August 20, 20187 yr 52 minutes ago, Paraffin said: Don't know about P3D or AFS2, but SLI isn't supported in X-Plane, due to some basic incompatibility with the rendering engine. According to the recent dev Q&A report over in the XP forum -- "SLI/Crossfire: Unlikely to ever be supported as it's just a waste of time; not very effective; hard to get it working." I'm seeing diminishing interest in SLI/Crossfire in the gaming forums too. The future seems to be tilting towards these single card monsters, primarily due to not enough support on the software side from game and sim devs. I'm on the fence about these new 20xx cards. I'm running a GTX 970 now, and was planning on upgrading to a 1080 or 1080i with an expected price drop post-currency mining, and with the new series coming out. Now I don't know. The regular 2080's price is tempting, and the demos just released of real-time ray tracing in some upcoming games is pretty amazing. Never thought that would happen at the consumer level in my lifetime. Need to read some reviews on how they perform in the sims though. I'm not quite crazy enough to pay the money just for flashy game graphics, if it isn't a significant jump in X-Plane over a 1080 or 1080ti. At Laminar's rate of development, I wouldn't normally expect ray-tracing to show up for a while. Then again, with the pending move to Vulkan, they might surprise us if integration is easy. I will upgrade when either Xplane or P3D utilizes the new Ray tech. By the time that happens, we will probably looking at XP12, P3Dv5 and the RTX-2180! Right now XP is more CPU bound on my setup. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX 4080S, Ram - 32GB, 32" 4K Monitor, WIN 11. Eric Escobar
August 20, 20187 yr I will what till the dust settles but I will stick with 2080, I only run one 4k monitor 2080ti for me would be overkill and if the wife found out id be road kill.😆 Edited August 20, 20187 yr by rjfry Raymond Fry.
August 21, 20187 yr Some ray tracing samples: This is all being done real time ... now apply this to a flight simulator environment and think very fast application of light in a much more realistic environment. I jumped at this technology because it really is a game changer type of technology regardless of how long it takes to be implemented in any current Flight Simulator platform. Cheers, Rob.
August 21, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, rjfry said: I will what till the dust settles but I will stick with 2080, I only run one 4k monitor 2080ti for me would be overkill and if the wife found out id be road kill.😆 from what I can tell even a 2070 would be awesome How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
August 21, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Rob Ainscough said: Some ray tracing samples: (snip) This is all being done real time ... now apply this to a flight simulator environment and think very fast application of light in a much more realistic environment. I jumped at this technology because it really is a game changer type of technology regardless of how long it takes to be implemented in any current Flight Simulator platform. A small caveat about ray tracing -- I dug a little deeper into some forum posts (didn't watch the full presentation), and it looks like this is actually "hybrid ray tracing," because the 2080ti isn't actually beefy enough for 100% real time ray tracing. Apparently the "hybrid" shown in those game clips is standard raster-based graphics with an overlay of ray-tracing where it counts, for things like reflections on surfaces. That's still extremely impressive as a major step forward, and I can't wait to see it supported in flight sims. Just not quite as mind-blowing as I first thought, with a consumer-affordable "ray tracing" card. Anyway, kudos for being on the bleeding edge, and I'm looking forward to what you find with these beasts running a flight sim! X-Plane and Microsoft Flight Simulator on Windows 10 i7 6700 4.0 GHz, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1660 ti, 1920x1200 monitor
August 21, 20187 yr No HDMI 2.1, bummer! AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX 4080S, Ram - 32GB, 32" 4K Monitor, WIN 11. Eric Escobar
August 21, 20187 yr 49 minutes ago, strider1 said: No HDMI 2.1, bummer! Yeah I saw that, in order to get 8K have to use DisplayPort 1.4 with DSC which isn’t great. Which suggest there will be a Titan version out with 16GB VRAM and HDMI 2.1
August 21, 20187 yr 57 minutes ago, Rob Ainscough said: Yeah I saw that, in order to get 8K have to use DisplayPort 1.4 with DSC which isn’t great. Which suggest there will be a Titan version out with 16GB VRAM and HDMI 2.1 And you need to use two DP1.4 cables. I've been drooling over that Dell 8K monitor! I Philipps is supposed to release an 8K/HDR monitor this year! I do a little photography so would love to see my 42MP photos in their full glory! HDMI 2.0 doesn't support VRR, I wonder if Nvidia left 2.1 out because of that reason. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX 4080S, Ram - 32GB, 32" 4K Monitor, WIN 11. Eric Escobar
August 21, 20187 yr Interesting spin from Jay ... claims SLI is back and now "the focus"? So the 2070 is supposed to be faster than TitanXP? And the 2080Ti from nVidia's site are "binned" components?? That new news to me, never thought that was the case? And a single 2080Ti is faster than nVidia's DGX server ($68,000)? Jay certainly had some interesting things to say. Cheers, Rob.
August 21, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said: So the 2070 is supposed to be faster than TitanXP? Yep, Jensen Huang said that during the presentation. I remember that cause I was chattting with a friend and we both said offensive WHAT? at that very precise moment. Cheers Carlos Edited August 21, 20187 yr by chass32 NLR Motion Platform V3, Intel Core i9-9900K OC @ 5Ghz, Gigabyte Gaming OC 11GB RTX 2080ti, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra. Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing LED RGB 360. Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3000 PC4-24000 32GB 4x8GB CL15. Lexar Professional NM700 M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe 1TB SSD. Toughpower iRGB Plus 80 Plus Platinum 850W Full Modular. Thermaltake View32 TG USB 3.0 RGB. Oculus Rift S. Qled Samsung 65Q7FN.
August 21, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, strider1 said: No HDMI 2.1, bummer! Reading the specs on scan UK supplier MSI RTX 2080 HDMI 2.0b max res 7680x4320 @ 60hrz (8K UHD) £814.99 MSI RTX 2080ti £1,159.99 both sporting 3 TRI-FROZR FANS which I like as I have the 1060 in other desktop and 1080 in my flight PC. Edited August 21, 20187 yr by rjfry Raymond Fry.
August 21, 20187 yr Newegg has the prices for the ASUS RTX 2080 ($839-869 US) and the RTX 2080ti ($1209 US). Everything is is sold out except the cheaper 2080, which ATM can still be pre-ordered.
August 21, 20187 yr Check out the vid on YouTube Gamers Nexus were der8auer dismantles a RTX 2080ti and the die size and wonders what the power pull will be if you OC it. Raymond Fry.
August 21, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, rjfry said: Reading the specs on scan UK supplier MSI RTX 2080 HDMI 2.0b max res 7680x4320 @ 60hrz HDMI 2.0b doesn't support that? Spec: https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/ HDMI 2.1 does Spec: https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_1/index.aspx If the 2070 does indeed out perform the TitanXP, that will open a much bigger door ... I hope it turns out accurate. Cheers, Rob.
August 22, 20187 yr A lot of information posted the last days. I wonder how my 1080's in SLI compare for example to one 2080TI in 4K. For the newer games like BF V and Tomb Raider it's probably better because of the amount of Cuda-Cores and faster memory speed/bandwith but how will that be compared to older games and games without RTX tech? (Those clips looks amazing). I'll will wait a few months and see how this will unfold. Maikel van der Heijden
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