simbrief or related). What I really miss now, is the very easy procedure to load the route after PATC flight clearance.

 

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I'm having a similar issue with PATC and PMDG  since the NGX update. I always use routes from FlightAware and inport them into PFPX and PATC. After calling clearance the flight plan is imported into the correct location, but the FMC will not open it or even register it. It's there, I can see it. KSLCKDEN, but it doesn't open it. It's obviously an issue with PATC because I can open my plans made in PFPX.

I've posted this on the PATC forum also.

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Hello,

I don't use any flightplanning tool except the Routefinder. At the end I'm always typing the route manually into the FMC. After that I'm saving my flight so that I can use it the next time. But at this point I also got the error message (something like... starting airport in .rte cannot be found). I've tried it with old saved routes and even with new created ones. The result is always the same. This is happening after the last update of the ngx.

Regards,

 

André Heilscher

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Sorry guys, but the point is not to find out which route planning tool is the best. The point is that that there is a lot of ProATC users out there that want to continue using it (yes, it's convenient!) and who can't do this anymore since the import simply stopped working with the latest 737 update. (By the way - even the 777 has been updated and the import still works fine.) The only solution seems to be a rollback and when browsing this forum I get the impression that there are lots of users who plan to do just that.

So far all the updates that I installed have been improvements (some pretty significant!) but just the latest one might not have been the best one ever.

Regards,

Klaus

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50 minutes ago, skogstroll said:

So far all the updates that I installed have been improvements (some pretty significant!) but just the latest one might not have been the best one ever.

Have you tried on the latest update (that went out a day or two ago)?

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Installed the latest PMDG updates for the NGX, version 1.20.8885. All seems alright with the world once again.

Thank you all.

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On 8/1/2018 at 6:44 PM, scandinavian13 said:

Have you tried on the latest update (that went out a day or two ago)?

Now I have. And it works again! Great, thank you guys!

Regards,

Klaus

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